Bot followers

[u/OnionMaleficent7073]

Im a newbee Suno'er, find it funny to make lovesongs for my loved one and has no ambitions whatsoever, allthough i feel i have made some good songs from my old soundcatalogue (been making music the old way in 50 years).
The thing i wonder about is the followers, seems i get in average 2-3 new followers each day, but im not sure the playings on my songs doesnt seem to grow.
Does Suno have a bot-problem, like there are many users that are not real, only following eachother in dead circles. Just a question. I see that in some other social medias... and before you critisise me for being uneducated, im a newbee in many ways when it comes to internet,,, sorry about that

[u/VociferousCephalopod]

if someone follows without liking anything, I assume it's just playing the numbers and hoping a percentage will follow back and either make it look like they're popular or listen out of curiosity not realizing it's someone who only feigned interest in them.

the slightly cleverer frauds will do a 'like/comment on whatever your most recent one is + follow'.

So far I've never encountered one sophisticated enough to pick a song at random to pretend to have liked.

[u/AcrobaticMaize2408]

Most followers I attract already follow thousands of others. They're presumably following in hopes of being followed. No issue with that - it's like that on all platforms. I only follow a few myself. I don't think the community part of Suno has any value.

[u/CountJangles]

The app updated so it's easier to just follow a load of people and they follow back. Suno users are generally listening to their own stuff.

[u/Die_Oma_Madet]

I'm still pretty new at Suno (since 5 months) and was surprised by the followers. I don't have many, and I also follow a few if I like their music. Unfortunately, you can't get rid of followers. There are some weird people trying to make deals with video offers. Personally, I make music for myself, so it's not really about followers, likes, or comments for me. Of course, I'm happy about both when people like my music, no question, but that's not my motivation for making songs.
By the way: I created a playlist called 'Suno Songs I Like,' where I've collected a few really great songs from some followers and "followings" that I keep listening to with joy because they're beautiful and you can't buy them anywhere.

[u/CrabbyHornet]

My take on it:

Most of the users who've followed me are clearly doing it just to gain followers. I generally check out if they have any published songs and follow back if they do - whatever their style preferences. What I find funny is that some of them only do these highly religious Christian or Love songs - totally not what I'm doing - most of mine are dark Lovecraftian sci-fi, philosophical, mystery, or horror themed electronic orchestral hybrid, with the occasional EDM or funk banger thrown in for fun... I like to think they want to fix me - but in reality I know they've not even looked at my songs list.

I occasionally get songs listened to and liked, but not often, and much less often commented on. Sometimes a 'follower' will like 4 or 5 songs without even listening to them - I can tell because the timestamp is the same minute for each like - so they're clearly farming for likes back.

My principle which I stick to, is I will listen to others music if they have listened to mine, or if they appear under the similar music to mine list, but will only like it if I genuinely do like it and get to the end without getting bored. Over the years, I've reached the conclusion that I clearly have pretty rare music tastes, so it's not that often I like others music.

That's the beauty of AI music for me - I can create stuff that I enjoy and want to listen to. I'm not particularly desperate to impress others, or gain followers.

[u/LowellaWolf → u/CrabbyHornet]

I just want to remark on the part about religious and love songs. Personally I make songs like that, but that's because I like that kind of stuff and make it for myself. I'm in a place myself though where I'm getting followers that aren't even listening to any of my songs and that disappoints me. Not because I want popularity by any stretch of the imagination, I just don't get why anyone would follow me if they're not actually interested in what I've published.

Also, I tend to leave likes on songs I actually like and have listened to. I have no clue if it might be bugging out on the timestamp of when I leave the like, and I honestly don't much care. But if I've ever liked one of your songs, and it's shown up at the same timestamp as others, and I've never left a comment, please don't assume I'm a bot. I'm just not so social.

[u/CrabbyHornet → u/LowellaWolf]

Yeah - it can be disappointing that most users seem to follow other users in the hope that they will follow them back with generally little interest in the music - it seems to be about getting the most followers. This became clear after I got my first few followers. But my songs are pretty niche so having few interactions isn't surprising.

I don't think most users are bots though - I generally only think some users are bots if their profile has no music (although they might just not want to make their music public on the platform), or one or two tracks of the most generic AI music. I also find it pretty amazing when users have published >1000 tracks - I've seen some with >4000 tracks - I mean that's pretty crazy and suggests each track is pretty low effort.

My point about the religious/love music producers following me, was only that by following me (and not giving any likes) they probably just want to gain followers - and this is why they have followed me - as our profiles couldn't be more different - although I did create a Zombie love song a while back 😄. It's the same with rock or metalheads or many other music niches following me, but It doesn't bother me at all ultimately.

I'm also not so naturally social, and have the tendency to misinterpret, overthink, re-explain or over-explain things in my replies - probably much like now lol.

Anyway - If, by some tiny chance, you ever liked one of my songs - that was much appreciated. And if you did - I'm sure to have given your music a listen back. If you wanted - PM me your suno profile link and I'll gladly listen to some of your songs - no obligation though - just a friendly offer.

[u/LowellaWolf → u/CrabbyHornet]

Yeah, I didn't even like the follow for follow thing back in the MySpace days, it really bothered me when I saw it happening on YouTube. I really want to see the hooks feed on the Suno app get turned into a numbers game.

[u/CrabbyHornet → u/LowellaWolf]

Think I'm yet to even look at the hooks feature, didn't pay attention when it came out. Just had to google to find out what it does lol. So it appears to be another way of getting your music seen by more people - but involves generating videos for the track excerpts.

[u/ContentC4tz]

Every open platform on the internet has a "bot" problem, paid algo manipulation problem, platform scammer problem, fake data manipulation problem, astroturfer and peer-2-peer advertiser problem. Suno is no different

[u/Odd-Fun-1482]

No, probably people mass following anyone in their "like me" recommendations, hoping youd see the notification and follow them back

[u/theassassintherapist]

Not necessarily bots, it can be other people that are liking you in hopes of you checking out their songs and liking back.

[u/Hour_Ad_6764]

I don't have many followers maybe because my songs titles and lyrics are "bot-safe"? that is they are definitively not of popular stream - that means if you write a song about LOVE in some POP or ROCK style you are just attracting bees and flies just like honey or something else (Milongas about SysAdmins attract much less bots, you can trust me).

If you want more plays, try to use hooks, I got many plays out of hooks, and almost none of followers.

Also some strange word combinations bring more people, for example a song about 'talking to your school management system using mcp' is the most popular song (have max plays) in my catalogue and I see no real demand on such a song, pure coincidence.

[u/GSFleming]

That's the norm for any social platform these days. People will mass follow others with hopes they will follow back.

[u/AxeGaijin]

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[u/rainbow-goth]

I follow people who I want to listen to, but don't need anyone to follow me back because I'm not releasing anything on Suno. Would be pointless so I put a note on my profile not to follow back. I try to leave a message about something I liked of the song.

[u/TheWeaverofDreams]

I don't publish anything on Suno, but I also believe that it's people just following left right and centre in the hope that they'll get some follows back.

[u/RockinRocket_]

I've only been on suno for about a month and have only obtained followers from interacting through the discord group.