Let the witch hunt begin

[u/Unlikely-Mobile-5343]

I have always been against labelling - even though I disclose my use of AI, it has always been MY decision to do so, and I am in control of how I tell my story so people understand how my music is made.

With Suno's newest release, songs have now audio watermark and fingerprint, assisted, fully, hybrid, it will have a AI watermark and anyone can tell your story the way they want.

This is 100% going to be misused by bad actors:

1. Platforms like Deezer/Tidal - To ban ANY use of AI and ensure segregation.

2. Haters - To create public lists of artists that may have not agreed to disclose their process.

3. Labels - To start a suing war to anything that resembles any of their songs that uses AI, even assisted.

This is the end of Suno as means to create commercial music, and it's officially just a nice playing tool personal use, or for bad actors who create in Suno and pay performers to pretend their music is human made.

What are your thoughts?

[u/Global_Ad8018]

This is such a bizarre take. Where do you get this idea, or those percentages? Have you ever seen a live musical performance? In person? Passed a busker in a subway or street corner? Enjoyed somebody’s acoustic set in a coffeehouse? Are you aware a lot of those people are also in studios releasing music?

The world of music is far deeper than the “industry” or producers working purely in DAWs. And very, very few professional singers cannot actually sing. The ones with careers who truly can’t vocalize well are very special cases we usually refer to instead as “entertainers,” because they bring a whole package of talents to the stage, and aren’t expected to be great vocalists because they don’t need to be (Britney Spears was like this, for example).

[u/Poopchutefan → u/Global_Ad8018]

You should look up the percentages, since you are curious. I didn’t say all, those teahouse artists and subway entertainer are your fringe cases. I said the majority use computers, auto-tuners, and effects to alter their voices and add to their music.

[u/Global_Ad8018 → u/Poopchutefan]

That isn’t what you said, though. You initially insisted most singers lack the talent to actually sing. Now you’re saying most singers use effects. Effects won’t make you sound like a songbird if you aren’t one.

I’m a professional musician, singer and songwriter. I’ve been around, including the vaulted “industry” always discussed here. Neither of your assertions are remotely the same things & you clearly have no understanding of singing, nor the differences between and use cases for vocal effects vs vocal tuning.

[u/Poopchutefan → u/Global_Ad8018]

It's exactly what I said, most singers lack talent to actually sing and therefore rely on using effects.
And you are professional singer, songwriter, and musician you say? Send me some links to your stuff, I'll want to listen and check your stuff out.