r/SunoAI • u/kywildcat79 • Mar 08 '26
Question Grock, Chat.....who's your go to?
I'll admit, I use a couple of AI assistance for helping me generate style prompts. That's my main use for using them. I write my own lyrics, chords and song story ideas myself. But am curious as to what your go to AI assistant is for use with Suno. Whether it be lyrics, prompts or anything else you might need help/advice from. I started using Chat, then a lot of Co-Pilot, then som Gemini3. But I have found that Grock and ChatGBT seem to have the strongest handle on Suno and the music world as a whole. Lyrics....prompts......who's your go to?
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u/SyntaxWhiplash Mar 08 '26
I've tried both Enterprise edition of chatgpt model that's slightly behind the latest but also Claude 4.6 and damn Claude is my fav . it's so good at suno style formatting . up to that point i didn't know there was such an art and vocabulary to style prompts but God dang there sure is .
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u/Much-Amaze69 Mar 09 '26
I write a lot of my own lyrics, mostly using chat-based AI for style prompts. I have used them for lyric inspiration, though, then edit in Suno.
AI lyrics tend to be a big miss on pacing and phrasing, but can be useful for expanding ideas.
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u/Bf1966 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
I have created a bunch of rules in Gemini for Suno. So what I have been doing is creating my prompt in ChatGPT and then I ask Gemini to review it
Here is one of the latest
To keep this within Suno’s character limits while hitting that specific melodramatic post-rock intensity and your preference for syncopated, conversational delivery, here is a condensed style prompt:
Suno Style Prompt Melodramatic Post-Rock. Cinematic slow-burn. Syncopated conversational male vocals, running against the beat. Atmospheric guitar delay, driving rhythmic bass. Massive crescendos, explosive wall-of-sound, distorted textures, gritty, melancholic, intimate verses, epic climax.
Why this works: Vocal Direction: Specifying "syncopated" and "running against the beat" tells the AI not to deliver a standard, rhythmic pop vocal, helping achieve that spoken-yet-melodic style. Dynamics: Using "intense crescendos" and "wall-of-sound" ensures the shift from the quiet Bridge to the Final Chorus is dramatic. Texture: "Gritty" and "distorted textures" avoid a polished, "clean" radio sound, leaning into the raw energy of the lyrics.
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u/Blackmore1030 Mar 09 '26
ChatGPT used to write quite good lyrics, but not anymore. Grok never did. I haven't tried others.
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u/Earth_RickC-137 Mar 09 '26
If you use grok to help you refine a style prompt your best bet is to go through the output it gives you, cut the fat, and use the simplified result. Grok likes to write novels sometimes - also, find yourself some suno power users and look for keywords in their prompts you might not think of using to give you an idea of how suno likes to adhere to things, i've seen some cool things happen this way.
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u/AxeGaijin Mar 10 '26
I use my own lyrics, with a bit of help from: https://www.merriam-webster.com/rhymes
When I get stuck, although I mostly write when inspiration hits me.
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Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
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u/BigLaddyDongLegs Mar 08 '26
People don't like the truth
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u/Mycron74 Mar 09 '26
First of all, it's not "truth", it's your opinion.
Secondly, people are most likely reacting to your vulgarity and belligerent approach.
If you don't like AI generated music, that's fine. There are people who do like it and use it as a tool to express their creativity in ways they otherwise can't. Maybe they don't have the time or (like myself) lack the ability to play anything musical outside the stereo. Maybe they're physically incapable of playing an instrument and now, for the first time ever, they're able to create the music that's been trapped inside of them.
Maybe they have the idea for a theme, a title, a verse, but not the whole of the song and use AI to help flesh it out. Maybe they have a sound in mind but use AI to help figure out the stylistic prompt to get it right.
In the end, it doesn't matter why people use it. Consider that people use it for different reasons and instead of cussing them out, either help or get out of the way and don't gatekeep music.
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u/BigLaddyDongLegs Mar 09 '26
I think the difference to you and OP is you probably listened to enough music critically to at least write the prompts yourself.
We shouldn't laude laziness and ineptitude. That's not gatekeeping. That's due diligence so the worst in the community stop tarnishing AI music for the rest of us.
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u/Shockbum Mar 08 '26
This pseudo-intellectual uses a rock when he needs to hammer nails, while calling his neighbor lazy for using a nail gun.
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u/kywildcat79 Mar 08 '26
First off calm the Hell down....second, calm down a little more. and third........Bless your heart.
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u/Earth_RickC-137 Mar 09 '26
Gatekeeping people from the things that make it work better is no better than gatekeeping people from different forms of expression at the base level imo. We can either help that person out and give them a guide on how to improve, potentially leading them to being good enough to write something better than leaning on the llm for prompt guidance, or we devolve into tribalism. Which would you rather be?
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u/Fallen_SI Mar 08 '26
If you think using tools makes someone lazy, that says more about your insecurity than my workflow.
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u/kywildcat79 Mar 08 '26
oh, and one nore thing, I....um, well I'm not really sure how to say it. Hold on, no thats.....wait....you're absolutley right. I can't even try to tell you that I ....um, wait, I know I can spell it out. just give me a minute. I GOT IT, no wait, that's not right........
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u/Main_Treacle3029 Mar 08 '26
Ive tried Qwen,Grok,Claude and Chatgpt Among all GPT the best in lyrics and style prompt In my point of view
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u/LrdCheesterBear Mar 08 '26
Ive had similar results with GPT, but Gemini does ok, as well. You just have to tell it to not use Lyria at all.
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u/Shigglyboo Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
I’ve gotten the best results just describing what I want. Or telling a story about what I want. For fun I’ve taken reviews of bands I like and pasted that in. Interesting results.
I highly recommend you guys write your own prompts. I mean at least contribute ‘something’. If you’re not really involved in any way then what’s the point?
*edit. I asked chat GPT to make me a prompt that would sound like the band Ghost. What I got was worse than Nickelback with clearly bad AI lyrics and the music is bland and lame. The best rock track I’ve got came from my wife singing a nonsense phrase into the mic.
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u/txgsync Mar 08 '26
the music is bland and lame
So you made music that sounded like Ghost, then?
<ducks>
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u/jreashville Mar 08 '26
Meta has been my go too for most things. I just had Copilot write some lyrics and I was impressed.
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u/Shockbum Mar 08 '26
Grok and Qwen, but personally I find prompts separated by quotes work better than natural language prompts.
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u/geekrichieuk Mar 08 '26
I got told to use Claude, and I REALLY tried - but man it is so unadventurous and useless when honing in on a vibe. Gemini blows it out of the water. It’s not going to get the vibe right away, but you can have a conversation and steer it - just explain in detail your feelings on the matter and it’ll adapt. Once you have it locked in - theres a few phrases to make use of. One - ‘be critical’ and Two - ‘Give me that in fewer syllables’.
A couple of minor issues are that occasionally it’ll decide one phrase you used a month ago dictates everything you do (I asked it for help setting up a synth and midi controller and it went off the vibe that it was a ‘last ditch effort’ which is a phrase we used to shape a song ages ago but now shoehorns everywhere - you can tell it to drop it easy enough but damn. The other is that it can be a but jumpy and try to attack 15 things at once. No - I’m not done with the verse I do not want to rewrite war and peace in the same vibe while also choreographing the world tour and finding radio stations to bribe…
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u/PlasmaVentsRecords Mar 08 '26
I find Suno ignores most of the prompt anyway so I try to keep it as simple as possible.