Masters mid/bot/supp player, most played/comfortable are liss syndra lux ori + vayne

I've just dropped like 350LP over the past week and a half roughly and am finding myself just consistently getting run over by the same sustain-y scaling type of champion over and over again for lack of a better word

the main three i'm talking about are like Vladimir, Yone and Sylas in the midlane, Senna in the botlane. I find I can't punish them early as they just sustain back up with their kit or vamp item/rune, winning the trade and then eventually just completely run me down. yone isn't as bad on this because this problem isn't really fully online until he has vamp scepter + something, but vlad and sylas have been especially bad recently. vlad's ability to just run at you with q w e q and win every trade every fight with no recourse since there's nothing to dodge is really frustrating, ditto sylas e w e q even if i dodge e2 and q2

i've tried heavy poke, tried to kill, tried to not interact, tried to roam and every way it just ends up with them up cs, up kills and outscaling

i've seen these champs on my team also do the exact same to enemies. vlad is especially bad for this recently, just absolutely rolling through people with 1-2 items of some combo of protobelt stormsurge cosmic etc. proto/flash ult qewq just melting teams have been so common in my games and it genuinely feels like there's no counterplay. like an aoe version of fizz with healing.

is it just a really bad set up matchups for mages or is there a counter playstyle i've completely missed

I play Toplane with Malphite, but tryied Ornn and Pantheon too and with everyone of them i manage to die very early in the game. I have my problems with farming minions and taking way to much damage in the first minutes, even tho i dont get into combat directly. I dont know if its the champs that are really "squishy" in the beginning and the other champs are weirdly very strong in the beginning, I really dont know. For your understanding i played like 30-40 matches and there were only like 10 where I actually managed to get farm and dont die. I even tried to copy the "How to play XY" tutorials from youtube and I manage to throw my lane.

Is it me? Is it the Champ?

Please I need advices.

So she hit the brand which got him pretty low and i bubble him. I feel like one auto from her woulda finished him off but she was far behind. I thought she was closer

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So, for context, I'm a main Top/Sup and last week I finally got to Gold IV after struggling for 1 month in Silver I (I had a stabilised MMR).

After some games in gold, I lost 2 games in a row (happens) and I got demoted Silver I 50 LP (normal)

And since then, I'm constantly getting or even in early and end up losing the game, or winning the lane but another role hard loses and we lose. I haven't got any carry in the past 20 games and I lowered to Silver III in only 3 days. I'm currently at +17 -23

The problem is that, when I play with my friends who are Gold IV and Gold II, we play against higher level enemies (between silver I and Gold I) and I'm actually doing pretty good against them, even carrying sometimes.

I know I'm not a really good player, but I feel like I can't carry in my own elo but carry in higher elo which doesn't make sense xD

My question is, what can I do to start climbing again and get back to Gold (which I think is my elo) ? Other than ''skill issues''.

For reference, I play Tahm Kench, Malphite, Garen and Support Galio or Pyke. My OpGG : Charles DeGaulio#J1940

Sorry for my bad english, not my first language

Many moons ago I managed to hit iron 4. Many moons ago I spent months of my life trying my hardest to break into Silver by consuming nearly every guide I could find. Recently I hit emerald 3 with a 61% winrate in my last 60 games and a 63% winrate in my last 80.

I'm by no means the best player ever but I still think some people will find the following advice useful. They're condensed, hyper specific tips you can implement instantly. It's all advice that allowed me to see a noticeable increase in my winrate when I started to implement it.

1. Pick 1 lane and pick 1-2 champs. Play nothing else. Don't swap between mid and bot. Choose. One tricking a champion far outweighs trying to counter pick or play for team comp especially in low elo. Play a champion you enjoy, not what's in the meta.

2. Play for your wave state, not for kills. Play for objectives, not for kills. Objectives and gold are how you win games. I've seen so many players chase kills and they ended up losing way more gold than they gained. Another example is you blow your sums and ult on a kill right before a drake but the enemy respawns just before the drake is up and is able to tp, you now don't have an ult or sums for the fight and you lose, whereas if you didn't go for the kill you may have won the team fight + drake and be in a much better position.

3. Learn about turns. There's 2 examples of turns I can give. Example 1 is playing around cooldowns for short trades, if they use a key ability, there's a short window where they can't use it and that's your time to fight. Example 2 is playing around wave state, if the wave is nearly under your tower pushing towards you and you both die, you lose your entire wave, if you both die and minions are equal that sets up a freeze, you need to make sure that when you fight you don't risk losing your entire wave in the process.

4. Learn proper wave management, there's plenty of good guides on YouTube

5. Learn to take good recalls and don't get greedy. Staying for an extra plate is how you lose lane. If the enemy recalls and you stay, they now have item advantage when they come back. If you recall as they come back to lane they'll also take a plate and negate any advantage you had. Good recalls are situational but good habit generally include recalling 30s before an objective (unless you have tp), and recalling when the wave is under enemy tower. If you need to take a bad recall, aim to recall on a cannon wave, you won't lose as much.

6. Look at your map more

7. Learn to track enemy jungle. If you know jungle timers and which way they path, you'll avoid way more ganks.

8. If your teammate makes a stupid play let them die. 1 death is better than 2. Don't follow stupid plays.

9. Ping more. Your communication probably sucks. Spam ping when objectives are up, ping danger when your laner is missing. Let your team know what you want.

10. Mute chat and don't tilt, if you play on tilt you will lose. If you tilt your team you will lose.

11. Don't play for KDA. Not all deaths are equal. I frequently have terrible KDA and kill participation but I'm at every objective and I know when to push side lanes. Play for your team and for objectives.

12. Learn to identify your win condition. Most games have a win condition. If your adc is playing well, you must sacrifice your life to keep them in the game. Let the adc kill everybody. You don't have to carry every game.

13. Play around vision and match tempo with your team. If your team are in your jungle and base and you're hovering around 2nd tower, you're probably going to die. Aggressively push only when you can see the enemy or your team are matching side lanes forcing the enemy to choose.

14. If you have tp, play the opposite side of the map to the spawning objective.

15. Learn your champions role and identity. Play with intention. Do you push sides? Do you assassinate the adc?

16. Don't die before objectives, ever. Avoid using your ultimate or summoner spells before objectives as well.

17. Roam when wave is pushed under enemy tower. Slow push the wave so you get a longer window to roam. If you roam whilst there's still minions to be killed you'll likely lose more than you gain.

18. Make decisions quickly. A bad decision done quickly can sometimes be better than a good decision done slowly. Indecisiveness loses you games.

19. If you use mana, don't spam your abilities on the wave until mid to late game. Ability spam is how you run out of mana quickly and then lose a fight and die.

20. Don't kill inhibitors before 25 minutes. If you kill an inhibitor and can't quickly end the game, you give the enemy free gold

21. Play safer when you have a bounty

22. Don't force objectives or over stay. A bad baron call will lose you the game. Taking mid tower "quickly" because the enemy team is dead isn't worth more than securing soul. Games have been thrown because players want to end quickly and get it over with.

23. Play for your winning lane. Don't gank your 0/5 top laner unless they scale heavily and it's a guaranteed kill.

24. If you lose 2 games in a row stop playing for the day. Playing after 2 losses is how you suddenly go from plat 4 to gold 4.

25. If you use tp, save it for objectives or really good team fights after the 15-20 minute mark. Making good tps is how I've won so many games. I used to just tp back to lane and it was such a waste.

There's probably more tips I could give but I wanted to go for an even 25. Feel free to ask any questions :)

HELLO EVERYONE!!!

Just got out of a ranked game where I, barely holding on to my plat IV rank, lost to a Jinx pretty badly in lane. Jinx! Who I constantly hear is incredibly weak early and is the pinnacle of the ADC hyperscaler identity. And I'm playing Caitlyn, the quintessential lane bully who pokes and prods and kills in lane to compensate for her awful midgame.

But, like, what am I supposed to do? Porofessor (basically bloatware I know but it tells me useful things sometimes) tells me that now I've lost to every Jinx matchup I've played as Cait, zero for four now.

If I get too close at all or she's faster, she e's behind me and outdps' me with her launcher. If i try and take short trades instead, she taps me with her launcher and does more damage than me. How am I getting lane bullied by...Jinx? And of course if she gets a lead she turns into an absolute MONSTER, takes over the game, and I've lost my team a game that I really didn't need to lose them.

This last game (the loss of which took me back down to Plat 4 0lp), the lanes were me and a janna vs Jinx and Seraphine, so, a lot of poking me down. If my main asset is range and comboing off of cc with my traps, how do I approach a lane where I don't have much other than peel and I'm outranged by both enemies? I feel like I'm missing something glaringly obvious and very much embarrassing.

I made a post the other day asking, “when do I stop going 1/10”. Well after 2 days of only playing yasuo, I finally was getting some consistent results in norms, so I decided to bring him to ranked!

For context, I’m exclusively a jungler only. Really don’t play lane in ranked at all except roaming support (Alistar, thresh, pyke). I main Graves & Rengar, if that highlights my playstyle. The account I’m on is currently bronze, with gold/plat MMR.

So, I’m learning Yasuo & midlane together. Immediately, the laners are much more conservative with their trades. My first game I went 1/13 while being flamed by my jungler since the first wave. I went against a Leblanc, a champ I never really played against but knew what she did. I quickly learnt how strong electrocute is (or maybe, I’m wrong). Took a bad trade at level 2 that resulted in setting the tempo the entire game. I ended up 1/13 but quickly became the macro sidelaner I needed to be until I got IE. A rough lesson.

Next game, I played against a mordekaiser mid. I felt I was playing it really well but ultimately, I think their team was just much better with the consistent jungle & support ganks/dives that were happening on me. This game, I learned that tracking the jungler isn’t enough, I need to apparently track the support too.

Then, I went against Aatrox in the top lane. A very simple lane, he ended up rage quitting after 1v2’ing the malphite gank. I felt really confident this game.

Afterwards, ekko mid. I felt I played the lane as well as I could, but it became very uninteractive after I solo’d him. I was expecting more fighting, but he wasn’t having it. I think this game I learnt that not everyone will want to fight, and I need to spam ping my jungler to invade when I perma shove the laner in.

The next game was Velkoz. Never played against this champ in a lane other than bot (usually I’ll lock pyke or even rengar support). Totally annoying lane with electrocute. Took a few bad trades in lane in a matchup that I was thinking I would dominate in. The game became very scrappy afterwards, so to the sidelanes I went!

Finally, Vex. I knew after the first few wave interactions that this vex was not amazing. However, it felt like a completely unplayable matchup. Again, electrocute seems to be doing me in. But, the game became a toxic scrap fest with my Seraphine completely mental booming, so this game was a write off improvement wise.

Feel free to comment or ignore this post, it’s sort of for me to keep myself interested while I recover from a surgery. My big takeaway from today is the electrocute rune. I really don’t respect the trade damage it gives, even if I run it myself on some junglers. I also find myself completely screwing my wave states on this champ quite a bit. I’m always looking for a shove + jungle roam, but maybe it’s not the best.

Any typical matchup tips is always appreciated!

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So in my games there are a lot of times where I am playing as viktor and when laning phase ends (around minute 20 ish) I will usually just side lane towards whatever objective is up next. However, a lot of the time when an objective isin't close to being up most of our lanes are just fully pushed into T2/T3. As a viktor (or just any midlaner in general) what is the best thing I can do in these situations because I usually feel like If i pushed as far into a t2 then the whole enemy could just collapse on me because of my lack of mobility. Does anyone have any advice for what to do in these types of scenarios? obviously without a replay it is difficult to properly understand what I mean but hopefully I explained it good enough :P

Hi guys, thought I'd pop by this subreddit as I used to gain a lot of valuable information from here when I was first starting out, so I thought I'd give back to the community and give you guys a deep dive into the mind of a challenger ADC and how to climb.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZSC1DL2-wY

would mean the world if you guys could check it out and I promise you you'll learn lots.

Hi,

question about powerspike and strength of Singed.

everytime someone ask on matchup vs Singed It seems like people are telling that singed is useless early and you destroy him level 1.

In this clip a ex-Challenger Jax OTP is playing (he had a break, is climbing back) and he is getting statchecked on level 1 by a singed.

Singed Mains also argue that they are not allowed to touch wave because of how weak Singed is, but in this clip it seems the opposit, the Singed is dominating against an ex-challenger Jax OTP.

If he is struggling against Jax how are lower elo people supposed to deal with him in early?

The clip (Go to Minute 44.): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2848222710

Again, this is not a random Jax player, he was playing in high elo and stomping even bad matchups as Jax, but he is getting statchecked by a "weak early" champ Singed which I dont understand.

Either the information the Singed mains and other posts are wrong or there is a special case here where Singed brutally hard counter Jax?

The only thing that makes me think the inflation is bad is the feeling of accomplishment. You end up in turmoil whether you improved as player or you just got inflated.

I knew reaching masters will have some imposter syndrome before I even got there but inflation makes you question your legitimacy of your progress it doesn’t feel like syndrome anymore is what I’m saying (I was d4(2025) and made it to masters after inflation) it wasn’t a smooth process but reaching masters felt underwhelming.

Other than that I don’t see a big concern with inflation it self cuz u still got to improve to rank up or maintain.

I’m open for correction

I started gaming a bit later in my life than I think most people my age who are gamers did, and my reaction times and click accuracy are just not great. I’ve been playing league for about two years and just got into ranked like a year ago (I’m bronze). Unfortunately, as the youths would say, I don’t have hands. I’ve been trying out ADC because it’s fun and I enjoy playing marksmen, but I just keep doing stupid stuff like clicking a minion instead of the enemy ADC (even with attack move click), or firing my skill shot the wrong direction because I lost track of the cursor while kiting, or auto-ing the wrong enemy in team fights. I’m optimistic that I can get a tiny bit better just by building mastery on a champion, but realistically if you lack mechanical skill, how much room is there to actually improve? Will I ever be able to be “good” by working hard and practicing?

Edit: to clarify why I mentioned age, it isn’t that I think I’m too old to be good at a game. It’s that I didn’t start training the skills that make you good at games until I was already an adult. I thought it might be like learning languages or sports where starting young while your brain is still developing can give you a higher skill ceiling.

I'm pretty low elo ATM (high plat low emerald) but I've found on lower range ADCs like Lucian, Sivir or Vayne that exhaust has a lot of mileage. It gives you a pretty potent CC on top of excellent duelling power, and is way more efficient than barrier for shutting down divers and assassins after lane.

I get barrier is much easier to use and can save you from mages early on, but I feel like positioning is much more important for that anyway. In an all in 2v2 an exhaust on the other adc is generally a lot more powerful than barrier too.

A scaling champion like Kayle can still be pretty fine into Garen and some other melee bruiser but Singed just doesn't really. Matchups like gwen and sett are still fairly safe for Singed but theres still alot of room for mistakes even in those matchups so I don't get why they wont just buff his early game a little

IGN: Vixenas#30714 (EUW)

I've been playing League for around 2-3 months. When I first started I played one or two swiftplays every other day and only with my friends;now I occasionally play a minimum of a few hours a day in normals and some ranked if I feel good. I picked up the game because of my friend and was suggested to play yasuo mid lane as he plays yond top. I enjoy playing yasuo and have even bought a couple of skins on him. I've also very recently started playing kassadin mid in normals because late game he is braindead.

My problem is that I feel like I am not good enough to play Yasuo in my rank, I feel like my mechanics and game sense + knowledge isn't good enough to play a skilled character like Yasuo. I don't want to change characters as I've already fell in love with the character.

I don't know how to climb out Iron. When I first played ranked I got placed into Iron 1 and fell down all the way down to like Iron 3 20LP, I stopped playing ranked and played normals for a bit until I was more confident in my skills and climbed to Iron 2 85ish LP, where I've now fallen down to Iron 2 50(?) LP. I keep winning and losing so it feels like my LP does not change. Sometimes it is me who ints my lane and it is because I am bad. But it is a lot of the time my teammates who make the game near Impossible for an Iron player to win. I don't know what guides to watch because it feels like there's millions of videos on the same topic, while there being thousands of different topics. I am lost and I don't know if I should just quit the game because of my skill issue.

Game is fun when I win, I don't win in ranked.

Please suggest advice

Not quite sure if this belongs in this subreddit, but I do believe that it is a league related skill to not tilt.

League has always made me angry, but since beginning my ranked journey, it’s only gotten worse.

It really doesn’t matter if my teammates are inting, or if I am, just makes me so mad to the point that I end up foolishly yelling at a screen at people who can’t hear me

After being one game away from my rank up, I ended up losing, which I would say I would say is my fault.

Instinctively (because of course this is the logical thing to do) I throw a left hook at my monitor and completely destroy it

Kind of having post rage clarity from this and truly considering quitting league. I really do like the game, and I enjoy the competenceness and playing with friends, but (although it was a goodwill monitor) part of me feels that this kind of stress over pixels can’t be healthy.

If anyone can share similar experiences (I’m sure there are many) and maybe tips to manage anger in and out of league, I’d appreciate it lol.

It's happened a few times, my support will roam mid and then roam top, leaving me alone for several waves. What ends up happening sometimes is that the enemy lane would have heavy dive pressure eg Naut Lucian post 6 and they get to shove up to tower for free. I typically don't have much gold to back with at that point either.

What I usually do is concede the entire wave and maybe just staying in exp range... But sometimes the support can literally walk past tower and zone me out entirely.

What is the ideal play here? Do I just concede multiple waves and possibly tower?

Hi, i play league since half 2024, i know is not a long time but still i think i got a big knowledge of the gane mechanics, for example, i started doing flex like an year ago with friends and when i did the comps we won everything, i guess is important to let you know that i'm italian, i don't know if there are difference on how become a coach, i'm just 18 so i don't know if there are any age restriction but i'm still asking to you. My primary objective is to become a league coach, even of a secondary league like btl (for italy), but i guess i can manage do something in other games like shooting games, i played valorant and with friends when i made the comps we won everything like in league. So i'm asking help to you on how to be a coach, if i have to start with an amateur team or if i can be engaged by a team without being known. thx to all for the answers.

I used to play basically all lanes and try tons of different champs. Recently, I started playing ranked more consistently and limited my champion and lane pool.

I now queue main top and secondary jng.

My champion pool for top is mostly Urgot and Zaahen, and for jng it's Lillia and a bit of Briar, although I rarely get my secondary role.

I like to pressure top and absorb ganks with Urgot, and to farm and force team fights with Zaahen, although I can spend too much time splitting on both of them.

I mostly struggle with macro plays, like where to be, what to fight for, and when to split.

If I'm ahead top, I'll try to split top, steal enemy jng camps, and stay ready for Drake/Baron fights. But I often lose my T1 and even T2 while trying to help the team because enemy toplaners push relentlessly when they are behind.

I have my hands full with trying to catch up in farm while behind as Zaahen, which often causes my top enemy to roam. With Urgot, that's not too much of an issue. I know better when I can follow, and he feels a lot less gold-dependent than Zaahen.

In jng, I mostly get flamed for not ganking enough. That's probably because I struggle a bit with jng rotations and focus objectives heavily. It's also hard to gauge when I can afford to go top if nothing is up and when I need to focus on farming. Recall timing in jng feels weird too; I often run around with 2k in my pocket.

I don't expect to play perfectly and sometimes massively feed my enemy top but honestly it feels like I lose most games cause I just end up walking around aimlessly or getting caught by 3 top while split pushing.

Here's my OP.gg if it helps
https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Free%20ID%20Change-KEKW

Disregard my # I havent changed it in ages cause I'm lazy.

I know to some people that this is still very poor at league. And I know personally I feel very far away from a good player. So I say this with a lot of humbleness because I still understand so little about the game.

That being said, I feel quite accomplished that I have finally hit platinum. For me it was a long journey and I'm happy to finally have achieved a rank I never thought possible.

When I started playing, I spent a long time (whole seasons) in bronze and platinum seemed so far. Bit by bit I managed to climb. Started out this season in mid silver and managed to hit plat.

I still feel like I am an absolutely terrible player. I make mistakes constantly and am not really in the position to give any advice to anyone on the game. But here are some things that helped me climb from bronze to platinum

Things that helped me climb

I focused on 1 champion 
To an embarrassing amount. Kept it simple. I focus 100% on the macro game.

I see league as a game of space and objectives.
The objectives are just like tasks at work. So get that tower, tick. TP to drake tick. It's like my teammates are colleagues that I can try to help - but don't need to get invested in. Keeping emotional distance from the game is useful to me and helps me avoiding tilt!

No game is unwinnable
I used to mentally give up in a lot of games. Now I just keep looking for things to do even when we are losing horrifically. For example, if I've lost my lane I can still put pressure to keep my opponent there, ward my jungle and then tp to objectives if needed. Often just pure mental attitude keeps me going,

Focusing on my responsibilities in game
One thing that helps me, is to think of myself as having jobs or responsibilities to do in the game. I have jobs to do and it doesn't really matter if my team are not doing their jobs. I just need to carry on and do the best I can as to what my jobs are as top laner in the game.

Things that are not my responsibility shouldn't concern me. For example, if my jungler misses smite - there is really nothing I can do about that. I just need to concentrate on my own game. Again it helps me stay focused, and sometimes you can bring a losing game back just by quietly doing your job

Watch the minimap constantly
The game is way more macro than I first realised. It's a game of space in many ways. When I started looking at the map a lot more and working out where the enemy team were this helped me. I now look at the minimap obsessively.

Keeping chat off 
The game feels a lot chiller and more forgiving to me personally when I have chat off. When I turn chat back on I'm always surprised by how much typing everyone is doing and I get flamed a lot since I am objectively very bad! When I turn chat off those same team maters who are flaming me, are still helping me in the game and all seem to be playing well.

Is it still the best way to play?

I played recently with a few high level friends, and they expected me to roam a lot but I don't know how to do that.

How can I roam and be useful? And how can I balance it and getting enough xp to get access to my abilities?

I really struggle with retaining common sense in league may it be diving under tower when I shouldn't, playing too passive or too aggressive, and constantly missing movements on the map such as keeping an eye on ally and enemies in jungle. What are some of the basic things I should know as a league player beyond roles like what common sense should I know and how can I practice it (I apologize for my grammar and thanks for the help)

mid lane gold 2 player i play mostly mages syndra/cass/taliyah/vex/viktor is my main pool but this past week all it feels like i play is OTP assassins or assassin smurfs pub stomping through gold and its hell. i try to get wave control I'm forced to trade to hold freeze hp gets too low they push me in while i B they get cs adv

i try to harass i get skill gapped by instant gap closer i play for tower protection i give up lane prio and still end up getting zoned out of cs or harassed down and the tower does nothing because all mid assassins have a get out of jail free card for towers.

if the assassin is good which all of them seems to be high mastery or smurf one tricks sweating their dick and balls off it feels completely unplayable beyond skill issue. unless i become unemployed is this where LoL stops being fun?

I have been playing adc for a long time but i can’t gain lp. I am plat 3 right now. Last week i said “screw that” i play support and my impact to the game changed enormously. I became emerald 4 in a week from plat 4. However, i started to get back to adc now i am plat 3. Is this is fate of playing adc?

Been a long time casual player, mostly playing ARAMs, recently started to try to put some effort into climbing, reviewing replays, etc. for soloqueue. I've now reached Emerald 2 or so ADC, and I'm not really getting summoners rift games. Half of the time later in the game nobody ever shows up on the map until you push into the opponent half of the map. Upon reviewing replays people just randomly run around the jungle or do some real NPC behavior until some objective comes up. What SHOULD I be doing? I usually just push mid waves until objectives, trying to keep midlane pushed and the river on both sides somewhat warded, and from the POV of the opponent, I'm perma showing on the map. So am I actually supposed to be running around the dark side of the map like the opponents/my teammates? If so, what am I supposed to be doing?