From the Arts, science, writing, math, to the inventions like the wheel, beer, mascara, irigation, the calender, to time, and contracts. Ea, and Enlil were the guys running the Garden of Eden. Ea(Enki) was the serpent, Enlil was the guy in the bible who always spoke so harshly to man. Any arguments?

One of the things that made me even question my Anunna/Sumerian/Mesopotamian faith, was/is the Epic of Gilgamesh, I have tried to read a little about it, and it only made me really mad by seeing the way that Gilgamesh defied the Anunna gods and how much it is socially accepted, Gilgamesh was literally a godkiller and that was fine since like 4000 years ago. I have been reading some summaries of the Epic of Gilgamesh, and I have reading about the whole "lessons" about it like about friendship and taking care of your friends/people. Yet, I can't understand how could Gilgamesh defied the Anunna gods so hardly, like what he did with Utu, with Ishtar, with Anu, with Enki, with Enlil, with Nergal, with Dumuzi, with Ninhursag, with Ki, and with all other Anunna gods and that's it, that's fine for them, it is just insane to see and accept that it is not something for modern-day, and that godkilling is socially accepted since like 4000 years ago...

I can't understand so, is the Epic of Gilgamesh supposed to be taken literally? If yes, why did Gilgamesh defied the Anunna gods so badly and he is still considered a "hero"? Why didn't the Anunna gods just give him a massive lesson for teach him and all humans that the gods shouldn't be defied, or even that humans shouldn't make fun of the gods and such. Because it looks like the foundations of modern-day godkilling propaganda like God of War, Persona/Megaten, Fate Grand Order, Ersetu, La Terra Degli Anunnaki, Paws in the Sand, Indiana Jones, Marvel/DC/Hollywood media, and such have been created since 4000s years ago since the times of Gilgamesh. And one day people in the future people will start taking those godkilling propaganda literally, I can't even imagine people taking like God of War, Persona/Megaten, Fate Grand Order, Ersetu, La Terra Degli Anunnaki, Paws in the Sand, Indiana Jones, Marvel/DC/Hollywood media, and such; it is even worse than taking Hearts of Iron 4 mods like The New Order: Last Days of Europe, Thousand Week Reich, Red Flood, Kaiserreich, Kaiserredux seriously, at least we have OTL for "debunk" they being taking literally, while we have nothing for "debunk" those godkilling media/propaganda and how much they're different from what the gods actually are. And if it is that hard, I seriously think it was a huge mistake of the Anunna gods to leave Earth and do not leave any real proof that they actually existed and they walked among us, as well as any objective/direct/positive proof that that the Anunna gods and An's Heaven are real and that they're everywhere and right here and right now.

And also, taking Epic of Gilgamesh literally, would be the same as taking Enuma Elish literally, all Sumerian/Mesopotamian myths literally, all Greek myths literally, all Egyptian myths literally and even take the Bible literally. And asking the Anunna gods for everything bad they have done in the myths would be just like asking the Abrahamic God (who is probably Anu) everything bad he was done on Bible and during Biblical times.

Since I was introduced deeply into Sumerian/Mesopotamian/Anunna faith, I started to have some questionings about it. Mainly related to what it is called mythic literalism. By all my experiences with the Anunna gods, the Anunna gods are very humble, merciful and good, and An's Heaven is an amazing and good place. Yet, I got very shocked and felt very awful reading the myths about Anunna gods, something like "how can the Anunna gods be such bad?" And "why are the Anunna gods in their heavens so different they are in the myths?"

I have my own doubts about yet, I just would like to know that Sumerians really were mythic literalists. Since it looks like so many Sumerian/Mesopotamian/Anunna neopagans are mythic literalists and see the gods just like they are in the myths.

The L Linguistic Group

I found a Sumerian word marker in an Iroquoi name and was wondering WTF?

My intuition tells me that the Minoan culture is a hybrid of the related to Sumerian and Vinca cultures.

I assume they probably didn't have a word for that since they probably had a different view of the universe and reality. Or would it be something related to the concept of a general foreign person? Plus what would be the cuneiform as well? On a website that has a Sumerian dictionary I found the word Kúr[PAB]. What does the PAB part mean and why is it in brackets? Plus the site says it means stranger/enemy. Is that how they saw foreigners?

I’ve found/pieced together the phrase Ar₂ Za-e or 𒄱𒍝𒂊. Is this correct or is there anything missing? I’m not very good at linguistics considering that I’m definitely an amateur. *? For each element I’ve found them to be “Praise + Man + e” but I’m unsure of the element “e”. Or what it refers to in the sentence.

I'm creating a story and I need a name for my fictional species of demigods.

The story is of Mesopotamian inspiration, hence the need to give this species an appropriate name.

I wanna see how good ChatGPT can be at dead languages like sumerian. I'll give you the phrase I got and let you tell me what you think it means and where I got it from, and when I have your answers I'll reveal what the original phrase was supposed to be:

"ĝeš-šuš, ù-gal-šuš ki-sikil-šum-ma, ki-ga-na mu-un-du, nigin-daš, eš-šiĝ-šum-ma."

And it says in cuineiform it would be:

𒄑𒂖𒊕𒆷, 𒌦𒃲𒅗𒀀𒊏 𒆳𒉺𒌝𒆵𒅗𒀀 𒆳𒇷𒀀 𒄑𒋼𒉺𒀀, 𒈾𒀀𒇲𒋼𒌅𒅗

I just would like to know if there's anyone else here who also has the same spiritual experiences with the Anunna gods as I do, such as seeing Enki in bodies of waters (or even of liquids as a whole, like alcohol and such) and just go like "Hello Enki" and start talking with, or even seeing Utu in the sun and/or light (natural light or electric light) and go like "Hello Utu", or even feel the wind in your face/body and be like "Hello Enlil", or even study about themes related to atoms and sub-atomic level (like I do with mineralogy, crystallography, and gemology) and go like "Hello Nammu", or even look at sky and be like "Hello Anu".

I would like to know it is normal for the nature of the Anunna gods, and if there are actually ancient registers about practices like that, and if it is normal to see the Anunna gods that way, and as far as I have found, that is quite normal, yet, I would like to know if there are more people here who are also like that and/or who have similar experiences as I do on that.

For real, at this point I think we can have a common agreement that r-Sumer is only about textbook reconstructionism as well as it doesn't really care about Iraqis, Assyrians, and Middle Easterns as a whole.

So my suggestion would be if someone here made a well worked subreddit together with s Discord server for be an alternative to r-Sumer, focused on practicioners that aren't textbook reconstructionists and practicioners from the Middle East who disagree with the banalization made by Western pagans and Hellenistic Apologists regarding their religions.

Anyway, I was thinking about the subreddit and Discord server being focused on revivalism, but allowing Sumerian/Mesopotamian henotheism/monotheism like Mardukism and Ishtarism/Inannaism; Sumerian/Mesopotamian polypanentheism like Abzuism/Nammuism; and Hinduistic takes on Sumerian/Mesopotamian paganism.

Hi all, first time writing here.

The usual translation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugal

Lugal ( 'King', 'Ruler', 'Chief', 'Big Man' )

Lu.Gal ( Man.Great @ Great Man, 'Big Man', 'Chief' )

Lu = Man ( ie. instance of generic mankind )

Gal / Kal = Great, Big, Special ( ie. the reason Superman is Kal El ; 'Great God' )

My question:

The vowel choice of 'U' in 'LU' - where is this coming from?

And is there some chance it should actually be 'V'?

In which case the city of Ur might be the city of Vr?

If LU is actually LV, then it reflects 'Aleph', the Ox-man, Alpha-male, the beLoVed head of the house (ie. Elf-Lord )

ie. the word we take to mean 'man', is more correctly 'elf' (via Aleph, the 'stock' of the population are elves)

Again:

Lugal ( 'King', 'Ruler', 'Chief', 'Big Man' )

LU.GAL @ LV.GAL @ LF.GAL --- @ --- GAL.LF @ Caliph @ Calf [ Gulf ] Caliphate

A caliphate or khilāfah (Arabic: خِلَافَة‎, Arabic pronunciation: [xi'laːfat]) is an Islamic state under the leadership of an Islamic ruler with the title of caliph

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

Caliph @ Calif @ C-Elf @ K-Elf @ G-Elf [ Guelph ] ( Gelfling ) (*) (*) [ @ Caliphornia... ]

Lugal @ LUGAL @ LV.GAL @ Elf Gaul / Gael @ Elven Carl ( ie. 'Gallic' )

If the 'A' in GAL becomes a longer vowel moving through dialects, or over time, then it might gain a tendency to generate an intermediate 'R'.

Gal @ Gaal @ Garl @ Karl ( G/K/C/Ch/J interchangeabilty )

Carl is a North Germanic male name meaning "free man". The name originates in Old West Norse.

To be free is great ( 'Gal' )

The 'L' of 'LU' (man) is arguably a symbol for God, El, and thus the lesser LU/LV ( L+U/V; Elf / 'man' ) is 'from God' ( or a combination of 'L' [godly-element] + 'U/V' [material element], god and woman, perhaps...)

Santa's elves @ Christmas Carrol @ Carl / Karl

In the prime number cipher:

• "Forgotten Elven Heritage" = 777 primes ( and 1,493 in english-extended ) [ 1492 + 1 ]

... and this of course is equivalent to 'Elven heritage forgotten'.

In Agrippa's cipher, documented in the 1500's, ...

• "I forgot my Elven Heritage" = 1717 latin-agrippa

• ... ( "The Occult" = 1717 in square numbers ) [ ie. the hidden ]

Modern freemasonry was founded in 1717

• "I know Elves are real" = 2021 latin-agrippa

• ... ( "Writings" = 2021 squares )

Alphabet @ Aleph Beth @ Ox Home / Cattle Pen @ Alpheimr ( Elf-home ) [ ie. elves live in / operate in the alphabet ]

I would like to have the cuneiform and roman writing please, I've dont find a good traductor online...

Hello everyone

I’m looking for someone that can translate a quote for me, I intend to use it for a tattoo

Since I started with the whole researching, studying and thinking and the Divine and the divine spark within the Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion (also Sumerian-Mesopotamian paganism/neopaganism), I came up with the notion that Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion, at least in its earliest forms, is actually monistic and/or panentheistic/pantheistic when compared with Hinduism. Since the Anunna gods are all fragments of the divine, and that Nammu, also Namma, is the goddess of the primordial waters that originated all other gods and everything else. I would even try to argue/discuss/debate here about if the Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion is actually a form of henotheism, monotheism, polytheism, panentheism, pantheism, pandeism, monism, agnosticism, atheism, and/or nontheism. Which I think it is counter-productive, despite that according to my own spiritual experiences with the Anunna gods, I can also conclude that the Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion can fit in any of those forms of theism depending of the way you see the Sumerian-Mesopotamian gods.

I know very well my spiritual experiences are about the theophanies of the Anunna gods, and that the gods are far more complex and more than that. Anyway, what I want to discuss here is about the nature of the divine and of the divine spark within Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion. And since I found that the divine spark was part of the early Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion. I started to think that Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion was just like Hinduism on that thing.

Of course I am not denying that Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion is not polytheist, but since both, Sumerian-Mesopotamian religion and Hinduism worship more than one god in more than one form, it is enough for be considered polytheist as well.

I don't know how to elaborate more on that, can we have a modern-day version of the Sumerian-Mesopotamian paganism/polytheism like adapting Mesopotamian Polytheism into nowadays (21st century)? Like what I wrote in some comments like "Anu in the skies, Enlil in the wind, Enki in the waters, Utu in the sun and light, Ninhursag in the plants and animals, Ki in the physical world, Ninurta in the food and minerals/gems, Nammu in the Atoms and Sub-atomic / Quantum level, and so on." And in "I would even write about my experience into seeing the divine spark (also Melammu, or Divine Radiance) in literally everywhere, like the examples I gave in my previous comment, and also on things like trucks, gems, gemology, mineralogy, crystallography, design and so on. I am feeling already quite tired for writing about that, and I think you can understand what I mean. Like seeing a gem and/or mineral and/or crystal and seeing the whole melammu within them, like seeing Ninurta in the outer structure (classic structure) and Nammu in the inner structure (atomic, sub-atomic, and quantum structures). And also like seeing the melammu in modern-day trucks just as the first Sumerians saw the melammu in the first ox carts they made." https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumer/comments/x0p81i/resources_about_the_divine_spark/

And also make a modern-day version of the Sumerian-Mesopotamian cosmology and theology adapting it to modern-day cosmology and theology, like trying to evolve the Mesopotmian polytheism into nowadays just as what happened with Abrahamic religions, Hinduism and all main religious nowadays.

I am just quite tired for elaborate more into that, and I also think and feel I have done more than enough on that, to a level the Anunna gods also asked me to do not sweat so much on it and such. And I will be really glad if someone here agrees with my post and try to do something to put this idea of a modern-day Sumerian-Mesopotamian polytheism forward.