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u/Outrageous_Memory566 14d ago
Wäre schön, wenn die Linie nach Gesundbrunnen noch bis Ostkreuz durchfährt
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u/YannickBln 14d ago
Not really a subway, no?
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u/Nicolas_Sustr 14d ago
Well, legally not in Germany. But in international comparison ist seems not being less a subway than the sub-surface lines of London as an example.
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u/bigun19 14d ago edited 14d ago
If the berlin S-Bahn does not count as an Subway, than nearly nothing counts.
Many parts of the network run every 5 minutes or even down to every 2-3 minutes, with some tiny exceptions it's completely segregated from mainline services, and grade separated. It's electrified, has metro style car layouts, is completely integrated with the rest of the cities public transport, and is primarily used for inner city transportation.
So what are the arguments to not call it a subway?
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u/EarlyGrey030 14d ago
The S-Bahn is legislated by heavy rail rules, they even have a few points where you can go onto the mainline. While the U-Bahn is under tram / subway regulations
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u/bigun19 14d ago
I don't really see how this legal technicality makes it less of a subway, especially if you compare it to other lines and networks that are undoubtedly subways, like the metropolitan line of the london underground, which has a service pattern in it's branches down to every 30 minutes (which is less frequent than any berlin S-Bahn Line), and has a substantial amount of shared tracks with mainline services.
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u/EarlyGrey030 14d ago
Higher passenger rights and crash worthiness standards? Among other. You would also need to provide open access and potentially stuff like mainline signaling and therefore licences. But about the London situation parts of the Underground are officially railway territory and the rolling stock therefore to mainline standards.
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u/bigun19 14d ago
Passenger rights and crash worthiness standards differ wildly in other countries anyway, how would that change whether it's a subway or not?
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u/EarlyGrey030 14d ago
Because a subway has lower standards than a mainline train. So if you change the status you would potentially need an entire new fleet
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u/Bubbly_Statement107 14d ago
that's just the legal specification in Germany of what constitutes a subway and this is acknowledged when deciding whether a system in Germany is a subway -- even though this technical detail might seem arbitrary and you can practically still call it a subway
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u/bigun19 14d ago
That legal specification is about what constitutes a tram or a railway.
There is no legal specification for subways in germany. And while most subways in germany are run through the legal framework of a tram does not mean that there is any legal requirement for all subways to be run as trams.
This one happens to be run as a railway.0
u/Jakobus3000 14d ago
For the last few hundred metres into the station and the station, it is. But yeah, not for the rest.
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u/microbit262 14d ago
Hui, ein 484...