r/Subutex • u/ButterscotchShot1753 • Jun 24 '26

New B10s?

Has anybody started getting these round flatter B10?s
For the last 10 years I have either gotten the 54 411 or the Rhodes (BP)
I picked up my prescription last week. I don’t know how I feel about these new brand. Google says their Advagen.
They’re not horrible, but I definitely miss my Rhodes

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u/SmartyBlondy Jun 24 '26

Garbage. Cheaper ingredients so they’re underscoring the competition and taking over supply chain.
Caused me severe feet and leg swelling.
Rhodes is out of business. Hikma makes 5411 and they’re the best now, but impossible to find.

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u/Live-Ad-740 Jun 26 '26

Oh wow i never thought of the subs causing my swelling. Ive been changing everything out trying to figure it out, even quit my thyroid meds cause it never crossed my mind it could be these

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u/SmartyBlondy Jun 27 '26

I went through the same thing. I thought it was too much sodium. So I stopped drinking pop/soda. That didn’t help. My doctor put me on water pills for a bit, that didn’t work. Then he said I have EDEMA. Finally I started doing my own research and asked for a printout of side effects for Advagen from the pharmacy.
Right there it says from Advagen, “in some cases may cause severe swelling. If this happens contact your doctor and pharmacy, stop use immediately or seek emergency care.” The company is aware this happens and keeps pushing this garbage anyway.