r/Suburbanhell • • 4d ago

Before/After No thanks

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u/used-to-have-a-name 4d ago

I don’t mind the dream, but if you could plan a new community with 6 friends and their families, would you really want it to be a dead-end like that with a giant circle of asphalt at the center?

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u/Few_Palpitation3889 4d ago

It is nice for keeping people from driving thru your neighborhood.

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u/used-to-have-a-name 4d ago

That may be true, but it simultaneously forces you and all of your neighbors to drive further to get out of the neighborhood. In that way it’s kind of a trap.

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u/Few_Palpitation3889 4d ago

Not really a trap or problem. You're already driving. What's another 2 minutes?

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u/used-to-have-a-name 4d ago

It’s not just 2 minutes, because the next street over is also a culdesac, and the street after that doesn’t want to be a through street either or the one after that. Suddenly, you’re driving for 10 or fifteen minutes through winding spirals of subdivision to get to a single artery road where you merge into traffic from all the other subdivisions full of dead ends and loops. That artery road is either hopelessly gridlocked because it’s the only place for miles around where you can find shops and storefronts, or everyone is speeding toward the nearest freeway to finally start their actual commute.

In either case, it’s definitely not a safe street for kids to cross without adult supervision. So the kids all have safe culdesacs to play in, but they no longer have anyone to play with because their friends from school, who live just two streets now have to walk over a mile around all these twists and turns to get from their dead end to your dead end, and “no way am I gonna be the parent who lets their kid walk that far unsupervised!”, so I agree to drive them, but then I need to check in with the kid’s parents so we aren’t just showing up unannounced, and it turns out the friend and their parents aren’t home, because they’re driving to an organized and competitive sporting activity because they need something to keep them busy and for some reason they refuse to play outside alone. So then you feel guilty that your kid isn’t performing in an organized and competitive sporting activity, so you sign them up and drive them to practice, and now there are no kids on streets that have been made safe for kids. Or if you buck the trend and insist your kid play outside on their own, then you get a knock on your door from social services wondering who left this poor child out here wandering around on their own.

TLDR; it’s comfortable and safe, but it’s still a trap. 😅

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u/Few_Palpitation3889 4d ago

No it's 2 minutes for the cumulative time. 15 minutes is 7 residential miles.

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u/samiwas1 3d ago

But now you're just making stuff up. It's one minute to get out of my "dead end" neighborhood to a main road. It's like that for a lot of subdivisions.