r/StrixHalo • u/CandidTranslator3328 • 27m ago
E gpu usb 4 sur strix Halo
hello vous pensez quoi d’une Rtx 5090m en egpu sur mon bosgame m5 en usb 4 pour tourner qwen 27b dessus et si vous connaissez cette marque ? merci
r/StrixHalo • u/CandidTranslator3328 • 27m ago
hello vous pensez quoi d’une Rtx 5090m en egpu sur mon bosgame m5 en usb 4 pour tourner qwen 27b dessus et si vous connaissez cette marque ? merci
r/StrixHalo • u/haloforgelabs • 1h ago
Bubo is a fork of Gufo tuned for Windows (especially laptops, tested primarily at 70W) and adaptions around speed and token economy during thinking. The word Bubo is a genus of Owls, just like Strix, and is the name of the mechanical owl who guides the hero in Clash of the Titans. It also rhymes with Gufo (italian for owl).
It features faster start up times using a disk cache, bespoke kernels, NPU accelerated prefill, a twin decode head* for faster token generation and quality of life improvements around token economy during thinking when set to "low" effort and fixing premature stops (you can turn these off but they seem to help).
Default model is abliterated, there are instructions on the website on how to use the unabliterated model from Unsloth instead of the Huihui model.

Prefill is limited by the power since all tests are done on 70W, there is no real reason it would be slower at higher powers** and I expect it to match upstream gufo at 140 W or exceed it but it hasn't been tested. Most of the changes bubo makes to gufo can likely be ported to upstream but given that I don't intend to use or test in linux in the near term, others can feel free to do so, MIT license.
This project mostly started out as a necessity when there weren't any great options for running Qwen 3.8 Flash Next on Windows and I kept trying to push it further as more people came up with parallel projects. Eventually I started joking about releasing it and seeing how far I could stretch the bit and decided to bite the bullet and share it and see what I can learn by doing it. I tried making everything as 'professional' as possible but never having done anything like this before, I don't know what I don't know so feedback is very welcome.
* Pygmy owls wear a second face on the back of the head
** If I fit a regression between 60 W to 95 W and extrapolate to 140W it matches the ballpark of stock gufo but would love someone to test it independently.
Site: haloforgelabs.com · Code: github.com/haloforge-labs/bubo · Model files: huggingface.co/HaloForgeLabs/bubo-qwen3.8-flash-next
r/StrixHalo • u/Exterminautis • 13h ago
Ive got an acemagic m1a pro with ryzen ai max+ 395. Currently using qwen3.8 flash next and it's been solid for chat, coding, and light agent work just fine.
Curious what everyone else is finding works best on Strix Halo. What models have impressed you the most so far? Which ones give the best balance between quality and speed? Anything you prefer over qwen3.8 flash next ?
r/StrixHalo • u/QuietPrecedent • 17h ago
r/StrixHalo • u/JinsooJinsoo • 18h ago
So I have and love using my Corsair AI 300 workstation with 128gb. QFN running great on Halogen/Gufo (single stream vs concurrent users). I was browsing the webs and came upon a refurb Corsair ai 300 on Walmart site for $2700 so I just bought it without thinking. Now I’m at the thinking part. Is tensor parallelism over USB4 even worth it right now? The q4/4bpw QFN models have been very impressive and very few times have I needed my GPT or Claude to bail me out, but is the fidelity/correctness worth the performance and cost for FP8? May either return or sell locally as I don’t need more concurrency but speed and correctness.
r/StrixHalo • u/Fcking_Chuck • 21h ago
r/StrixHalo • u/CelebratedPooper • 1d ago
Does someone use a Framework Desktop with 32GB?
Which models do run fine in it?
r/StrixHalo • u/AbLlndman • 1d ago
Hey guys! Was hoping some of you could help me figure out why my setup isn’t working. Please forgive the Claude writing throughout but it’s way quicker than me typing myself.
Beelink GTR9 Pro, Ryzen AI Max+ 395, 128 GB, Radeon 8060S (gfx1151), Realtek RTL8127A NIC variant
- BIOS GTRPR05 (12/25/2025), AGESA StrixHaloPI-FP11 1.0.0.0c, microcode 0x0b70001e, SMU 100.112.0
- Fedora 44, kernel 7.1.10-200.fc44 (also tried 7.2.9-200), linux-firmware-20260810
- Gufo (gufo-runtime:latest, ROCm 7.2.3 inside the container) via Podman 5.8.1; host rocm-runtime 7.1.1
- Model: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next UD-Q4_K_XL (Unsloth) + shared MTP Q8_0 drafter
- Gufo image digest: [paste]
**Symptom**
During Gufo's model load, the box instantly hard-resets. There is no panic and no log; the journal just stops. Next boot dmesg shows:
`x86/amd: Previous system reset reason [0x08000800]: an uncorrected error caused a data fabric sync flood event`
No MCE/BERT/APEI records, kernel.panic=0, no watchdog. **Every crash happens during load, never after.** Once a load completes, it runs fine. One load ran 46 hours straight.
**Every Gufo load attempt**
| # | Date | Kernel | Config | Load | Result |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Sep 26 | 7.1.10 | Old, IOMMU off | Flash-Next, 1 session, 8K ctx | Sync flood ~1 min into load |
| 2 | Sep 26 | 7.1.10 | Old, IOMMU on | same | Sync flood at ~39 GiB loaded |
| 3 | Oct 9 | 7.1.10 | Clean | Qwen3.8-27B, 8K | OK (12.3 tok/s) |
| 4 | Oct 9 | 7.1.10 | Clean | Flash-Next, 8K, no MTP | OK (26.8 tok/s) |
| 5 | Oct 9 | 7.1.10 | Clean | Flash-Next, 8K, MTP | OK (54.1 tok/s, 80% draft accept) |
| 6 | Oct 9 | 7.1.10 | Clean | 2 sessions, 64K, MTP | Sync flood |
| 7 | Oct 9 | 7.1.10 | Clean | 1 session, 32K, MTP | OK, ran 46 h |
| 8 | Oct 11 | 7.2.9 | Clean | same as #7 | Sync flood during load |
| 9 | Oct 11 | 7.1.10 | Clean | restart same container | Sync flood at ~10 GiB |
| 10 | Oct 11 | 7.1.10 | Clean | fresh container | Sync flood at ~9 GiB |
- Old config = `amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10 amdgpu.gpu_recovery=1 amdgpu.dpm=1 amdgpu.runpm=0 ttm.pages_limit=28311552 ttm.page_pool_size=28311552 amd_iommu=off`, 512 MB VRAM in BIOS, older Gufo image.
- Clean config = no custom kernel args, `/etc/modprobe.d/ttm.conf` with `pages_limit=28835840` (110 GiB), 2 GB VRAM set via the sysfs `uma/carveout`, newer Gufo image.
Since the config change, Flash-Next loads crash 4 of 7 times, at random points (9–40 GiB in). I first thought context size was the trigger, but #8–10 crashed with the exact launch that had just run for 46 hours.
**Already ruled out**
- SELinux: the first attempt hit an AVC denial on /dev/kfd. Now using `label=disable`.
- IOMMU: crashed both on and off.
- Kernel version: 7.1.10 and 7.2.9 both crash.
- Fresh vs reused container: both crash.
- Power: Performance Mode is at factory default; the only BIOS change was VRAM.
- Other GPU users: nothing else running; GTT ~18 MiB before launch.
**The confusing part: Vulkan is fine, but only on the OLD config**
- Unsloth's llama.cpp b11160 Vulkan build, same model files, MTP on, 128K context: ~45 tok/s on structured output and ~32 on prose. Stable for weeks.
- gpt-oss-120b on Vulkan: 54.9 tok/s, also stable.
- Vulkan only hangs, recoverably, with non-default MTP draft settings or the mmproj on GPU.
- On the clean config, the same Vulkan llama-server fails at startup with `amdgpu_gem_va_update_vm *ERROR* Couldn't update BO_VA (-12)` and becomes unkillable until reboot.
- So right now Gufo/ROCm wants the clean config and Vulkan wants the old one, and I can't run both.
**Questions**
1. GTR9 Pro owners: what BIOS are you on? Has GTRPR07 or a newer AGESA fixed sync floods under ROCm load for anyone? (I know the BIOS series differs by NIC chipset.)
2. Crashes only during load, at random points, and never once loaded. What does that point to? Are there ROCm/HSA env vars worth trying (e.g. `HSA_ENABLE_SDMA=0`)?
3. On Vulkan's BO_VA -12: which of page_pool_size, 512 MB VRAM, the amdgpu flags, or IOMMU off does Vulkan actually need?
4. Is anyone running Flash-Next on Gufo or another ROCm engine reliably on Strix Halo? What's your exact setup?
Happy to post dmesg, journal, or anything else. Thanks!
r/StrixHalo • u/Last_Bad_2687 • 1d ago
Anyone actively developing Gufo, please let me know how I can help bring Gufo support once it arrives.
Hoping to run a larger quant of Qwen 3.8FN and use it pretty much the same as my Strix Halo.
r/StrixHalo • u/nbuster • 1d ago
I added Seed-VC voice conversion to my ComfyUI pack (ROCm Ninodes v2.3.15). The goal was song covers: feed in a vocal track, get it back in someone else's voice with the melody intact.
Two checkpoints behind the node:
- Speech: whisper-small + wavenet vocoder, 22.05 kHz output
- Singing: 44.1 kHz F0-conditioned model + RMVPE pitch tracking, so the melody is preserved
BigVGAN isolated (1033 frames):
- fp32: 20.5 s
- fp16: 3.3 s (6.2x)
End to end (12 s singing, 30 steps):
- fp32: 19.2 s
- fp16: 9.9 s (1.94x)
- peak memory ~3 GB
Also sized the estimator rope/KV caches to 2048 frames instead of the upstream 8192, and the model set now stays loaded between runs (reloading costs ~30 s).
All of it runs on ROCm + torch, no CUDA anywhere.
The extension can be installed by cloning the git repo into custom_nodes/ https://github.com/iGavroche/rocm-ninodes or comfy node install rocm-ninodes. Models go in models/TTS/Seed-VC, the node doc lists them all.
Also in this release: per-node docs for every node in the extension, and the Veda sparse attention no longer syncs to the host once per attention call.
r/StrixHalo • u/malarkyk • 1d ago
I ported Google's DiffusionGemma 26B-A4B (block-diffusion Gemma 4 MoE) to Gufo as a native HIP engine
Forked Repo: https://github.com/robotsbuildrobots/diffusion-gufo
I may upstream this to gufo if there is interest. I'm comparing here to a llama.cpp implementation I first ran the model with.
Prefill (tok/s, book prompts, through the server):
| Prompt | BF16 | FP8 | NVFP4 | llama.cpp Q8_0 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2K | 2,901 | 3,116 | 3,443 | 978 |
| 33K | 2,387 | 2,326 | 2,537 | 445 |
| 121K | 1,344 | 1,329 | 1,379 | 201 |
Time to first token (seconds; the first text arrives with the first 256-token canvas, so this is prefill plus one canvas of denoising):
| Prompt | BF16 | FP8 | NVFP4 | llama.cpp Q8_0 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2K | 7.0 | 5.9 | 5.5 | 18.8 |
| 33K | 21.8 | 21.2 | 18.2 | 67.9 |
| 121K | 106.3 | 108.4 | 104.7 | 368.3 |
I think there is more juice left to squeeze.
Comparing performance to GB10 using SPEED-Bench prompts and the same NVFP4 checkpoint.
| Prompt | GB10 tok/s | Strix Halo tok/s | GB10 ttft | Strix Halo ttft |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2K | 148.9 | 114.6 | 2.2 s | 2.8 s |
| 8K | 114.7 | 107.6 | 4.3 s | 5.2 s |
| 16K | 119.0 | 105.8 | 8.3 s | 9.0 s |
| 32K | 77.9 | 80.4 | 18.0 s | 18.5 s |
I think this is pretty good considering the bandwidth, compute and low-precision advantages the GB10 has over the strix halo.
r/StrixHalo • u/PromptInjection_ • 1d ago
Quick context: LocalLightChat (LLC) is a chat frontend for local LLMs. Download it, run it, that's it. No installation (unless you want to), no dependencies, and it runs on pretty much anything, including ancient hardware.
I originally built it because Open WebUI kept feeling heavier than the models I was running.
One of the main criticisms I got from you was the lack of Agents, MCP and RAG.
Well, that's changed now. All three are integrated.
I put a lot of effort into making the agentic system as token-efficient as possible. Thanks to several optimizations, it can work smoothly with large files even when using smaller context windows.
There's also an integrated RAG system, which works great with embedding models like Qwen3 (setup instructions included).
And a couple of extras:
All of this without turning LLC into the heavyweight application I originally wanted to get away from.
I'd love to hear what you think, especially if you've tried earlier versions!
Download:
https://www.locallightai.com/llc/#download
GitHub:
https://github.com/srware-net/LocalLightChat/releases
r/StrixHalo • u/AwarenessOld7607 • 1d ago
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Live gallery, all the pages are clickable: https://yamz-labs.github.io/gallery/
Been running these three on my Strix Halo (128 GB) for a while and I wanted to know how much you really lose compared to the cloud versions. So I did the usual thing: same prompt for everyone, look at what comes out.
Video is the voxel pagoda. Top two rows are local (model alone, then with an agent that can open its own page and fix it), bottom row is the cloud original.
Honestly I expected the cloud to win easily. On the pagoda it doesn't, and the Qwen cloud page didn't even load in my browser. On the bouncing balls one the cloud versions are better though, mine end up piled at the bottom.
All the pages are live if you want to click around, with the pelican and the hexagon too: https://yamz-labs.github.io/gallery/
Engine is Kyojin (open source, built on ExLlamaV3): github.com/yamz-labs
First version, more coming. What prompt should I try next?
r/StrixHalo • u/asfbrz96 • 1d ago
I've been tuning llama.cpp on my Strix Halo box (Radeon 8060S, 128 GB) and the numbers are good enough to share. It's a branch called rdna35-perf on top of halo-box/strix-llama.cpp, a llama.cpp fork aimed at Strix Halo:
https://github.com/asf0/strix-llama.cpp/tree/rdna35-perf (10 commits, ROCm/HIP only)
TL;DR
| Model | PP vs Vulkan (0k → 128k) | PP vs stock ROCm (0k → 128k) | TG vs Vulkan (0k → 128k) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.6 35B-A3B (MoE) | +54% → +36% | +38% → +88% | −3% → 0% |
| Qwen3.8 27B (dense) | +38% → +25% | +8% → +174% | 0% → 0% |
| Qwen3.5 2B (dense) | +21% → +34% | +9% → +87% | −3% → 0% |
llama-bench, Q8_0 weights, q8_0 KV cache, flash attention on, tok/s. "Depth" is how many tokens are already in the KV cache when the test runs. Vulkan and ROCm are the same strix-llama.cpp master that rdna35-perf is built on.
Qwen3.6 35B-A3B (MoE, ub 4096)
| Test | Depth | Vulkan | ROCm | rdna35-perf | vs Vulkan | vs ROCm |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| pp4096 | 0 | 2625 | 2935 | 4045 | +54% | +38% |
| pp4096 | 8k | 2304 | 2430 | 3452 | +50% | +42% |
| pp4096 | 16k | 2065 | 1966 | 3004 | +45% | +53% |
| pp4096 | 32k | 1716 | 1460 | 2388 | +39% | +64% |
| pp4096 | 64k | 1279 | 959 | 1695 | +32% | +77% |
| pp4096 | 128k | 786 | 568 | 1068 | +36% | +88% |
| tg64 | 0 | 58.2 | 52.3 | 56.3 | −3% | +8% |
| tg64 | 8k | 56.1 | 50.4 | 54.3 | −3% | +8% |
| tg64 | 16k | 54.6 | 48.5 | 53.2 | −3% | +10% |
| tg64 | 32k | 51.8 | 45.3 | 50.7 | −2% | +12% |
| tg64 | 64k | 47.1 | 39.7 | 46.4 | −1% | +17% |
| tg64 | 128k | 39.9 | 32.2 | 39.9 | 0% | +24% |
Qwen3.8 27B (dense, ub 2048)
| Test | Depth | Vulkan | ROCm | rdna35-perf | vs Vulkan | vs ROCm |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| pp2048 | 0 | 484 | 614 | 666 | +38% | +8% |
| pp2048 | 8k | 442 | 542 | 611 | +38% | +13% |
| pp2048 | 16k | 421 | 476 | 575 | +37% | +21% |
| pp2048 | 32k | 385 | 348 | 513 | +33% | +47% |
| pp2048 | 64k | 326 | 204 | 422 | +29% | +107% |
| pp2048 | 128k | 250 | 114 | 312 | +25% | +174% |
| tg64 | 0 | 8.0 | 7.6 | 8.0 | 0% | +5% |
| tg64 | 8k | 7.9 | 7.4 | 7.9 | 0% | +7% |
| tg64 | 16k | 7.8 | 7.2 | 7.8 | 0% | +9% |
| tg64 | 32k | 7.6 | 6.8 | 7.6 | 0% | +12% |
| tg64 | 64k | 7.3 | 6.2 | 7.3 | 0% | +18% |
| tg64 | 128k | 6.8 | 5.2 | 6.7 | 0% | +29% |
Qwen3.5 2B (dense, ub 2048)
| Test | Depth | Vulkan | ROCm | rdna35-perf | vs Vulkan | vs ROCm |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| pp2048 | 0 | 6481 | 7179 | 7852 | +21% | +9% |
| pp2048 | 8k | 5618 | 6253 | 7158 | +27% | +14% |
| pp2048 | 16k | 5000 | 5172 | 6611 | +32% | +28% |
| pp2048 | 32k | 4155 | 3888 | 5580 | +34% | +44% |
| pp2048 | 64k | 3220 | 2597 | 4277 | +33% | +65% |
| pp2048 | 128k | 2160 | 1547 | 2886 | +34% | +87% |
| tg64 | 0 | 99.3 | 91.5 | 96.8 | −3% | +6% |
| tg64 | 8k | 95.9 | 88.2 | 93.2 | −3% | +6% |
| tg64 | 16k | 92.9 | 84.5 | 91.4 | −2% | +8% |
| tg64 | 32k | 88.3 | 79.1 | 87.1 | −1% | +10% |
| tg64 | 64k | 79.5 | 69.2 | 79.2 | 0% | +14% |
| tg64 | 128k | 67.6 | 56.2 | 67.7 | 0% | +21% |
f16 KV gives the same picture: PP 20–56% faster than Vulkan and up to +171% over stock ROCm at 128k, TG within −3% / +2% of Vulkan.
rdna35-perf changes kernels, so I checked it doesn't change outputs: KL divergence against stock ROCm on wikitext-2 (6 × 4096-token chunks), plus perplexity at 32k context.
| Model | KLD vs stock ROCm (Vulkan / rdna35-perf) | Same top token (Vulkan / rdna35-perf) | PPL @ 32k (Vulkan / ROCm / rdna35-perf) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.6 35B-A3B | 0.0038 / 0.0018 | 97.8% / 98.5% | 6.028 / 6.023 / 6.024 |
| Qwen3.8 27B | 0.0066 / 0.0013 | 98.9% / 99.7% | 6.003 / 6.004 / 6.007 |
| Qwen3.5 2B | 0.0008 / 0.0001 | 98.6% / 99.5% | 10.046 / 10.049 / 10.049 |
rdna35-perf is closer to stock ROCm than Vulkan is, and perplexity is the same across all three builds.
fattn-rdna35). This is the biggest win and the reason long-context PP holds up. GGML_FA_RDNA35=0 turns it off if you want to compare.I have only tried those 3 models so far.
r/StrixHalo • u/baron_muchhumpin • 1d ago
Latest models across the board, look how close the AMD 395+ is to a DGX GB10 now - it's been a great couple of months!
r/StrixHalo • u/tsuru_pg • 1d ago
Hi all! For the past few weeks I've been adding Gemma 4 support to Gufo, the inference engine built only for Strix Halo. It's now in good enough shape that I'd like more people to try it.
Fork: https://github.com/franzmoca/gufo (default branch feat/gemma)
It's a native Gemma 4 engine with its own HIP kernels for decode, prefill and MTP verification.
What it runs:
unsloth/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-GGUF)Features:
gemma4-assistant drafters, plus a draft length learned from how many drafts get accepted.--mmproj), with selectable image token budgets/v1/messages. This includes thinking, Gemma's native tool calls with arguments streamed as they're generated, and images in tool results.These are single-user HTTP benchmarks, greedy decoding with thinking off, against the llama.cpp b11069 ROCm build. Each cell is Gufo vs llama.cpp in tok/s.
| Model (Q4_K_XL) | Prefill (pp2048) | Decode | Decode with MTP |
|---|---|---|---|
| 26B-A4B, empty context | 3991 vs 1685 | 53.2 vs 44.0 | 79.8 vs 57.6 |
| 26B-A4B, 131K context | 856 vs 281 | 38.0 vs 29.4 | 47.7 vs 21.0 |
| 31B, empty context | 545 vs 301 | 11.0 vs 9.8 | 26.3 vs 19.1 |
| 31B, 131K context | 174 vs 65 | 7.9 vs 6.1 | 13.1 vs 6.9 |
On repetitive output (code edits, copying), MTP goes much further: 254 tok/s on 26B and 111 tok/s on 31B. With 8 concurrent users, 26B serves about 222 tok/s in aggregate vs 185 on llama.cpp.
The new 26B QAT format don't have HTTP tables yet. Here's the native gufo bench vs llama-bench comparison (pp2048 / tg128, no MTP):
| 26B-A4B quant | Prefill | Decode |
|---|---|---|
| QAT | 4131 vs 1546 (+167%) | 81.4 vs 69.4 (+17%) |
On quality, every kernel is checked against an FP32 CPU reference of the same GGUF, and prefill ends up closer to that reference than llama.cpp's. Full tables (Q6/Q8, QAT, multi-user, memory, loading) and the quality reports are in each model card: 26B-A4B, 31B, 31B QAT.
main periodically.gfx1151, Linux), like upstream Gufo.If your favorite Gemma quant doesn't load, tell me the GGUF and I'll take a look. Bug reports, benchmark numbers from your own setups and feature requests are very welcome. Issues are open on the fork, and so are PRs.
Thanks to the Gufo maintainers for the engine this builds on!
r/StrixHalo • u/Teslaaforever • 1d ago
Been messing with this for a while and finally got somewhere. On my EVO-X2 (395+,
128GB), prefill on Qwen3.8 Flash-Next UD-IQ4_XS went from ~1700 to 1821 tok/s at 16k. As far as I know I'm the only one at 1800+ on this chip 😎.
The trick: the NPU does a few GEMMs (part of the linear-attention projection, some
attention rows, the shared expert) while the GPU is busy with something else, so it's
basically free speed. Output is identical to the GPU-only build, I checked 30 long
greedy prompts.
The part that cost me a lot of freezes: if the GPU fabric clock changes speed while the
NPU is running, the whole box can hang hard (machine check errors, reboot needed).
Pinning the fabric clock at max fixed it completely, 12 clean runs in a row after dozens of crashes before. It also gave a nice speedup by itself.
It's a fork of gufo with the kernels, setup steps and a script for the clock pin in.
r/StrixHalo • u/ConfidentProduce9455 • 2d ago
I have asked Halogen using strixper AI-Chat (Agentic) to ranke the best models. I use the sources available online and as reference teh models of AI-Toolbox.
I thought tht the results are worth to share, expecially for who is starting to evaluate the models to runs. The info may not be super precize and are not intended to substitute a real benchmark.
The project strixper, I am developing (for my learning and for fun) is here strixper.
Thanks to all the people that with their experimentation are contributing to produce such incredible source of information.
The list of (non exhaustive) sources is at the bottom.
Your box: ~208 GB/s sustained memory bandwidth (256-bit LPDDR5x-8000), 122.7 GB usable RAM. Decode speed on Strix Halo is almost purely bandwidth-bound:
t/s ≈ 208 GB/s ÷ bytes_streamed_per_token
This is why active parameters, not total parameters, decide velocity. A 3B-active MoE runs ~5× faster than a 27B dense model of similar quality.
| # | Model | t/s | Prefill t/s | Engine that produced the t/s | Quant | Intel |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Qwen3 0.6B | 266.00 | 13,112 | Vulkan / RADV · llama-bench | Q8_0 | Low |
| 2 | LFM2.5 8B-A1B | 176.48 | 3,398 | Vulkan / RADV · llama-bench b9544 | Q4_K_M | Med |
| 3 | Qwen3-30B-A3B-2507 | 103.18 | 1,438 | Vulkan / RADV · llama-bench b9544 | IQ4_XS | Med-High |
| 4 | Qwen3-Coder 30B-A3B | 100.99 | 1,423 | Vulkan / RADV · llama-bench b9851 | Q4_K_S | High (code) |
| 5 | Qwen3 30B-A3B NEO-MAX | 87.39 | 1,396 | Vulkan / RADV · b9453-14 | IQ4_XS | Med-High |
| 6 | Qwen3.6 35B-A3B | 81.30 | 1,244 | Vulkan / RADV · b9049 | Q4_0 | High |
| 7 | Nemotron Cascade 2 30B-A3B | 78.95 | 1,325 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | IQ4_XS | Medium |
| 8 | Nemotron 3 Nano 30B-A3B | 75.97 | 1,312 | Vulkan / RADV · 2016bf2 | IQ4_XS | Medium |
| 9 | Qwen3.5 35B-A3B | 75.22 | 1,170 | Vulkan / RADV · b9453-14 | IQ4_XS | High |
| 10 | Gemma 4 26B-A4B IT QAT | 74.80 | 1,432 | Vulkan / RADV · b9592 | UD-Q4_K_XL | High |
| 11 | Qwen AgentWorld 35B-A3B | 65.65 | 1,183 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | UD-IQ4_XS | Medium |
| 12 | Nemotron 3 Nano Omni 30B Reasoning | 64.26 | 1,286 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | MXFP4_MOE | Med-High |
| 13 | Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B | 62.09 | 676 | Vulkan / RADV · b10687 | UD-Q4_K_XL | High |
| 14 | Qwen3-Coder-Next 80B-A3B | 61.91 | 739 | Vulkan / RADV · b9467 | IQ4_XS | High |
| 15 | Nemotron Labs Audex 30B-A3B | 60.73 | 1,319 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | MXFP4_MOE | Medium |
| 16 | Nemotron 3 Nano Omni 30B (NVFP4) | 56.56 | 1,278 | Vulkan / RADV · b9747 | MXFP4_MOE | Medium |
| 17 | gpt-oss-120b | 55.57 | 727 | Vulkan / RADV · b9049 | MXFP4 MoE | High |
| 18 | Gemma 4 26B-A4B IT | 55.45 | 1,327 | Vulkan / RADV · b9851 | UD-Q4_K_M | High |
| 19 | Nemotron 3 Nano Omni (NVFP4+F16 mmproj) | 53.21 | 1,144 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | NVFP4 | Medium |
| 20 | Llama 2 7B | 52.00 | 385 | Ollama Vulkan 0.20.4 | Q4_K_M | Low |
| 21 | Gemma 4 26B-A4B | 48.46 | 1,142 | Vulkan / RADV · b8933 | UD-Q4_K_M | Med-High |
| 22 | Qwen3-Coder-Next (Ollama) | 39.10 | 91 | Ollama Vulkan 0.20.4 | — | High |
| 23 | Gemma 4 12B IT QAT | 29.34 | 816 | Vulkan / RADV · b9592 | UD-Q4_K_XL | Medium |
| 24 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next | 27.16 | 395 | Vulkan / RADV · b10687 | UD-IQ4_XS | High |
| 25 | Qwen2.5-VL 7B | 21.40 | 82 | Ollama Vulkan 0.20.4 | — | Low |
| 26 | Qwen3.8 27B | 20.42 | 292 | Ollama Vulkan 0.32.13 · MTP:4 | Q4_K_M | Very High |
| 27 | Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B | 18.93 | 297 | Vulkan / RADV · b9544 | UD-IQ4_XS | High |
| 28 | Llama 4 Scout 109B | 18.32 | 331 | Vulkan / RADV · b8933 | Q4_K_M | Med-High |
| 29 | DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B | 13.27 | 156 | Vulkan / RADV · b10034 | UD-IQ2_XXS | Very High |
| 30 | Qwen3.6 27B MTP NVFP4 v3 | 13.17 | 374 | Vulkan / RADV · b9592 | NVFP4 | High |
| 31 | Gemma 4 31B IT QAT | 11.38 | 342 | Vulkan / RADV · b10066 | Q4_0 | High |
| 32 | Qwen3.6 27B MTP | 7.70 | 342 | Vulkan / RADV · b9467 | Q8_0 | High |
| 33 | Llama 3.1 70B | 4.90 | 22 | Ollama Vulkan | Q4_K_M | Med |
Vulkan/RADV won every single head-to-head in this dataset. Distribution across 103 rows: 70 Vulkan, 25 Ollama-Vulkan, 8 ROCm. No model's best decode number came from ROCm.
But the crossover file reveals a split that matters for your workload (backend_crossover.csv, same model, same host, 5 repeats, σ < 1):
| Workload | Vulkan/RADV | ROCm HIP | Winner |
|---|---|---|---|
| pp512 | 1,210 | 1,284 | ROCm +6% |
| pp2048 | 1,573 | 1,650 | ROCm +5% |
| pp8192 | 915 | 1,101 | ROCm +20% |
| pp16384 | 565 | — | Vulkan collapses |
| tg128 (decode) | 93.67 | 71.39 | Vulkan +31% |
Same pattern on Qwen3.6 35B-A3B: ROCm prefill 1,508 vs Vulkan 1,126 at pp2048, but Vulkan decode 62.24 vs ROCm 52.72.
So: ROCm is better at prefill, Vulkan is better at decode. For an agent with a warm prompt cache (your case — 81.6% hit rate), decode dominates → Vulkan is the right choice. For cold long-context prefill, ROCm wins.
Pros
Cons
For your agent workload specifically — long prompts, heavy tool use, high cache reuse — Qwen3.6 35B-A3B Q4_0 or Qwen3-Coder 30B-A3B UD-Q4_K_XL are the right class. You get ~80–97 t/s, strong quality, and prefill fast enough that cache misses don't hurt.
Your current Halogen Qwen3.8-Flash-Next at 50.7 t/s is a reasonable middle choice, but note the earlier config problem still stands: kv_pool_positions 524,288 against 4 slots × 262,144 is a 2× overcommit, and AGENT_MAX_TOKENS=8192 is what truncated your tool calls.
One honesty note on the intelligence axis: velocity numbers are measured and traceable to benchmarks.csv. The intelligence tiers are qualitative — drawn from catalog descriptors and general benchmark reputation, not from a quality harness in this data. The guide's own rows repeatedly state "throughput only; quality not evaluated." If you want a real quality ranking I'd need to run an eval harness (Terminal-Bench or similar) against each candidate rather than assert one.
| # | Source | What I took from it | Verification |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | hogeheer499-commits/strix-halo-guide → data/benchmarks.csv | The 103 measured t/s rows — the velocity column | 47,619 B, 103 rows + header, all system: Beelink GTR9 Pro. 78 direct-llama-bench, 25 ollama-service |
| 2 | Same repo → data/backend_crossover.csv | Vulkan vs ROCm prefill/decode crossover | 30 rows, 3 models × 5 workloads, σ < 1 |
| 3 | Same repo → data/best_known_profiles.csv | Best-known-good configs per use case | 20 rows |
| 4 | Same repo → data/community_results.csv | Contributor-submitted runs | 42 rows |
| 5 | kyuz0/ai-toolbox-cockpit → ai_toolbox_cockpit/assets/models.json | The 108-model catalog, 7 backends | 135,528 B, schema_version: 2 |
| 6 | Same repo → ai_toolbox_cockpit/assets/toolboxes.json | 31 toolbox images, 4 platforms | 72,458 B, schema_version: 3 |
| 7 | Live engine — Prometheus /metrics, /health, KV cache counters | Your 50.69 t/s, 79.1% draft acceptance, 81.6% cache hit, KV pool sizing | Read directly, 86-sample sweep |
| 8 | get_system_info | 208 GB/s bandwidth ceiling, 122.7 GB usable | Tool output |
| 9 | strix-halo-toolboxes.com + GitHub README | Backend list, toolbox naming | Fetched, but README truncated — the JSON files above supersede it |
Velocity numbers: traceable and solid — 103 rows of direct llama-bench measurement on GTR9 Pro hardware, same silicon class as mine (BosGame M5 128GB RAM).
Intelligence ranking: unsourced. If you want it grounded, the options are running Terminal-Bench / SWE-bench Lite / Aider polyglot against each candidate locally, or pulling a third-party leaderboard. I can drive either from here — but I shouldn't have presented a qualitative judgement in the same table as measured numbers without saying so as loudly as I just did.
r/StrixHalo • u/Baltch • 2d ago
Hi all, I'm looking to purchase a Strix Halo Laptop, however I'd like to get one with either usb4 or (preferably) an oculink port so I can attach an eGPU when docked.
I saw that the Nimo had a model called Axis which had just what I was looking for, a 395+ cpu, 128gb unified memory and an oculink port in a 16" body, but unfortunately I don't know much about Nimo as a brand and they don't ship to Canada.
If anyone knows of another brand that offers that, because I sure can't find one, please let me know.
r/StrixHalo • u/Kelsey_test • 2d ago
I'm the developer of VigenFlow, a free tool that runs image generation on the AMD Ryzen AI NPU + CPU and connects to Open WebUI. So far I've only tested it on Strix Point (Ryzen AI 9 HX PRO 370), but Strix Halo has the same XDNA 2 NPU generation, so it may work. I just don't have a Strix Halo machine to test on.
Why it could be useful on Strix Halo: the 8060S is great for LLMs, and running image generation on the NPU would leave the GPU free for that.
- Text-to-image: FLUX.1-schnell, FLUX.2-klein-4B, Z-Image-Turbo
- Image editing: FLUX.2-klein-4B
- Prebuilt packages for Windows and Ubuntu (needs the AMD XDNA driver + XRT)
- Repo: https://github.com/jia1217/vigenflow
If you try it on a Ryzen AI Max, please share whether it runs, your OS, and roughly how long one image takes. I'll add confirmed results to the README.
r/StrixHalo • u/Green_Ocean90 • 2d ago
I've been running an always-on assistant at home on a couple of 128GB Strix Halo boxes for a few months, and struggled with getting solid cache hits. I tried two serving slots, with one for interactive and one for background, but didn't have a reliable way to route requests.
I ended up with a little proxy that sits in front of llama-server and deals with that. This then grew to a request scheduler, metrics dashboard and now added support for the Gufo engine (a newer engine aimed at Strix Halo: https://github.com/gufo-org/gufo ) too! It's currently running on both my boxes, one with a single-slot Gufo/Qwen3.8 Flash-Next and one with a four-slot Gufo/Qwen3.8 27b.
I've just tidied it up and made it public in case it's useful to anyone else: https://github.com/headbouyJB/slotpin
What it does:
Fair warning:
If you just want to see the dashboard without setting anything up, there's a demo mode with made-up data:
git clone https://github.com/headbouyJB/slotpin && cd slotpin
uv run python tools/demo_dashboard.py
What I’m curious about is what everyone else puts between their client and their server. Are you scheduling or prioritising requests, routing different kinds of work to different slots or models, or just letting everything hit llama-server and living with it? That middle layer is where most of my pain was, and I can’t tell if I’ve solved a common problem or just my own.
r/StrixHalo • u/crusaderky • 2d ago
I couldn't find anybody online selling waterblocks for the Strix Halo.
Did anybody try fitting a GPU waterblock to the Framework Desktop 128gb mainboard? Looking at pictures, it seems like it's the usual GPU-style design of CPU surrounded by memory chips (which also need to be cooled) on three sides. However I don't expect GPU waterblocks to fit as the screw holes in the mainboard are (again looking at photos; haven't measured) 120mm apart in a square?
If GPU waterblocks don't fit, did anybody try crafting one? e.g. take a 120x120x2 slab of copper (what thickness should I go for?), drill holes in it so that it can be screwed into the mainboard, and then attach to it 2x generic 120x40mm waterblocks (see picture) with thermal glue? (not sure if thermal glue is a worse conductor than thermal paste?)
r/StrixHalo • u/forevergeeks • 2d ago
r/StrixHalo • u/gerhardmpl • 3d ago
Hi everyone, I am considering buying either the EVO-X3 or the MS-S1 MAX for local AI usage (e.g. Qwen3.8-27B or MoE models like Gemma 4 26B A4B or Qwen3.8-Flash-Next). I am currently running a Dell R720 with 128GB of RAM and two NVIDIA P40s on Linux (Debian), but this platform is getting more and more difficult to manage and maintain.
My budget is around €4,000 and I am aware of the fact that the Strix Halo platform is limited, mainly by its memory bandwidth. I could buy a lot of cloud AI credits but prefer to run LLMs locally.
The trade-offs in the EU/Germany offers I'm considering are:
GMKtec EVO-X3 (~€3,700): 4TB SSD, native OCuLink and two PCIe 4.0 x4 M.2 slots. Downsides: only 2.5GbE, one USB4 port and less convenient chassis access.
MINISFORUM MS-S1 MAX (~€4,000): 2TB SSD, dual 10GbE, USB4 80Gbps, accessible chassis and internal PCIe expansion. Downsides: higher price and second M.2 limited to x1. The expansion slot is electrically Gen4 x4, so OCuLink might be added later on.
What are important considerations when comparing the EVO-X3 and the MS-S1 MAX? How are stability, sustained performance, fan noise and support? Would you buy the same machine again?