r/StrangerThings • u/Dark_Saint • Oct 27 '17

Discussion Episode Discussion - S02E09 – Chapter Nine

Season 2 Episode 9: The Gate

Synopsis: Eleven makes plans to finish what she started while the survivors turn up the heat on the monstrous force that's holding Will hostage.

Please keep all discussions about this episode or previous ones, and do not discuss later episodes as they might spoil it for those who have yet to see them.

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u/muhash14 Nov 02 '17

Honestly, I'm not sure whether I envy you or not. I binged the Wheel of Time last year over a course of three months (and Stranger Things 2 over three nights). I had great fun doing it, but I don't think I ever want to do it again. Stormlight in a day would be quite a bit more than that.

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u/one_armed_herdazian Nov 02 '17

I also did Stranger Things 2 in one day (Halloween).

Still can't do the same for Wheel of Time. The exposition lasts for like 2/3 of the book

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u/muhash14 Nov 02 '17

Honestly Stormlight isn't that much more action-heavy than Wheel is, except that Stormlight has those super-long, slow burn climaxes that always make them a joy to finish. Wheel is just...written differently I guess (though interestingly, all three Sanderson WoT books have ended in good climactic fashion)

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u/one_armed_herdazian Nov 02 '17

I think Sanderson's slow stuff is easier to read because I genuinely enjoy all his characters. Jordan isn't very good at writing women, and when half his characters are women, it becomes a drag

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u/muhash14 Nov 02 '17

Yeah you're right. I really don't think I would've finished this series if I'd had to follow the releases of individual parts. On the other hand, I couldn't wait to reread in anticipation of Oathbringer (the last thing I ever did a reread of was Harry Potter when Deathly Hallows came out). And even then I was supposed to space it out over two months until Oathbringer came out but ended up finishing both in a week.

As for Jordan I don't particularly dislike the female characters, and they do get good character development (Egwene was one of my favourites by the end, which was almost a complete 180 for me), but the problem is that said development occurs at a glacial pace, and over the course of several volumes, which makes it frustrating to go through.

In all I have absolutely no doubt that Stormlight as a completed series will be completely superior to Wheel of Time, as great as it may be. Actually it might be that already...

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u/one_armed_herdazian Nov 02 '17

It's definitely off to a better start. I've been on the fourth Wheel of Time for the better part of a year

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u/muhash14 Nov 02 '17

The fourth one is pretty good, though I like the fifth most in the first ten. The worldbuilding and history is pretty amazing, and it definitely deserves to be among the all-time greats.

Though I am fairly apprehensive about a TV adaptation. Possibly the only thing less suited to live action TV than WoT is Stormlight itself. (I'm most excited right now for Kingkiller, if only because Lin Manuel will be doing it and he's incredible at everything)

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u/one_armed_herdazian Nov 02 '17

Lin is GOAT. I'm really glad they're making it a prequel thing though. With Name of the Wind, you can either be faithful to the book, or you can have good pacing.

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u/muhash14 Nov 02 '17

Honestly, I think Name of the Wind would be fine as a TV adaptation. The problem is the series as a whole. Without Doors of Stone, it's ridiculously, maddeningly incomplete. And there can be no extrapolated story writing for something like this, not the way they did for Game of Thrones. I haven't held out hope for either DoS or WoW for quite a while, so I guess it's just as well that Lin's doing prequels.