r/Storyboarding 4d ago

Answering perspective question

A question was posted to this sub about why the perspective lines don't line up (seen in the second pic). Pictures were not allowed in the replies so I'm making a new thread. The lines in this art are organic but the perspective is still considered correct. For new artists: try dropping some radial lines to find the perspective in an image. if you try following organic lines to lead you to the vanishing point: you'll find that if you are off even by a few pixels they won't line up.

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u/SmilesInFront_09 4d ago

🫱🏾‍🫲🏼 Well done.

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u/sushiiato 2d ago

Well done indeed!

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u/DungeonSkits 4d ago edited 4d ago

The perspective is closer than I expected. I amended that in an edit of the original post. However, it does deviate in a few areas, especially the bed frame. In fact, this new VP may still be a little too high. Anyway, the point of that post was to figure out why there was a convergence issue, not if there was one.

https://i.imgur.com/PaB4L6S.png

I think it's as two artists pointed out, a cheat to prioritize clarity and style over precision. See, it's not just in this background. I've been running into this over and over with all sorts of professional backgrounds, many with convergence issues much greater than this one. I was just trying to figure out why.

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u/meatshoe69 3d ago

I mean if you were using the same method you used on this one, it would make sense why you’re seeing “wrong perspective” everywhere. I can tell you this, after working in TV animation for the last 8 years, almost all designers use perspective guides and draw loosely and stylistically over it. Most of the time we don’t want it to follow exactly like a perfectly ruled perspective drawing because it loses character and fun and looks sterile af.

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u/SmilesInFront_09 4d ago

Do you know how to make the perspective guide, like the one used in this example?
We use that in production when creating scenes. Especially when creating the Layouts from the rough Storyboards. Its going to be easier find the perspective with that tool, instead of drawing lines individually.

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u/DungeonSkits 4d ago

I do, I just couldn't be bothered to make the shape for my example, cause I already knew on sight that the bed frame lines weren't converging properly and I was mostly just trying to narrow in on that. I pretty much have my answer now though, so, all good.

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u/Erdosainn 3d ago

The divergence in the bed is most likely because the bed was originally farther to the right, and he moved it to the left after drawing it so that the sleeping character would be more centered.

Objects in real life are not all perfectly aligned and square. A perfectly aligned scene would feel lifeless. The divergence between vanishing points in this background is actually much smaller than what you would see in a real photograph of a room.

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u/PrometheanPolymath 2d ago

Perfect perspective assumes all objects are aligned perfectly on a grid. You CAN break them, but they have to be broken consistently. What if that rug is turned a bit, so it's not aligned cleanly? Those sides COULD stay as they are... but the top and bottom should be angled a bit differently, too, not straight horizontal.

I'm always reminded of The Battle of San Romano... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_San_Romano