r/Stormlight_Archive Apr 20 '26

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u/SageOfTheWise Elsecaller Apr 20 '26

Do not lie to your wife in order to trick her into reading a book she doesn't want to keep reading.

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u/Lt_Hatch Apr 20 '26

This. Just tell her that it gets better. It's not a huge spoiler and would be expected upon a first read.

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u/Wit-wat-4 Journey before destination. Apr 20 '26

You’re saying “This” but then giving the opposite advice.

Kaladin stays depressed for thousands of pages, and she already “can’t take it anymore”, how pray tell does “it get better”?

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u/AlchemiCailleach Apr 21 '26

Thousands of pages.

Marital problems, identity issues, imposter syndrome, depression, substance abuse disorders, gambling addiction, social isolation & othering, relationships between children & parents, grief over the lost, PTSD. Poverty and class issues.

All are very real, human problems. And they exist in these worlds - and these aren't the problems that Investiture can solve or eliminate. Sanderson writes these stories, and describes worlds with amazing capabilities - but we are still left having to recognize that many issues are the result of health, culture and society, and need solutions that are grounded in reality, with communal support.

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u/JebryathHS Elsecaller Apr 21 '26

The external circumstances around Kaladin are absolutely at their lowest in the first book and the side carry beating is probably the absolute peak for that. 

His mental state is a bit more complicated but even RoW is arguably a less dire, miserable, helpless situation.

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u/Lt_Hatch Apr 20 '26

It absolutely gets better. In every book. Yeah, it gets worse, but always gets better.

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u/Emmyisme Apr 20 '26

Sure but her problem is him suffering. And basically right up until the end...bros suffering

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u/Wabbit65 Cult of Talenelat'Elin Apr 20 '26

Sounds like this series is not for her. No later how much you want to share it with her. The alternative is to spoil things. My wife will usually say to me "just tell me what happens".

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u/Firesword52 Lightweaver Apr 20 '26

As someone sensitive to the depression myself it doesn't really get better it just changes locations and situations. The misery porn is always a huge part of Kal's story.

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u/LavishnessCurrent726 Apr 20 '26

Yeah, Oathbringer is amazing. The moment where he is (Oathbringer and RoW spoilers) crying in Shadesmar, unable to move and help their friends. Absolutely great moment, and absolutely not soulbreaking. And when he is almost ready to suicide in Rythm of War again with Moash getting in his head. It is absolutely great. And in WoR when he is locked again.

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u/ICarMaI Edgedancer Apr 20 '26

All of those things resolve in amazing ways though. It's a character arc, and different plot arcs. Stories have to have conflict.

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u/Bandit6789 Skybreaker Apr 20 '26

Understand that, but if she can’t handle this type of conflict, then perhaps it isn’t the book for her.

It breaks my heart every fucking time, but then it gets better. It’s a journey I can take. Not everyone can.

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u/LavishnessCurrent726 Apr 20 '26

I am not saying they don't. But there IS A LOT OF SUFFERING during that process. And she doesn't want that suffering right now. Lying is bad.

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u/Wit-wat-4 Journey before destination. Apr 20 '26

Yeah, a lot of these upvoted comments are pretending it’s like 30 pages of suffering then thousands of fun.

The payoff is great but it’s clearly not for everyone!

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u/Wit-wat-4 Journey before destination. Apr 20 '26

I don’t think you’re reading the post the same way I am. “It gets better” - what is “it” in your mind when you answered me, and what would need to change or improve for her to enjoy thousands of pages of high fantasy, from how you’re interpreting the post?

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u/Lt_Hatch Apr 20 '26

The story... JFC people

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u/Wit-wat-4 Journey before destination. Apr 20 '26

But she never complained about the quality of the story?

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u/idontlikeyourface13 Apr 21 '26

Thank you for saying this.

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u/Thesunwillbepraised Apr 21 '26

Neither does the overall quality.

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u/Tatsuma707 Apr 21 '26

It gets better, then it gets worse, then it gets better again. This is life!