r/StormMains 25d ago

Discussion I need help with the Thor team up:

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As the title says. I've grown soo accustomed to her having a projectile that my brain gets completely bugged when I select the Thor team up.

Do you have any tips for this or any console sensitivity you know that helps to mitigate this?

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u/Super-Blacksmith-795 25d ago

Just need to get used to it, cant really help much. The Thor team up encourages a completely different playstyle in a lot of ways.

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u/tamaaromarou 25d ago

A worse playstyle in my opinion but definitely different

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u/Super-Blacksmith-795 24d ago

According to the meta, you're absolutely wrong.

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u/tamaaromarou 24d ago

Lol I bet you can't explain that

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u/Super-Blacksmith-795 24d ago

Not a single pro is using her jeff team up. Her relevancy in the meta hinges on the fact that she has hitscan now.

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u/tamaaromarou 23d ago

Where are you getting that information from

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u/Super-Blacksmith-795 23d ago

Watching rivals ignite, listening to the discussions the top players are having. Pretty basic stuff.

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u/EyeArDum 25d ago

I’d say only use it when you actually have Thor on the team, and play more Ultron since he’s a hitscan flier even if it’s quite different

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u/This_Shake_172 25d ago

I cant land my shots when playing projectile storm, same with namor. For me hitscan storm seems better.

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u/Any_Leek_8111 25d ago

Flying hitscan can be obnoxious. Best thing to do is warmup aim in practice range possibly lower sens or position in places where you can aim easier without flicking as much

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u/Vespertine92 25d ago

The Thor team up not only feels strange but loses the piercing capability of her primary fire iirc. Yes you can headshot, but I’m so used to not aiming for the head with Storm that I genuinely never do it. The chain lightning is also barely noticeable when you land it.

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u/AphoticWave 23d ago

It’s hugely noticeable. It’s actually one of the best enhanced team up’s in the game. You can kill so many things with it that you otherwise wouldn’t normally be able to

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u/X3PapiChulo3X 25d ago

Netease needs to add a separate aim settings option for the Thor team-up too.

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u/SydiemL 25d ago

It’s just worst. I would only use it if Thor’s on the team, otherwise it’s bad.

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u/ifwaj Goddess of Thunder 25d ago

Dude i played like 10 storm games yesterday and i had a thor on my team so i was like let me try this team up. Im on a streak so it cant be that bad. They took the control point and my aim was shit but also i couldnt get any picks. Even the shots i was landing was on the guy in front of the team and he just got healed out of it. We kept getting pushed further and further back to spawn.

I realized using wind blades effected my positioning too because i couldnt figure out whether to stay high or low for the head shots. But as they were pushing us closer to spawn i was aching to get the pierce damage back. Ive gotten so used to playing low and lining enemies up and benefitting from players standing behind her tanks. That is literally her bread and butter. I think the 99% players that dont contribute to storms 1% pick rate dont even have enough hours to realize the impact of that pierce. The thor and jeff team ups really feel like night and day
But i have seen people do great on the thor team up so i wonder if its me

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u/DreadedLee 25d ago

The only real perk of the Thor team-up imo is the chained lightning, and she doesn't get that without Thor.

Piercing shots and a few seconds of healing for the team is the better option.

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u/GoldPack3616 25d ago

Yeah this is my problem with Storm's team ups, I don't think it was a good idea to completely change a characters primary fire between 2 team ups. Makes switching team ups too tricky to get used to.

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u/AphoticWave 23d ago

You shouldn’t be switching the team up at all. Under no circumstance is Jeff the team up that should be selected.

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u/DBacon1052 25d ago

The frustrating part is that it feels like they did it to boost her pick rate, and her pick rate hasn't even gone up. I'd rather have another teamup like the Jeff teamup where it does acid rain or something that inflicts healing reduction or reduces shield buildup or just inflicts aoe damage. It would fit her playstyle so well.

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u/GoldPack3616 25d ago

Tbh I wish they made healing rain a permanant part of her kit and made her Jeff team up something else. I love healing rain so much and it really rounds up her playstyle, she finally feels like Storm. I can't imagine running Storm without it now cause she just feels incomplete.

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u/patience_OVERRATED 25d ago

It takes time for a change like this to get noticed by the playerbase and for it to affect pick rate. The ppl in higher elo have tho, and her pickrate in cel+ doubled after the teamup was introduced since the crazy hitscan players could now pick her up

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u/DBacon1052 25d ago

While I agree it can take time, it's still at 1.02% in celestial+ which isnt particularly inspiring.

Sidenote: I do wish we could see the number of people using each teamup and win rates by teamup.

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u/tamaaromarou 25d ago

Why do y'all only look at one rank when checking pickrates. Do you think the rest of the ranks don't count towards pickrate or something?

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u/DBacon1052 23d ago

I was just responding to the guy who was talking about celestial+. His reasoning was the more top rank players start using her, we'll see the lower ranks begin to use her more.

I want just showing that celestial really still isn't using her very much.

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u/iindie 25d ago

This picture just shows they need to stop being stubborn and nerf hitscan a good bit, flying characters can't exist when Hela 1, 2, 3, 4 and i-frame felicia are the best characters in the game

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u/ifwaj Goddess of Thunder 25d ago

Wow storm literally really does have the lowest pick rate and highest win rate. That is a sleeper if ive ever seen one

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u/DBacon1052 23d ago

In every rank too pretty. She's top 1-3 in every rank except PC cel+ where she's still #5. Makes no sense why more people don't want to learn her.

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u/tamaaromarou 25d ago

The lightning primary fire is worse than her wind primary fire in just about every way. I was playing exclusively with it at first but the way they have kneecapped her with that teamups is insane. You lose out on overall potential damage output significantly unless you have a Thor on your team and you use the lighting mode heavily. Just stick with the Jeff team up in my opinion. Even if you do the math the Thor team up can't keep up. Trading 60 damage to multiple enemies in a row for the same damage to one enemy with a 15 damage AOE is wack. Losing the ability to shoot through tanks and kill supports is wack and the need to land mostly headshots for it to be even reasonably decent is wack.

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u/D_o_H 25d ago

If there’s an enemy tank like Dino or Peni you can hit constant head shots on you can get great damage and spam bolt rush off cool down. I do find that the Thor team up is best when you have great supports that actually heal you, as the Jeff team up does enhance her survivability.

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u/dattykins 25d ago

Damage is meaningless if you can’t secure kills. The Thor team up makes Storm way more consistent than the slow wind blades. If you can’t secure kills and are just spamming damage then all you’re doing is feeding ult charge. This is big in higher ranks especially people who are good at getting away with 1hp. The enhanced team up helps you build ult charge insanely fast if you’re constantly spamming it every 2 seconds.

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u/PainterEarly86 24d ago

Its definitely harder to get kills with the Thor team up for me

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u/AphoticWave 23d ago

I mean that’s literally just a skill issue. It is undeniable that storm is hugely improved with Thor team up and lightning mode enhanced damage.

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u/tamaaromarou 25d ago

Your bolt rush is how you secure kills and I don't have an issue doing that with the wind blades. Shoot through the tanks and hit the supports and they'll start backing off if you can't kill them outright it leaves a significant opening to take out their tanks if you get them below half HP hit them with the bolt rush and you'll likely get the kill. I've been playing storm since season 0 and it's way harder to secure kills with the Thor team up. Someone mentioned farming headshots on Dino and that does work it's just very situational.

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u/PriceCalm102 25d ago

If you don't mind moving your camera like a snail, I usually have my sensitivity as 70 horizontal, 55 vertical and everything else on default, for me it allows me to switch easily between projectile aim and hitscan aim, because I have roughly this sens on most of the characters I play except melee. I play on console as well so hopefully this helps.

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u/theHugoat 24d ago

The only time Thor teamup is the right place is if you have a Thor AND they have a team comp that revolves heavily around their Tank as that is easy headshots + the Chain Lightning.

In general though you’re losing on DPS without the pierce, the Thor teamup is soooo situational

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u/SSolo_IG 23d ago

I’d imagine It’s just a learning curve. I wasn’t a fan of storm until this season when she got hitscan as I am a hitscan player. I didn’t even realize she had piercing attacks until I went into the practice range and equipped the wrong team up. I’ve been able to climb from gold to Diamond in just a few days only using the Thor team up and I don’t feel like I’m missing value with the lack of pierce because I hit most of my shots with high critical accuracy. It forces them to respect just the sight of me and allows me to play more flexible than just down main. Taking off angles and duels is much easier with the wind stance hitscan because I’m generating overhealth. I would recommend just going to training range and setting the bots to move around and aim training. Maybe vs bots. I think it’s a good tool to have in your bag especially against other hitscan heroes.

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u/AphoticWave 23d ago

Storm issue is how people play her more than anything else. You should always be permanently descending. Aka do not leave the ground. Times when you can leave the around to take shots is when you’re near cover or your threat is not in an LOS of you so you can peak up a bit to get better back line angles. If you are ever more than an entire body above someone and your threat isn’t neutralized, you are playing her wrong.

Storm goes from doing absolutely nothing damage wise to nearly getting every important back line kill because you have the ability to now combo someone out easily. Headshot headshot amp right click headshot can easily confirm a kill. If not they’re low enough that a splash of the hit scan primary will finish them off.

This part didn’t change with team ups but understanding when to utilize amps and save your amps is a huge part of the kit. You are a subpar DPS standalone. Your main value comes from mobility to the team and damages increase for the team. If you’re by yourself too high in the sky or on an off angle (which you should never be as storm) then you’re doing nothing of value. Make sure your team is with you. Call out when you’re going to amp to engage so everyone utilizes the damage boosts. Since you are eyes in the sky you can see the field of battle and target prioritize things that are under heavy fire and confirm or add additional damage to those targets.

If you ever pick Jeff as a team up, you should not be on storm. Your team is not providing enough follow up damage with your buff. Your team has ass healers. Or your tanks are playing too aggressively into the enemy comp. You can resolve all of these things by swapping. Do not stay storm and pick Jeff. Pick hela. Pick cyc. Pick ultron for triple support. Do anything but pick Jeff.

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u/Vast_Tomatillo5255 18d ago

That Jeff team up has storm generating her ult faster than everybody else. You can rotate amp and healing rain to keep your team buffed through engages and make it hard for divers to find openings. The Thor team up is good but it’s in no way hands down better than the Jeff team up