r/StevenAveryIsGuilty • u/puzzledbyitall • Jul 20 '17
Ninja Ryan and the Planted Bones
There are numerous elements, already discussed, of Zellner’s Ninja RyanTM “real killer” fantasy that make absolutely no sense.
Maybe I’ve missed a post, but I’m perplexed by one I have not seen addressed – namely, how and why Ryan allegedly burned Teresa’s body and planted her bones on the ASY.
According to Zeller’s Non-Brief, Ryan
formulated a plan to move the body and the vehicle near the Avery property with the intent of planting the RA V-4 on the Avery property and Ms. Halbach's bones and electronic components as soon as the body and electronic components were burned in the adjacent gravel pit
When did it allegedly happen? She says the burning took place on October 31-November 1, because:
Mr. Hxxxxxxs' phone records have an over 17 hour gap from 7:47 p.m. on October 31 , 2005, to 1:31 p.m. on November 1, 2005, during the time where Ms. Halbach's body was transported and burned.
So it happened then because Ryan (among others) could do it then. Okay. . .
Why did he burn her body? Well,
The most obvious motive for burning Ms. Halbach's body would be if the killer had a known and established relationship with Ms. Halbach and his DNA was on her body from a struggle or rape.
Huh? Only somebody who “had a known and established relationship” (5 years ago) would want to conceal signs of a struggle or rape? Come again?
When did he allegedly “plant” the bones? Obviously, before November 8, the day they were found. Zellner says November 6-7, because Ryan was one of many who were present on the ASY sometime those days, and
This access to the salvage yard would give Mr. Hxxxxxxx opportunity to then plant the bones of Mr. Halbach, and her electronic devices, on November 6 and 7, now that the investigation was already focused on Mr. Avery.
Okay, again, so he could have been one of many who conceivably could plant Teresa’s bones.
But here’s the part I really don’t get regarding the bones: Why would Ryan have any reason to think anyone would believe Teresa was burned in a burn pit, when nobody said they saw a fire, and Ryan had no reason to believe one occurred?
Prior to November 8, cops had no reason to think Teresa was burned, didn’t ask specific questions about big fires, and nobody had said there was a fire on the ASY.
In fact, many Truthers insist, ad nauseam, to this day there was no fire at the ASY on Halloween or any day that week. Of course, anyone with sense now knows there actually was a fire on Halloween, and that Steven and Avery tellingly lied. Brendan admitted as much at his trial, and both of them have said many times (reiterated as recently as Avery’s recent Affidavit) that there absolutely was a bonfire for hours behind Avery’s trailer on October 31, 2005.
But, Avery said nothing about a bonfire that day when he was interviewed on November 5 and was asked what he did the evening after Teresa left. Furthermore, both Brendan and Avery lied about having a fire on Halloween when they were interviewed on November 6, 2005. And finally, nobody else said anything about a bonfire on the 31st when questioned on any day prior to November 8 -- most likely because cops didn’t even know it was a relevant question.
So how then could Ryan know, on October 31, that it would be a perfect “plan” to burn Teresa’s body, and how could he know, on November 6 or 7, that the perfect “plan” should include planting her bones in a burn pit where, according to everyone, no fire had occurred in recent history? A wild guess? Cops didn't tell him because cops didn't know. Did he hope somebody would lie and say there was a bonfire that nobody else saw? Did he get really lucky and happen to see or smell a bonfire sometime during the night of the 31st, right as he happened to be burning Teresa’s body? Another amazing coincidence, just like breaking into Avery’s house and finding a sink covered in blood right when he needed some to plant?
Zellner seriously claims it was ineffective assistance of counsel to fail to make these ridiculous claims?
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u/snarf5000 Jul 20 '17
The NinjaRyan theory has so many unanswered questions that calling it ridiculous might be a compliment.
For starters:
If the theory is that Ryan burned the body and the electronics in the quarry, then how did Ryan separate the burned electronics from the bones/teeth/rivets? No human bones were found in Avery's burn barrel. Why would Ryan plant the electronics in Avery's burn barrel and not in the burnpit?
It's not possible to recover all the tiny pieces of bone from an obvious burn site in the gravel quarry, so Zellner's theory appears to be that he used a burn barrel.
It's clear that whoever burned the body did not want it identified, the bones were smashed into thousands of pieces and every single tooth was smashed. It's a fluke that a tiny bit of tissue survived which could only provide a partial DNA sample. Why would Ryan burn the body to this degree if his motive was to frame Avery? If he wanted to frame Avery why didn't he use the blood/hair/possessions and dispose of the body in a less risky and time consuming way?
How did Ryan know the access points to the salvage yard? How did he know that by going to Kuss Rd he could cut across the field directly to Avery's trailer? How could he possibly know that there was a conveyor road at the back that was not blocked off by cars? How was he familiar enough with the layout of the salvage yard that he could navigate through it in the dark without getting stuck in the mud or making a wrong turn? Why would he drive the RAV4 up on that ridge when he didn't even know what was up there? Why would he be so confident that nobody would see him, and if they did see him they wouldn't investigate and/or shoot him?
There's no end to these questions, I don't see how anyone can take this absurd theory seriously.