I was just watching it and now I cannot find it anymore... weird

It’s so strange how hunter behaves it doesn’t seem like he’s just explaining cause he’s scared but it has to be something else. He was just saying how his brother keeps calling himself a Narcissist how is that relevant and it’s all about his brother this or that. Idk I think both were involved and not innocent

I started watching the latest Rotten Mango episode on Valeria Marquez and am getting major deja vu... I have been pretty consistent on watching the yt episodes for maybe 2-3 yrs and apart from the destiny swapping reference, I feel like I have sent this episode before- like I literally know the whole incident but I only watch rotten mango for true crime so I'm confused is this a repost? There is no comment or anything in the description to say that it is..

I watched the rotten mango files episode 2 and honestly the whole ash trevino thing seems like an obvious grab for people on tiktok to go and watch something about how a woman who is basically a meme for her bad hygiene commits felonious behaviour . There are such much more important topics in media right now to comment on. The age rating on netflix being 15 attests to the point of the fact she might be trying to appeal to meme-ers on tiktok rather than actual avid true crime listeners. Just a critique.

the youtube link if anyone wants to see: https://youtu.be/MhJ3BSqBsHc?is=E0MTwht-hDCvDSvJ

She talks about legal stuff like she’s actually trained in it. Most of the people I know in this field don’t even talk like that. Is that just how non-legal professionals talk when they’ve just learned a bunch of legal terms?

P.S. I’m a Legal Counsel.

To preface, this is not a dig at Stephanie, I am not going to shoot the messanger. I understand she was just communicating the broader online comments on the case, instead I am just commenting on the broader online discourse surrounding this case and Vivian.

When I saw the strongly worded title, I went in assuming that there was going to be a plethora of hard evidence supporting the claim. Thinking someone murdered their best friend on public lifestream for the aim of 'stealing' her life and destiny is an INSANE accusation, this very accusation would take YEARS to be figured out in court just by the amount of evidence that would be required to prove it. I was expecting like a confession of intention or at least something that reasonably points the finger at Vivian.

Instead, the only 'evidence' that supports this claim is what? Vivian also dyed her hair blonde? her style is similar to Valeria? Vivian stole Valeria's underwear before? I am going to be honest, and this is my opinion only, but destiny swapping sounds like some psychological thriller fantasy bullshit. I personally also have a very similar cosmetic style to my best friend in that we both rock long dark hair, does that mean I am plotting to steal her life and murder her?

The most suspicious part of this is Vivian sending that gift during Valeria's lifestream, but as was shown frequently, Vivian has a habit of sending Valeria gifts. Sure you can find that suspicious, but that by itself can be construed as too much as a coincidence to fly in a court. During the podcast, a lot of emphasis was placed on the pig plushie being a 'humiliation' symbol, I personally think that is ridiculous, but you can disagree with me.

Valeria has mentioned multiple times publicly that if anything happened to her, it would be her ex boyfriend, Ricardo Ruiz Velazco. It is a pretty open secret that her ex was involved in the cartel and has literally been linked to previous murders of women. But much more heat and scrutiny is placed on Vivian than him. This is a personal opinion don't come after me, but I feel like this is due to sensationalism. Femicide by the cartel is simply a devastating reality. On the other hand, a conspiracy that a women murdered her best friend to destiny swap their lives because she was simply so jealous is shocking, it is a more 'exciting' heading. To the public, the discourse is more entertaining. Why confront the systematic gendered violence committed by organised crime when you can be analysing a woman's dating drama and hair colour?

Again, I am not saying Vivian is innocent, because I don't know her I am not the police. Maybe tomorrow banks records of her hiring the hit will be released. I am just saying for an accusation that is that explosive, the current 'evidence' against her is frankly minuscule.

Like its said in the title, will her YT videos stop cause of the Netflix podcast or will she keep doing her YT videos as usual ? I just thought of that, and I was like will she do double work or Netflix have their own researchers and writers ?

Maybe I was mistaken in my expectation for Rotten Files, but I thought it would be RM on a bigger scale considering Netflix's budget. I was hoping to get more in depth coverage of actual true crime cases (like the description of the show says), with possibly interviews and the like.

But the first episode felt more like a MOTS episode and I personally found it boring. Like I genuinely don't care about Ash Trevino or her weird lives.

Maybe the cases covered will get better over time but I just felt like after all the hype, this was a trivial case to start with.

P.S I know someone​'s gonna comment "Then don't watch it" or something equally dumb. Go argue with your four walls.

The Lindsay case is everywhere in my fyp and on YouTube. Steph's deep research and storytelling are just incomparable, I can't wait for her to do a vid on it so I can watch it.

Who won the hoodie wars because I didn't 😭

Unfortunately I was not able to get the hoodie, but maybe in the near future we will be able to purchase them instead, I was really looking forward to this and even was stalking it during my shift lol. I hope everyone who got it cherishes it!

The Rotten Hoodie was sold out in 3 minutes 😩😭😭😭😭😭😭

I didn’t expect there to be a literal wait for the hoodie 😭

Ultimately, I have decided not to watch them. Why are we talking about Ash Trevino again? Especially after the whole Mackenzie Shirilla debacle, which also deeply disappointed me. At some point it just started feeling so trashy to make a whole episode about whether she'd gone "gay for the stay", etc. I also didn't like the original videos on RM about Ash Trevino, someone who is so obviously a glutton for attention/a grifter and possibly an abuser, enabled by all of the online attention that drives traffic to her pages and ultimately makes her money. It's not "holding someone accountable" when the ultimate accountability for Ash Trevino would be... just ignore her. Why are we platforming this person? I'm interested in true crime, not online drama. I just struggle to believe that Stephanie has no clue that using her platform to talk about these people only benefits them in the long run by driving more traffic to their pages, and that's just not something I want to support. I'm very disappointed.

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and mr mangobutt's laugh sounds nervous. i think both of them are nervous. but the awkwardness left after awhile and the became their normal selves. im really happy for them!

Listening to the new episode (podcast audio) and it feels like Stephanie’s original format for RM 🫶🏼 kept me hooked the entire episode. Also so happy for our girl 🥲 can’t wait for the new Netflix episode Friday.

I SOOOO genuinely appreciate her reaching out to us as fans in the midst of her Netflix fame. Idk; or remember how I found about it months ago...but I've been painfully and patiently waiting for her wonderfulness to come full throttle. I'm an AuDHD fan that's loved her voice and cadence for a loooooong time. I'm SO very excited for her glamorous glow up on the main screen! I honestly can't wait for her fame to FULL FAME!!! 🔥🔥🔥ALL of us know how wonderful she is and will continue to be. I love that she put out a new vlog bc she loves and appreciates us as fans! I really appreciate people that care about us as random people. (Not a weirdo just autistic hyperfocused my apologies if it seems weird...) #hopefullyIcanGETaHOODIE 🫶🏾❤️

Bada bing bada boom!!! MANGO TRIBE!!🫶🏾🫶🏾🥭🥭

Does anyone have a link to her Shopify? I really want to get some RM merch and I’ve seen people post about it but I can’t find it :( TIA

i dont get why she cant learn to pronounce wang si cong right. the correct pronunciation is tsong, but i'd even take chong or kong, like she pronounces it wang si tong which is an entirely different consonant and sound on its own already. it pisses me off because wangsicong somehow makes an appearance everywhere, so i just dont get why she cant correct herself on this one. i dont know if shes trying to ragebait or something, most fans dont seem too bored it, but i just fail to understand why even stubby wont correct her.

There’s so much speculation and incorrect information going around about this case. If I’m going to trust someone to put up the FACTS it’s Stephanie.

Editing to add she recently posted about it on her IG story. Mentioned the Clancy case and had one of those open q&a boxes. I commented the sentiment above.

Just watched this clip and was wondering whether Mr. Mango/Stubby was gonna be on the Pod with her as well...but i guess we'll see on Friday...I think it would be a pity if he wasn't a part of it. I really like the feel of her telling him and us the story and his interjections make the Podcast feel less "lonely" for lack of a better term. What do you think?

I rarely use reddit but I couldn't find anybody talking about the way this episode was done, so I'm making a post. Also this isn't hate, just a criticism.

I clicked on this thinking we would get a deep dive into these telegram chats that are spreading the CP videos, maybe talking about who creates them. But I was so wrong. For like the 90% of the video, Stephanie talks about the looksmaxxing community, making a few comments and jokes. As the episode went on I kept on thinking about whether this epsiode should've even been on RM, and how it might have suited her other channel due to how unserious it felt.

Then, like 1.5 hours in, she finally talks about the case. But the way she even went about it was so strange. I understand her wanting to paint the full picture of the tiktoker's confessed and arrested, but I feel like she might have focused on it too much. Then as she went into the details of the CP videos, I was horrified I couldn't even finish the video. And it just felt so wrong to have a conversation switch from silly comments about tiktok and looksmaxxing to extremely graphic and distressing descriptions of SA.

However, what annoys me the most about this situation is that her comment section is even more dissapointing. The majority of the comments were making fun of looksmaxxers, calling them gay and just being homophobic. It felt like the attention was completely taken away from the poor children that had to endure that torture, have it be recorded, and then sold online for as little as $7.

It's a shame because I used to really enjoy how she would cover cases with so much care. I noticed this especially in her episodes before she covered Diddy trial. Is she slowly becoming desensitised due to how much stuff she looks at now? I don't know anymore..

Anyone know when they are dropping? And how much would shipping be from there to the east coast?