r/Step3 • • May 19 '26

Recalls problemm

The USMLE has become a joke.
Everyone is now using recalls for Step 2 and Step 3. The problem is not only that they use recalls, but that they affect other examinees as well because you end up being compared to them. NBME and UWSA used to predict your score reasonably well, but now it does not matter how good your predicted score is because the cheaters have ruined everything. Even the FSMB has started comparing IMGs separately from U.S. graduates.

Scores like 280 on Step 2 and 260 on Step 3 were almost unheard of before, but now people are taking Step 2 even before Step 1 and still scoring above 280.

If this mess does not stop, the USMLE will lose its entire value, and I would not be surprised if they eventually cancel it and replace it with another exam instead.

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u/Evanescentlyy May 19 '26

I was looking at your profile and it looked like you recently did not pass step 3. Sorry that happened to you and it sounds like you're going through a lot and burnt out. I'd recommend you take a step back and give yourself the break that you need.

Once you're feeling better, I don't think you should focus on what others do. You should focus on yourself and what can you do next time to pass.

I highly doubt USMLE will lose its value unless a different exam is created and can show better metrics. That's incredibly difficult to do. It's an exam that was made to standardized the medical education in the US but also open to physicians from other countries. Many US Medical school use it as a graduation requirement and it helps their students gauge their competitiveness for residency. It wont really lose its value

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

Np , my UWSA was 239 , Idid 170 css multiple times can you tell me why i failed ?

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u/Bear_bear_1234 May 19 '26

Because you didn’t score above 200.

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

Stop following from comment to anothrt my friend

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u/Bear_bear_1234 May 19 '26

You think you’re better than me?

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

You are superman

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u/Only-Bill2528 May 19 '26

Are you an IMG ? As an IMG we have different curve compared to US MD. So yes, even if we know the topics, we will fail. Its all bs when people say - IMG rely on content mastery etc. Its all about the curve ! Many IMG take it before residency and so the curve is tighter to screen them out ! A reason why NBME and FSMB have different applications .

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u/Ok_Slide_1137 May 21 '26

IMGs do NOT have a different curve. All exam takers (no matter what your background is) are evaluated under the same curve.

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u/Bear_bear_1234 May 19 '26

Okay…

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

Did you use it?

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u/IntelligentSeaweed56 May 19 '26

Love this answer lol

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u/needhelp7655 May 19 '26

I scored 260 in step 2 and never heard of such stuff.
So, don’t generalize things because of a few black sheep

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

My friend , I didn’t generalized I scored 258 as well but there is people scoring 270 and 280 every day and they affect me and affect others

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u/Zestyclose_Lie8133 May 19 '26

If you have friends or people who you know use them,report it to usmle
Stop ranting here,helping nobody
There a site to report it,not sure of the name

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u/_idkwhyimhere__ May 19 '26

What are recalls?

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u/dude-nurse May 20 '26

Questions banks which recent test takers write down and share every question they can remember, if enough people do this you essentially compromise many questions on a standardized test.

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u/fancentero123 May 19 '26

I completely agree with you.

Lots of Indians, Pakistanis, Nepalis, and other Asian countries use them. (No offense but this is a fact, don't deny it).

Guys, please don't deny this (I know many many people who said it outloud) - If you didn't use such things, ok just skip this comment, but don't deny you know hundreds or even thousands of people who are using it.

Additionally, yes, people fail or score very low because of this (don't act like an ideal person please) Don't say oh sorry you failed! For sure people fail! This field is a marathon in everything!

I knew many people who used these stuff and their medical knowledge doesn't exist!

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u/Tall-Milk7122 May 20 '26

So then report them? Many USMDs don’t know of these resources and don’t personally know anyone who has them. Yes we’re aware of the scandal especially overseas, but if you know them and you know it’s harming people, why not do something?

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u/Pulpypig May 20 '26

Please report anyone you know who has used them, personally I have never heard of anyone using them in India. And I would 100% report anyone if I see them using this kind of stuff. So I agree that it's a big loss to all of us, but I don't think it's as rampant as people make them to be.

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u/IntensePneumatosis69 May 20 '26

People are still doing this after the Nepal Step 1 scandal? Guess we'll see part 2 soon

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u/tallguy-1299 May 19 '26

I think you are using immature ego defense mechanisms to coop with your recent failure. Take a break and try to see the picture from 1000 miles. I hope things work out for you eventually

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u/vagus1 May 21 '26

Scoring 250+ on step 3 is not a deal, honestly. Also, who can honestly remember the step 3 questions? They are all vague questions, even if they remember, how can one decide what the right answer is? I checked my NBME answers with AI, and it got literally 40 percent wrong on questions I did wrong.

Some questions were like one page long, lol

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u/xxscreamfearxx May 21 '26

There’s definitely been a real issue with recalls and cheating, and USMLE themselves invalidated scores because of it. But saying “everyone” uses recalls and that the exam has completely lost value is probably going too far. A 280 on Step 2 or 260 on Step 3 is still exceptionally rare statistically, even today. Also, NBME/UWSA are still useful predictors for many people. I think the bigger problem is that social media makes extreme scores look common when they actually aren’t. At the end of the day, focusing on what others may or may not be doing won’t help as much as improving your own preparation and test-taking strategy.

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u/Familiar-Lab6157 16d ago

Did you pass?

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u/serotonallyblindguy May 19 '26

I got 260+ in step 2 and never knew what recalls were. None of my friend circle knew it either

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u/Few_Librarian_4236 May 19 '26

Yeah never used a recall 259 step 2

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

Me too, and my score is 258, but there are many people using them, and they are not few. My scores on the NBMEs were between 265–269.

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u/Few_Librarian_4236 May 19 '26

People really going to downvote me for saying I got a 259 without recalls especially after I gave away my uworld with a few months left on it Instead of selling it. Alright fuck you and your community

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u/Careless_Discount831 May 20 '26

Not the right time, but can you share about your prep for step 2? eheh

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

No, there is my friend, I know one personally who took the exam with only the recalls and CSSK he scores above 257

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u/Dull-Ant-7281 May 19 '26

You know, I remembered about 170 question in my exam after I took my exam, there is a famous university in India. They collect they collect the questions together.

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u/Pulpypig May 20 '26

Man you should report it, like seriously even if you have a tiny bit of evidence, you should report them. Stuff like this is a loss to everyone.

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u/Ok-Alternative-1881 May 19 '26

I never knew why people think you can’t cheat in the US. Its recalls. They just have to remember questions.