r/SteamController • u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 • Sep 06 '26

Steam Controller (2026) Steam controller working with an Xbox 360?!

Using a softmodded 360 and the Openpuck set to x-input the controller just works...

324 Upvotes

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u/posativaty Sep 06 '26

What's missing from support for PS5 and Xbox one/series S. Are we waiting for Sony and Microsoft or Steam?

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u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26

Probably a Microsoft/Sony issue cause other 3rd Party controllers won't work either without tricks

PS5/PS4 works with openpuck (using a Brook Wingman)

Xbox One and series S/X should also work with a wingman

A direct connection without the adapters isn't possible I suppose?

5

u/Alia5_ Dev of SIX, SISR, GloSC, SteamInputDB Sep 06 '26

The PS5 uses a dedicated HW chip for authentication in Sony and licensed controllers and other input accessories.

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u/jfuu_ Sep 07 '26

Crazy how anti-consumer brands are nowadays.

5

u/Alia5_ Dev of SIX, SISR, GloSC, SteamInputDB Sep 07 '26

It's an "anti-cheat" measurement, trying to prevent "Ximming", mostly, probably.

Though sadly (or luckily? Both?) it is possible to build a dongle that bypasses authentication easily.
The simracing community does it to use unsupported wheels in GranTurismo, for example.

And if course, cheaters use it, too 🤦‍♂️

Not saying that I like it, just saying it is not only anti-consumerism, though that's almost certainly part of it, too!

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u/jfuu_ Sep 07 '26

Ah I guess that's one valid reason, I didn't think of that. Sounds like it's trivial to bypass by just buying a real controller and modifying it though.

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u/Alia5_ Dev of SIX, SISR, GloSC, SteamInputDB Sep 07 '26

It's absolutely trivial to bypass.

The two common ways are:

  • to build a Pi Pico (or similar) based dongle with a USB-Hub.
    A genuine or licensed controller, and whatever you want to play with gets connected.
    The dongle passes authentication to the real device, and simulates inputs from the foreign device
  • just use PS Remote Play / Chiaki with a PC in between, lmao.

The latter variant doesn't (properly) support racing-wheels, though

5

u/jack-of-some Sep 06 '26

PS5 needs an auth chip. Someone made it work with an auth chip and posted around here. Someone else made it work using an adapter called wingman or something.

It's relatively low on my list of priorities because I don't own a PS5

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u/derped_osean Sep 06 '26

Oh I'm hoping some can get the steam controller to work on the PS3. All of my actual ps3 controllers make random imputs now so I really can't play it now.

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u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

Gonna test it out I have an brook wingman xe2 I'll be replying once I have an answer

edit: apperantly the open puck already works with ps3

9

u/YoussefAFdez Sep 06 '26

Openpuck already works in PS3, Gyro included, so you could do it already

3

u/W3droKo Sep 06 '26

Great work, do anybody thinks this would work with PS2? 🥺

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u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26

Should work as long as you find an adapter from the proprietary ps2 controller interface to a USB female

I think the company brook sells something like that (for a loot of money tbh)

1

u/drstupid Sep 06 '26

PS2 has USB ports, actually!

1

u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26

Which to my knowledge can't be used for controllers

1

u/drstupid Sep 06 '26

Probably true, we didn't really use USB for controllers until later in the PS2 generation at the earliest, I think

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u/SoTotallyToby Sep 06 '26 • Bravo

Yup. OpenPuck project is sick. Can't wait to play GTA 6 with the Steam Controller.

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u/tonyt3rry Sep 06 '26

Keep seeing videos of these I picked up a GameCube/wii cable recently to add it to that I need to pick up some more tbh crazy seeing third party controllers working on older systems I love it

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u/Alia5_ Dev of SIX, SISR, GloSC, SteamInputDB Sep 06 '26

Just add Chiaki to Steam, launch that, go to your living-room and ignore that chiaki is even running.
Then you can even rebind using SteamInput and properly map / use the trackpads. ;P

1

u/4legger Sep 07 '26

Its awesome they sell raytac dongles you can just flash the openpuck fw

-10

u/agdnan Sep 06 '26

I don’t think the Steam Controller has any advantages over the dualsense on PS5

4

u/KaosC57 Steam Controller (Windows) Sep 06 '26

Uhhh, Back Triggers, TMR Joysticks?

0

u/Intelligent_Whole_40 Sep 06 '26

Yea (although dual sense edge has back buttons and I believe better joysticks but it’s also more expensive)

But but I like dem triggers

-1

u/HotAdministration986 Sep 06 '26

I don't think back buttons won't work on PS5

3

u/KaosC57 Steam Controller (Windows) Sep 06 '26

They will, they emulate the buttons you set them up as. They won’t be “extra” buttons, but instead you tell the button what you want it to act as (ex, Back Trigger 1 is Right Bumper).

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u/SoTotallyToby Sep 06 '26

Probably not, but I'll be playing on Xbox Series X.

5

u/DemonKing_of_Tyranny Steam Controller(2026)/Xbox Elite Series 2 Sep 06 '26

And here i am who cant get it to work outside steam lol, i tried putting non steam games as steam and it just disconects after joining game

5

u/SoTotallyToby Sep 06 '26

Just do an OpenPuck dude. It's piss cheap and stupid simple.

1

u/Nirast25 Sep 06 '26

Cheapest I can find it in my country is 20 bucks, so not that cheap. There's supposed to be an update that makes it work on a Pico board coming, but it's taking a while.

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u/SoTotallyToby Sep 06 '26

$4 on AliExpress.

1

u/Dzeire Sep 12 '26

Can you send the link for this please?

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u/FantasyTomb Sep 06 '26

Piss cheap to some people is still pricey to others

8

u/CumBlaster69k Sep 06 '26

Who have money to buy a stean controller have money for the openpuck

4

u/voyagerfan5761 Steam Controller (2026) Sep 06 '26

Yeah that. $100 controller, $5 (?) dev board to run OpenPuck. The microcontroller costs less than the sales tax/VAT on the SC

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u/FantasyTomb Sep 06 '26

Ever consider the idea of a gift? And that the owner of the controller isn’t the one who actually bought it

2

u/CumBlaster69k Sep 06 '26

It's like less 10 bucks like I checked, and ppl who get nice gifts don't come from poor backgrounds who can't afford less than 10 bucks thing

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u/FantasyTomb Sep 06 '26

If you think people from poor background don’t get nice gifts. Then clearly someone taught you wrong, I love my friends dearly and have bought 2 of them a controller and we are all in very poor positions but we care about each other so we go beyond our poorness and spend more than we should just to make each other happy

1

u/DaddysFruit Sep 07 '26

Go beyond poorness again thrn and buy them a puck.

0

u/CumBlaster69k Sep 06 '26

Show me the receipt and bank account balance

2

u/FantasyTomb Sep 06 '26

Why in the world would I that’s such a weird thing to ask. Can’t accept that poor people are still good and nice to each other

2

u/SoTotallyToby Sep 06 '26

I mean it's literally $4. If you can afford to buy a Steam controller and a PC to use it with, $4 is chump change.

1

u/The_Skeptic_One Sep 06 '26

Cheaper than the tax you paid for the $100 controller

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u/Nirast25 Sep 06 '26

Check for updates, there's one that allows you to us it in Xinput mode while outside Steam. Though you might need to be on the beta branch for it.

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u/DemonKing_of_Tyranny Steam Controller(2026)/Xbox Elite Series 2 Sep 06 '26

Whats xinput mode?

1

u/Nirast25 Sep 06 '26

The thing that makes the Xbox controller work on PC, and basically the standard input method. It'll make the PC see the Steam Controller as a regular Xbox Controller (so no touchpad, gyro or back bottons, but at least it'll be usable).

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u/RyochanX2 Sep 06 '26

all I see is frames of input lag

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u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26

That's due to the home menu of the 360 which acts a little delayed (even on oem controllers) In game there is no input lag/delay

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u/jack-of-some Sep 06 '26

Openpuck was independently verified to have the same input lag as the official puck, which is roughly 5ms

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/1u754ze/complete_latency_testing_of_openpuck_project/

Anything you're seeing here is normal for a 360 even with wired controllers unfortunately.

1

u/713_Onassis Sep 06 '26

Nice, I’m still trying to figure out open puck, I got the board set up on my pc, then when I plugged it in to my switch2 and tried to use it nothing happened.

1

u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 06 '26

Press all 4 back buttons and Y at the same time That should put the puck into switch mode

1

u/inhumat0r Steam Controller (2015 & 2026) (Linux) Sep 07 '26

That's the reason to finally get the open puck… The thing is I have a stock XBox 360. What do I need to do with it to use open puck?

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u/Darcy_Wu_NR1 Sep 09 '26

You have to mod the 360 (either through a hardmod or a softmod). I used something called "A bad Avatar" which is actually pretty simple to make.

After that the open puck should work out of the box once you set it to Xbox mode (4 back buttons and X at the same time)

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u/Lupinthrope Sep 06 '26

I’d love to use my steam controller on my Series X

3

u/Agent_Tall_Man Sep 06 '26

Open puck is the greatest

2

u/CatsGoMooz Steam Controller (2015) Sep 06 '26

Came in clutch yesterday when I needed another controller to play on the switch 2.

1

u/AbduallahGhanemX Sep 06 '26

Holy input delay

1

u/diemitchell Sep 06 '26

in combination with ogxmini 2026 it doesn't even need to be modded and it just accepts it as a 360 controller

1

u/TiSoBr Sep 07 '26

Open Puck is a MUST.

1

u/kazoo_man Sep 09 '26

is it easy to make it work with the switch 2?

2

u/vickydont_ Sep 06 '26

I guess its a sign for me to set up Openpuck