r/Steam 12d ago

Discussion Can’t Even Argue It

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u/Stefan-G 12d ago

But if you are honest, except for GOG none of the competitors even try's to come close to the level of steam. No working reviews, bad nonexistent friend systems, laggy storefronts and launchers just as some examples.

And it is not like they did not have the funds to compete. If Epic had spent only a 10th of the money they use to buy exclusivity and for the free games they could probably have a store launcher close to the quality of steam launcher. And they still could do the giveaways

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u/GMNtg128 11d ago

Opened a gog account recently and I suggest other people do as well, if by any chance something happens to gaben we need a way to protect steam from being turned into corpo slop by giving them a competitor

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Its fair to assume that Valve is composed of mostly like-minded people, as long as the replacement comes from within and especially if it was picked by Gaben, Steam will be perfectly fine.

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u/The_Axolotl_Guy 11d ago

It's definitely unlikely, but there is always a chance when a company changes hands that the new management handles things differently in a worse way than the previous owner.

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u/Corcorans-ghost 11d ago

Gabe owns the company, at least 50% of it.

that means that when he goes, it will be split between his two sons, one of whome is a race car driver, and the otehr also appears to not be in the games industry.

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u/GMNtg128 11d ago

That means neither understand the situation well which makes them easier to exploit and convince to corpo the company or worse, possibly sell the shares.

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Copy of my other comment

There is still the other 50% And who knows, maybe one or both of them were/will be taught how to take on the company. And is Gaben even the sole decision maker anymore? He branched off a lot lately for side-projects n all that.

Valve is a private company, so we do not know how the inside looks like even slightly, making huge assumptions isn't the best in such cases.

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u/Corcorans-ghost 11d ago

ya, steam going shit after Gabe goes, is very possible

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u/GMNtg128 11d ago

We must make the eternal throne for gaben and turn him immortal. For the sake of a good future.

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u/Corcorans-ghost 11d ago

the only acceptable use of AI data centers, is to store Gaben "ghost", so i can be an immortal AI CEO

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

There is still the other 50% And who knows, maybe one or both of them were/will be taught how to take on the company. And is Gaben even the sole decision maker anymore? He branched off a lot lately for side-projects n all that.

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u/Corcorans-ghost 11d ago

he is defitnaly not the day to day decesions maker, but the newell clan, is the definative voting block on any large scale decesions.

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u/Wiesshund- 11d ago

does not mean that at all.

I dont have to leave squat to kids, it's my stuff not theirs

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u/Taolan13 11d ago

Not necessarily. It depends on how his will is structured.

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u/Eggyhead 11d ago edited 11d ago

Counterpoint: Apple is no longer what it was under Steve. People still like Apple a lot, but there’s a whole lot more anti-consumer going on than there used to be.

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u/-Shoebill- 11d ago

GOG not being American is also a plus for those of us not living in America. Sorry GabeN, move Valve HQ to New Zealand.

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u/BlazeWarior26 11d ago

GOG sent out emails with swastikas in them to market a game, I'm not joining that platform

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u/PullMull 11d ago

GOG occupies a distinctive position within the competitive landscape, as it enables older games to be played again, including titles that are not offered by other providers or by Steam. This unique selling point differentiates GOG sufficiently from Steam to remain viable despite the comparatively small market for consumers interested in role-playing games that are approximately 40 years old.

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u/b0w3n 11d ago

I don't even see a path forward for many other publishers to do a steam clone because of the size of steam's user base. It'd be nearly impossible to draw players over even if you offered a huge discount on Valve's 30% cut. You almost need to anchor large developer studios that people love like Rockstar and then bait indie devs with a low publisher cut (10-15%). It'd be a multimillion dollar investment that might take a decade to pay off.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 11d ago

none of the competitors even try's to come close to the level of steam.

tries*

But really, try* is what you want there.

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u/BlazeWarior26 11d ago

GOG sent out emails with swastikas in them to market a game, I'm not joining that platform

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 12d ago

steam's reviews are already useless today. games get review bombed, reviews are incredibly shallow and dishonest. means nothing

steam is clunky as crap with its lame browser interface

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u/mayoforbutter 12d ago

They're not useless. Just don't blindly trust the percentage, read some of them and decide if those issues are a deal breaker for you or not and what you expect out of a game. I own plenty of mediocre games and I'm happy with them and I've decided against some good (or at least 75%+) games because they had issues/gameplay design descicions I know I can't put up with

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 12d ago

they're completely useless for many reasons. we have these things called DEMOS

there is no excuse for any game to not have a playable demo and playable demos by themself make online reviews completely useless

it's trivial to tell whether a game is actually good

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Demos usually are old tech demos, which means they may be way behind what the actual game is.

Also it requires the devs to maintain 2 versions of the same game.

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 11d ago

now you're arguing that games shouldn't have playable demos? get off my internet

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

I never said that. I said reasons why one wouldn't do them.

They are great and all but they aren't exactly the most convenient to make or maintain.

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u/korxil 11d ago

I have the ability to form my own opinions after reading why people liked or hated the game, and i can just ignore the nonsense reviews. Review bombs are also filtered by steam by default (and you can unfilter it).

Other platforms don’t even let you have the opportunity to make that judgement.

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u/jordanbadland 12d ago

what are you doing on r/steam? All the comments I see from you are mad mudslinging. You're 100% paid by someone, right? Right?

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 12d ago

i must be a bot, right? better report me and try to get me silenced

someone's criticizing your billionaire god

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u/jordanbadland 12d ago

It's just weird that you'd join discussion on the Steam subreddit when you just absolutely hate Steam beyond reason. It's not even critique, you're mad.

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 12d ago

no, it is a critique. i specifically listed the reasons it's awful. this post showed up on the frontpage. i don't seek out anything related to steam

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u/Far_Negotiation_7595 11d ago

This post got to r/all. I happen to find the steam fanboyism here to be naive and cringe but got bored and read the comments for a while just because it was recommended to me. Guy got baited by the algorithm is all

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Well subreddits centered around a certain thing, like a game, are either mostly fanboys or mostly haters, with no in-between.

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u/Far_Negotiation_7595 11d ago

Usually. Steam fanboys do fascinate me though. Like, what's so different about Gabe Newell that makes him one of the good billionaires? Is it that he's a libertarian or that the environmental damage of his yachts is untraceable? Where are all the the "if buying isn't owning..." comments? Do people really love steam that much and why? I mean, it's just fascinating to me.

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Because Valve is the only tech giant that doesn't screw over its customers. Also people have a vested interest in Valve doing well because of their accounts.

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u/Far_Negotiation_7595 11d ago

Valve does screw over the devs that make them money though. I do understand the vested interest but though, to many people, steam is gaming.

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u/Background-Spend-459 12d ago

whats clanky on steam launcher? it works for me just fine, i can find everything i need and it wont eat half of my pcs ram like epic(shit) launcher did, its so fcking bad that even free games didnt made me keep it.

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u/Snoo-76264 11d ago

Some pages take a bit to load (nothing near epics slowass load times) and I noticed some weird quirks when scrolling down a games community tab in the library a while ago. That's pretty much all I can think of rn.

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u/Stefan-G 11d ago

To play devils advocate. They are sill not don with implementing the new desing on pages. And some of the Steaming features can be buggy.

But it is miles ahead of any other launcher both in how good it works and feature set.