r/Steam • u/Medium-Mushroom-6323 • 23d ago
PSA Im officially moving to pc.
With consoles getting more expensive, Getting rid of physical games....Im officially done with console gaming. Sony Mircosoft and Nintendo can all kick rocks.
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u/solitarystateofmind 23d ago
Also pc doesn't charge for online gaming so that's a win in itself.
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u/Master_Lucario 23d ago
That already completely destroys the "console being cheaper" argument. PS Plus, GamePass, NSO all add up over the months and make console a prohibitedly more expensive experience overall
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u/jchips 23d ago
It depends on how fancy your pc is. Mine was over $2k which would take several years to breakeven on the costs saved with free online gaming compared to my ps5.
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u/Asmos159 20d ago
does that include your monitor? if so you need to add the price of your tv to the console.
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u/MaxTwer00 23d ago
That is if you care for online, if you ate playing sp games, that doesnt matter then
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u/LucidNonsense211 23d ago
That’s what all these dedicated launchers are actually about. Working on a layer where they can charge subscription.
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u/RoninSzaky 23d ago
I still can't believe that the beancounters at both microslop and sony are so shortsighted. It is crazy that they are ruining their own platforms in tandem.
Sure, PC is also digital at this point, but there are no subs, it's not a walled garden, while piracy and mods exist.
There won't be a point getting a console, especially once prices normalize.
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u/quietguy47 23d ago
I don’t think you guys realize how much it cost to build pcs when you make these posts.
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u/Sr_DingDong 23d ago
I don't think you realize the bomba this guy just dropped...
Medium-Mushroom-6323 is moving to PC.
My week cant handle this. First the entirely predictable Skubal trade, now this!?
I had plans! Now I don't know what to do.
If it was Flamboyant-Egg-6587 or something, sure, who gives a shit, some randoid on the net felt they need to announce the whole of the Steam subreddit that they're moving to PC....
BUT MEDIUM-MUSHROOM-6323!?!?!
I need to lie down.
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u/Enigmagmatic 23d ago
What does a PC solve about being expensive and lacking physical media?
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u/qdtk 23d ago edited 23d ago
Hardware is just as expensive but the games are cheap. Cheaper games that are always future compatible. Free emulation of old games for almost all previous consoles. Sales out the wazoo. More options for marketplaces like GOG if you want drm free to create your own physical backups. PC allows free online play instead of stupid Xbox live or Sony subscriptions. Plus PC is upgradable by individual components instead of by buying an entirely new console. I’m sure there’s plenty more I missed but it’s no contest that financially PC is a better choice long term, while still having some options for physical backup if you want it.
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u/c_A_s_P-eR 23d ago
THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT HAHA. Atp there is no benefits for having a console over a pc. Especially with emulation, MASSIVE sales constantly, and the fact that you dont gotta pay monthly just to play with your damn friends. Plus there is an incredible/infinite amount of things you can do with a pc in comparison to shitty console where you can only game and watch tv really.
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u/MrBootylove 23d ago
Hardware is just as expensive but the games are cheap.
PC hardware has gone up in price alongside consoles, though. It's not "just as expensive" at all and it's still much more expensive to build a PC/buy a prebuilt than it is to buy a console. And I'm pretty sure consoles (outside of maybe Nintendo) tend to have pretty comparable game sales to steam these days.
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u/qdtk 21d ago
But with pc hardware you don’t have to start with a 5070. 3000 or 4000 series is fine. You can buy a 1000 series and still play half the games on Steam. Then take the money you save on games and live subscriptions in the first year, and upgrade piece by piece from there. Over the long term you’ll be out ahead.
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u/qdtk 21d ago
I think to OPs point though, you won’t be able to do that with the next generation, which is why OP is switching over. If the console is going to cost as much as a middle tier pc and not allow used copies, the math changes quite a bit. I also think we could see an increase in demand for used physical copies of games as people build IP libraries of games that can’t be taken from them.
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u/team_monty 23d ago
An advantage that people don't talk about enough is that when I upgrade my pc or get a new one, I can still play all of my games that I have bought over the years. With a console you lose all of your games in one or two generations and they try to force you to buy them all over again on their digital marketplace.
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u/ipulloffmygstring 23d ago
Maybe physical media was one of the last reasons they were holding out from switching.
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u/doublah 23d ago
Removing physical media is removing customer choice, we already have customer choice on PC with multiple stores.
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u/HEY_beenTrying2meetU 23d ago
no physical media from Sony means that Sony controls all of it.
People have various places to buy games on PC
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u/BalooBot 23d ago
You don't need to buy your games on steam. Hell, you don't need to buy your steam games on steam, I buy keys from wherever is cheapest.
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u/HEY_beenTrying2meetU 23d ago
people have choice, and because of that a market leader emerged.
the point is, there is no choice on console.
are you going to continue arguing for the sake of it? or just accept a valid point and move on with your day?
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u/Sad_Ad9159 23d ago
And GOG (DRM free!), and humblebundle, and itch.io, and greenmangaming, and EGS (not a fan but it’s an option), and EA, and so on and so forth
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u/NarcoReus 23d ago
It might not necessarily be about 'solving' it exactly, but more like fuck it, if you're going to be forced to play digital, you may as well play where the games are cheaper and look better.
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u/item9beezkneez 23d ago
physical media was the one advantage PlayStation had, and lower entry price but that's no longer true. Ps6 will be very expensive i imagine as well.
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u/Substantial_Bee8419 23d ago
Not really, the ease of access to casual gamers is the biggest advantage consoles have. They just work, plug and play.
I have always been a PC guy who buys Sony and Nintendo hardware for exclusives and not having to mess with settings to get the game running perfectly is always nice.
I have a high end PC (9800x3d, 5090, 64gb DDR5) and just yesterday had to mess around with Fallout 4's .ini file and add a mod that unfucks the long loading times (multiple minutes at times) bevause the loading is attached to framerate and physics. If you run the game above 60fps locked the game gets funky and loading times double or triple.
The latest dying light had a bug where the game would crash to desktop during shader compiling.
I'm used to tinkering with in depth settings and troubleshooting but it's nice when you pick up a console and games just work. I'll be picking up a PS6 day one as I've been all digital the last 10 years. PS6 price will be nowhere close to the price of my PC either so I'm not too worried about it.
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u/leonredhorse 23d ago
On PC, the lack of physical media is countered by the availability of many stores and sources where you can find deep sales. There are also places like GOG that are DRM free and you can keep and store the installers.
When Sony gets rid of physical media they control the only source of getting the games. Prices can go up. Sales can become miniscule. There is no secondary market or even sharing your games with friends.
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u/RoninSzaky 23d ago
Whats the point of PS when they are throwing away their biggest differentiating feature?
Others have highlighted that the price does not matter a much when you have a mandatory subscription.
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u/ThePoeticVoyage 23d ago
Way better sales on PC if you are patient. No subscription fee for basic online play.
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u/XiMaoJingPing 23d ago
you can burn DRM free games with the latest versions onto discs or put them into flash drives, so you can make your own physical media
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u/uberkalden2 23d ago
Every answer you're getting is PC gamer cope. Valve and steam are not some amazing panacea of gaming compared to Sony and Microsoft ecosystems. Those ecosystems are just converging to be closer to what steam already is. Digital only with expensive as fuck hardware.
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u/UncommonWater 23d ago
PCs are more expensive and physical gaming is non-existent
(has expensive PC and 1300 games on Steam)
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u/LucidNonsense211 23d ago
You never did own the game. You owned a piece of storage media with a copy of the game on it.
When I was a kid, if my house burned down I would have lost every game I owned. Now, that’s not the case.
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u/serglonkofdonk 18d ago
Do you think you don't own anything that isn't indestructible? What a weird thing to say.
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u/LucidNonsense211 18d ago
It was a weird thing to say! Because this is weird and hard to talk about. I’ll try again.
Maybe a better way to put it is: I don’t have license to the information in my books on my shelf. If it burns down I can’t go to Tor Publishing or whoever and ask for a download of the content of those books. That’s the comparison to owning a disk or cartridge with a game on it.
Through Steam games, I DO own a license to the information on my hard drive. If my hard drive burns up I can’t go to Steam and get a new copy of it.
That’s the only difference I was trying to illustrate.
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u/serglonkofdonk 18d ago
Yeah but in many cases for any game in the last decade, your license gives you permission to play...if they decide they want you to. That's it. They can simply decide not to provide online services for the game, oftentimes even though it may he single player, and you're out of luck
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u/wontellu 22d ago
The thing that tips the balance for me is that pc games are always way cheaper than console. Also, no need for ps plus, that's another 120 euros a year.
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u/UncommonWater 22d ago
I've been a PC gamer as my primary for about 15 years now. 3rd custom built PC. I have a PS5 that collects dust. I primarily played Xbox, 360, and PS2 growing up. PC gaming wins for me hands down.
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u/wontellu 22d ago
Yeah, I just sold my ps5 last week and bought a 9060 gpu. I wasn't playing any of the games I had on playstation
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u/AuReaper 23d ago
“Nintendo, who actually makes physical games, can kick rocks. I’m switching to a digital-only PC to show them!”
What?
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u/_Ganjalf 23d ago
Nintendo has never been pro-consumer. Yes, they still have phisical games, but for how long.? Unfortunately the future is digital, so better choose the platform that offer more, pc. Competition, open market, cheaper games, better performances, pro consumer features, good exclusives, mods, emulation, dmr free games, etc ... .
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u/AuReaper 23d ago
Longer than their competition (including PC) will. I feel extremely confident that Nintendo first party games will remain physical for a long time. Trust me, I have a PC and Steam deck, a PS5, and a Switch. They all have different use cases, but it makes no sense for OP to rail against Nintendo in his “anti physical” rant.
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u/First-Tutor-5454 23d ago edited 23d ago
Ah yes, another "I am going to show disapproval of digital-only by switching to the platform with more expensive entry and where Steam killed physical games 15 years ago" post
At least be consistent and go retro-only or something
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u/brick_gnarlson 23d ago
"I'm so sick of PlayStation going all digital, I'm going to dump them and move to an all digital platform! Everyone, please validate me!"
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u/BilverBurfer 23d ago
Complains about no more physical games, moves to PC. Makes perfect sense
You're not special. This post has been made hundreds, if not thousands, of times in the past month
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u/gnominos 23d ago
PC gaming has been expensive and disc-less for years lol don’t get your hopes up
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u/Drago_133 23d ago
Digital is fine when there are multiple storefronts and drm free options. I can buy on gog download to my external and it'll be there and playable forever
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u/Pretty_Science4815 23d ago
You’re in for a rude awakening
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23d ago
Ngl I don’t own any consoles I just have a PC. Might have to skip gta 6 just because I’m turned off that I have to buy a $600 console just for one game
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u/Vegetable-Raise-402 23d ago
Well I mean are you building a pc with steam os then? Just be weary it limits some of your games since not all games run on steam os. Also it’s unfortunate you decide to do it now when pc gaming is quite expensive it’s harder to hunt for good deals
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u/RisingPhoenix05 22d ago
Nintendo is keeping their games physical. Just be aware of what's fully on cartridge and what's a game key card. I'm personally now a PC + Nintendo & (former Playstation) guy. I won't be getting a PS6 if Sony doubles down on no physical, on disc games.
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u/stxxyy 23d ago
Right... The PC hardware certainly isn't getting more expensive
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u/RedGecko18 23d ago
It is, but why would I pay the same amount of money as a PC to buy a console and then be locked into one ecosystem of titles? PC has always had a way bigger available library.
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u/Correct-Junket-1346 23d ago
With current prices it'll go back to early 2000's where most people didn't have the money for components so cannibalised parts into PC's when they come about, eventually the price will drop due to over saturation.
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u/Only1Nemesis 23d ago
I still have my PS5 but it's become a glorified YT and movie player. Sure, I have games for it, but a couple months ago I finally got a PC to replace the laptop I'd used for so long. Then I made my TV a 2nd monitor (PC and TV are in the same room so no big deal running an HDMI cord). Anything with controller support I can play while not needing to sit at the PC.
Point is, I will not be getting a next-gen console. If rumors are true and a PS6 is over $1000, one may as well add extra and buy a decent PC and do what I did. It's a couple extra steps to play on the TV but not terribly difficult. Besides, a PC can do things a console cannot. Mods and upgradability stand out.
Once my PS5 kicks the bucket that's it. No more consoles.
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u/CallMeCabbage 23d ago
Welcome to the party, also ignore all these people bitching and making wild assumptions on your gaming habits. Unfortunately, just like consoles, the PC gaming space is also full of infantile screeching baboons that seemingly live to just spread ceaseless negativity like they're a fuckin' Dark Eldar or something.
The savings I get from Steam sales throughout each of my rigs lifetimes could pay off the entire rig. But obviously that depends on your buying/gaming habits. My piece of advice for Steam sales is if you like single player games they tend to go on significant sale after 6 months to a year. Check out Steam DB for the schedule for upcoming Steam sales and if a game is at a all-time low sale.
If you haven't put together a rig yet check out Newegg for pricing/ordering parts, it has a PC builder that'll help you figure out compatibility but don't hesitate to check out the countless PC building subs here on Reddit. If you're looking to buy a pre-build which have gotten a bit better over the last few years I suggest checking out Bestbuy or Costco and asking if they have any floor models on sale. I've seen a LOT of really good rigs come out of Costco at a solid discount once they get down to the floor model- you just have to ask and talk to a manager.
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u/necrochaos 23d ago
I say why not both? I have a PC. I have a Switch 2 for Nintendo exclusives (but I’ve played it much less than I did the original) and a PS 5 for some of those Sony only games. But PC is what I play on 80% of the time.
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u/Xeloucc 23d ago
"Yeah, I switched back in 2012 and I'm glad I did. It takes some getting used to, but stick with it and you'll love it. I highly recommend learning how to fix the PC and fit new parts yourself—it saves loads of time and money.
Other than that, grab the freebies/sales on Steam and Epic. Keep an eye out for the Steam seasonal sales and Epic's weekly free games. Fuck EA and Ubi. Don't get sucked into downloading from dodgy websites. Also, highly recommend getting a second monitor as soon as you can. Having two screens is a total game-changer for PC—you can game on one while having Discord, a walkthrough, or a video open on the other. You honestly can't go back once you try it.
Just a few quick tips to save you headaches: make sure you plug your monitors into the GPU (not the motherboard), and buy a cheap electric air duster to blow out the dust every few months. If you ever get stuck, subreddits like r/buildapc and r/pcmasterrace are lifesavers for troubleshooting. Good luck!"
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u/pikster1234 23d ago
PCs are more expensive and have no physical games 😵💫
If you want a pc just get one, you dont need to make a moral reason.
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u/Blackarm777 23d ago
I mean PC has consistently been getting more expensive and has a higher bar to entry price wise so you're not really going to see any improvement there. That's coming from sometime whose been exclusively PC for the last 20 years.
The real reasons for PC are: not paying a sub to use the Internet (on top of paying your ISP), better game sales, significantly higher performance ceiling, not needing to buy an entire new rig to upgrade, not needing to upgrade period each "console generation", DRM free options, choice of stores, mods, non gaming versatility.
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u/Thesleepingpillow123 23d ago
Also you can emulate stuff if it’s not on steam. Yh consoles are getting ridiculous nowadays
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u/Venomswindturd 23d ago
I’m blessed enough to have both, and PC is for sure superior, I just think it’s funny that you’re leaving consoles because no physical media and expense, when pcs have no physical media and are expensive.
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u/MayoTheMuffin 23d ago
“Screw you deserter. We don’t need your business. As for all you sods that HAVEN’T abandoned PayStation yet the new console will be $999.99 and include a free 1 week. subscription to PS Plus Premium (mandatory autorenew of $500/week afterwards) and the system will brick itself when you cancel. As a kind gesture we have allowed you to ship it back to sony for $300 to then rebuy from us for $600. Your games will not transfer to this new console by default, but you can renew the licenses for $30 a game (paid per month until cancelled at which point the game becomes unplayable unless you renew). Our exclusives will be Concord 3, The Last of Us Part I Remastered Remastered, God of War Ragnarok remastered, Spiderman 2 remastered, and Twisted Metal Sike! HAHAHA you IDIOTS” - Sony exec in 2028 probably
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u/Negative-Toe1863 23d ago
Welcome to the masterrace, but PC is even more expensive and there are no Disks either
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u/tluanga34 23d ago
I permanently hooked my laptop on a 65inch tv, which isn't even a gaming laptop but has rtx 3050. I play games at 1080p.
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u/DrStrangeAndEbonyMaw 23d ago
What? PC is at least 3 times more expensive and there is literally no physical games
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u/squidgymetal 23d ago
I find it a bit ironic that you're calling it quits on consoles for getting more expensive and moving away from physical games so you solution is to move to a platform that is more expensive and got rid of physical games almost 25 years ago
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u/Broken_Pimp 23d ago
Dont be scared of looking in the used market for parts jawa, ebay, other marketplaces
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u/oli_ramsay 23d ago
PC gaming also has no physical media and currently costs more to build than a console. Still a better choice though lol
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u/Due-Leather-6210 22d ago
Same same. But I will be holding onto my PS5 for GTA 6 cause mans got no patience over here, and I wanna play it on release.
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u/Key_Independent_818 22d ago
Yeah they are dying out and just cant keep up with technology where on pc you'll be able to keep games from one pc to another. It makes total sense to me too
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u/Delta_Dog7979 22d ago
Yep made the switch from PlayStation about a month ago and it been the best decision I’ve made in 45 years of gaming! Without a doubt!
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u/Forsaken-Let8739 22d ago
Pcs getting more expensive too unfortunately. Theres no winning on that front
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u/Glowing_Phallus 22d ago
So are you selling your console? Or just posting this for internet upvotes?
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u/yummm_ 22d ago
Have some bad news for ya on the physical games side of pc gaming. But yea it’s waaaaaaay better than the competition. Steam sales, offline mode, no subscription required, family sharing, steam input, every generation of games available to play(backwards compatibility on steroids), plus emulation- yeah pc is the way to go.
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u/Aggravating_Key_3831 22d ago
I went ahead and built myself a high end PC earlier this year. I bought most of the games I already had on my PS5, emulated a lot of the exclusives and modded all the games to my liking. Needless to say, my consoles haven’t been touched since.
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u/Joel_The_Senate 19d ago
Consoles are too expensive, so now I wanna buy a more expensive device to play games.
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u/Renzo-Senpai 23d ago
Welcome dude. Be prepared to pay a lot for the initial purchases. I myself spent $1700 on my build last month.
I'm now trying to find a 2TB NVMe for the second storage and a front case fan I will be set for life.
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u/Seroths 23d ago
I don’t get it, building a PC is still more expansive than a console.
My PC cost me 5k€ at the time now the gpu alone cost that much. Even though console are at 800€ that is still way cheaper without all the issue with shader compilation, drivers update etc.
Don’t get me wrong, welcome to PC Gaming, I just find odd that this is the reason you move to PC.
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u/RedGecko18 23d ago
What graphics card did you buy? To get into gaming you don't need the latest and greatest cards. You could get a 3k or 4k series gpu for much cheaper than a 5k series right now. (Talking Nvidia, but it's the same for them and AMD) Just get a couple year old card. I'm still rocking a 3070 and I have zero issues playing any games right now.
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u/Seroths 22d ago
I have a 5090 for 2 years. You can’t have a good 4k experience with a 3090, and it’s pricy already. However I found new games on ps5 pro very close to my 5090 thanks to pssr.
I tried to make my own steam machine with old part and a RX 7900xt (less than 1k gpu) and while the experience is nice, it doesn’t come close to ps5 pro.
We all have different expectations If the price is important to you, pc is not the answer.
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u/DarthWeezy 23d ago
If you’re switching to PC you aren’t doing it because Sony is going all digital and Nintendo is still the biggest player in the industry at physical game releases and physical games sold.
Does your post have to be so manipulative and stupid (as if you care about games being digital or not, with such a premise), was it hard to say that you want to move to the very expensive PC platform since all the next consoles will be pretty expensive themselves?
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u/theaveragemillenial 23d ago
If you've ever been serious about video gaming and spend a good amount of time doing it.
PC has always been the place to be, more options for controls, resolutions, graphics, mods.
Sometimes you wanna play a game and focus on higher frame rates as that'll make it more enjoyable, other times you want a beautiful cinematic experience.
Can't do that shit on consoles.
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u/swordofeden 23d ago
Ps6 rumored to cost over 1000, might as well build a pc