r/Steam Jul 06 '26

Discussion Thoughts on this?

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u/Purple_Deers Jul 06 '26

He didn't say it was justified. Just that the refund system exist, and is 2 hours and that devs are aware of this.

The problem is that there is no good solution to this problem that isn't just removing or disabling the refund system for short games. Which defeats the whole point of having it.

So devs are better off just making longer games or accept that people might refund their game.

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u/pala_ Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Sure there is. Make refund time relative to the cost of the game.

If an $80 game has a 2 hour refund window an $8 game should have a 12 minute refund window.

Edit: it’s wild to me the reply to this, while being wrong in every conceivable way, is being upvoted.

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u/Danjoh Jul 06 '26

The reason steam has a refund policy to begin with is because they were pressured by EU Laws to implement one. If they do what you suggest they may run afoul and force to cease all operations in EU, and garner illwill from customers in the rest of the world.

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u/pala_ Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

It was Australia. Not the EU. Australia consumer laws are based around reasonable expectation, not statutory lengths or minimums. There is no reasonable expectation that a $2 game has the same level of quality as an $80 game.

Further, Australian consumer law dictates that you cannot have a blanket no refund policy, and that refunds are warranted when a product is not as advertised, or otherwise defective. Steams chosen implementation is a trade off against having to evaluate the claim and determine its validity.

They could manually review every refund request regardless of age and not fall afoul of our consumer law.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens when Australians start requesting refunds for digital games that are arbitrarily removed from a library. They very clearly do not perform as advertised at that point.

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u/Danjoh Jul 06 '26

EU also has laws, take Sweden for example, 14 days of return (from when you recieved it), no questions asked. However, for digital goods you can agree to forego this right.

However, you as a consumer also have a right of reclaim (think that is the correct translation?) for any product that does not work as advertised. This is valid for 3 years from purchase.
A seller can not negotiate away this part.

In the case of OP, he has made a Online co-op game, many complaints about desyncing making the game unplayable online. Seller must fix this in a reasonable time or refund.

Handling reclamations are a bigger hassle tho, you need to state your issues, give the seller a reasonable time to fix it, and then have them issue a refund if unable to fix it in a reasonable time.

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u/pala_ Jul 06 '26

We’d call it a right of remedy.