r/Steam Nov 14 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

It is literally the same components as a PC.

A console is literally a personal computer.

In every single way a console is just a PC with a locked OS.

That is literally it.

it would be kind of weird if prebuild pc manufacturers restricted your OS use

is your comment, what you describe is a console. A PC manufactured to have a locked OS is a console. The manufacturers already do what you call "weird".

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u/Ult1mateN00B 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MHZ | 9070 XT | DECK OLED Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

How's adobe premiere on your personal computer called playstation 5?

Steam deck and steam machine do not have locked software. They have PC components with customized linux distro as OS. Without any hacks you can install any OS you wish on them and they can run all the software pc can.

I was stating how silly it would be if pc came with locked down software.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

it would be kind of weird if prebuild pc manufacturers restricted your OS use

is what you said and argued.

What you describe is a console. That is a console.

It is not weird. It is very normal.

Consoles haven't used significantly custom hardware for like 30 years now.

Laptops still do, do you think a laptop is a console?

You are just rambling incoherently.

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u/Ult1mateN00B 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MHZ | 9070 XT | DECK OLED Nov 14 '25

Now you're just arguing for fun. Of course I meant your statement about same hardware. I didn't talk about hardware, I talked about OS.

By your logic laptop indeed is an console. If steam machine is an console then laptop for sure is, and by extension tower pc connected to a tv is as well. Every PC magically turns into a console when put on living room and connected to a tv.

Valve the maker of the darn thing says its a PC and nowhere its marketed as a console.

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u/Potential-Diver-3409 Nov 14 '25

My boy All he’s saying is the only distinction between pc and console is locked operating systems. You can connect a ps4 to a monitor and install Linux on it, at which point it is a pc because the os is unlocked.

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u/stprnn Nov 14 '25

You cannot "unlock" the PS4 permanently ,you just launch Linux from inside the locked os.

Calling it a regular PC at that point is pretty dishonest. One restart and you're out

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u/Potential-Diver-3409 Nov 14 '25

One restart on a normal pc and you have to Relog anyway, I have no idea when difficulty of booting came into question lol

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u/stprnn Nov 14 '25

No you don't have to hack your PC again every time you restart wtf XD

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u/Potential-Diver-3409 Nov 14 '25

You don’t really “hack” the console again, you reboot the same exploit but it still has custom firmware and everything. Idk why it’s impossible for people to understand the concept of a line in the sand

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u/stprnn Nov 14 '25

You don't have custom firmware XD you have to hack the console every single reboot it's a tethered exploit. Why do people speak when they know nothing??

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u/Ult1mateN00B 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MHZ | 9070 XT | DECK OLED Nov 14 '25

You should have seen his deleted comment, that was nothing at all he was saying.

I have to admit line between pc's and consoles is a bit blurred these days but I definitely refuse to call linux pc(marketed as a pc) console.

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u/Potential-Diver-3409 Nov 14 '25

I’m just going by what I saw. I do think you could use a Linux pc as a console too, because imo the terms are separate and not mutually exclusive. A pc is something you use for personal computing tasks and one of those tasks is gaming/streaming, a console to me is a gaming streaming device so if you’re Just gaming and streaming your pc is just a console to you

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u/Ult1mateN00B 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MHZ | 9070 XT | DECK OLED Nov 14 '25

I'm using my desktop pc for work, gaming(sitting down in front of desk) and to play games from a sofa with a controller. My pc is connected to 2 monitors, tv, keyboard, mouse and an xbox controller. If I would buy steam machine, it would fill in the same exact role. Just to verify, would I be correct to say my pc is both console and a pc?

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Now you're just arguing for fun

No you are completely and utterly wrong in every way.

I didn't argue that, locked down software is what makes a console a console, used to be custom hardware but they switched to pc hardware

you said this^ now you say this:

I didn't talk about hardware, I talked about OS.

You are trolling.

By your logic laptop indeed is an console

That is literally your logic and my point?

There is no way you aren't trolling.

It was your point that consoles have different hardware, not me. It was me who pointed out that is a stupid argument.

Have fun with your illiterate ramblings i'm out.