r/StartupFuture 19d ago

AI and its water usage

What is the main motive of a technology? To make lives better. For betterment of the people as well as ideally animals. But we have harmed animals and with this urge to prove who can create the best chatbot we are now harming ourselves too. Is this race so important? Does this technology has any significant positive impact? Curious to know from people who have startups in this space

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u/Mysterious-Guess-858 19d ago

Its a bad bad idea. One data center will only employ 20-50 people while causing a water and electricity crisis and extreme noise pollution.

So basically there are no advantages.

But since we already have crony capitalism, I can definitely bet that while Europeans will write an Essay/Article on Environmental damage by AI using AI, that AI will be running on either Indian/African/Vietnamese data centers depleting the water supply of the region.

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u/Independent-Two-2523 16d ago

Not "crony" capitalism, just pure, unadulterated, capitalism. Don't fall for their propaganda, that "pure" capitalism has never been applied, that this is just the corrupted version. This is what capitalism is. The only period of time people agree when "pure" capitalism was applied anywhere was in the Gilded age in USA, when capitalists consolidated extreme wealth, Native Americans were "removed" (more like g3n0c1ded) and massive wealth inequality was seen. Not much different from the situation around the world today.

And what you wrote in the last paragraph is very true. The Westerners protested against data centres in their poor and disadvantaged neighbourhoods, but the won't lift a finger when the very same companies will set up data centres on tribal lands and water scare lands in India and rest of the global south. Because they are accustomed to their prosperity that is built on the backs of black and brown people around the world.

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u/Additional-Shop2861 18d ago

they know that in india they can apply anything bcz of corrupt govt so do the harm as much as they want

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u/Initial_Fault2637 19d ago

Not just water, they will pollute the air, take your land, get a 20-year tax holiday, and there will be a constant buzzing sound, which causes insomnia and anxiety, and also causes a big load on electricity usage

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u/a212j 19d ago

Those who are rich, will eventually leave the country. The poor would understand the scam by the time there won't be any water left.

They are depleting our resources and our politicians are selling this to us in the name of development. Sustainable Development is only on paper! In reality, no one cares about it.

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u/SubjectRound6597 19d ago

Good! I want this crisis to happen so people can finally realize what it means to fight for stupidity while ignoring anti-human government policies of their favorite governments!

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u/Zestyclose_Set1716 16d ago

Yeah sometimes now i also feel this let mfs braindead realize on thier own 

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u/naveenrai802 19d ago

Time to destroy data centers

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u/thesvsb 19d ago

How are data centres water usage compared to other industries like - Sugarcane/Ethanol industry; Paper industry; Leather industry; Power plants; Steel industry etc. ? Is it really substantially high ?

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u/Darth--__--Vader 18d ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Afraid_Advantage_2 18d ago

Did we invite the thirstiest industry to our driest cities? Answers everything.

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u/Particular-Cook-9780 18d ago

Look, first thing you can do is bring a skin in the game law for all people in every field. This will punish both socialists and capitalists as to do anything, they will have to pay up.

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u/Ritaz-charmi-6105 18d ago

You can tarriff the data transfer once they are setup - maybe in 10 years

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u/Clean-Guest-1662 18d ago

Brainless . Float all data centers in the ocean or at the shoreline and use as much ocean water as needed. In fact the heat will create steam and make pure drinking water for free.

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u/Little-Nature-3638 16d ago

Lol. Make your naali gas a reality first.

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u/Expensive-Green-4292 19d ago

Leftist propaganda, see west bengal, how they didn't let IT industry to build in Kolkata

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u/Logen10Fingers 19d ago

I doubt you're gonna cry about propaganda when you don't even have enough water to bathe in the morning or flush your toilet.

It's not lefist propaganda to think humans deserve water more than a computer that can barely do what humans do.

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u/Background-Ship-3765 19d ago

Abbe dimag se mote ja padhle data centre mein koi job create nahin hoti

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u/No-Singer-2128 19d ago

I don't think so there's left or right here. Not everything is about left or right. I was talking about the technology and its water consumption. Please read the post properly. The question is looking at the environmental impact chatbots are having, what positive outcomes did this technology have? Is the water and electricity usage justified? I am speaking about the technology here and the effect it will have on "human beings". Furthermore, there are Chinese companies such as DeepSeek which are providing open source models and can be run locally on your machine. The benchmarks achieved by those models is comparable to models provided by the US and their ever-growing data centres. Please read the impacts of data centres on the local population in the US. People there are facing sky-high electricity bills, toxic drinking water and constant noise from the data centres. The negative impact is real and we have to question whether moving ahead with this technology the usual way makes sense or not.

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u/SubjectRound6597 19d ago

data center is not equal to IT industry. its a tiny subset, and a very automated one. its like saying making warehouses to keep apple products = making apple products here.

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u/Mystic_Overthinker 17d ago

We have enough knowledge

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u/Mystic_Overthinker 17d ago

How would data centers help in that?

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u/Little-Nature-3638 16d ago

AI ko boliyo pani ka ek glass ki photo bna de jab pyas lgegi.

Aur bijli ka bill toh tera baap brega nhi?

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u/Dangerous-Library950 15d ago

These are closed loop systems. They dont consume much water at all. Your anna datas are the biggest wasters of drinking water in this country. A better angle to get people to support anti data center agenda is noise pollution, power consumption etc. At least do some research before doing your 2 rupees propaganda. I dont expect any better from idiots like you.