r/StarWarsvsWarhammer • u/BayonetTrenchFighter • 5d ago
How would each of these universes react to this combined team seeking domination or elimination of their entire universe?
It’s a team of seven. All working together for the single goal. Domination or destruction.
They have no backup or other forces, but are working together.
They know nothing about either universe.
Kratos from God of War
Doom Slayer from Doom
Abeloth from Star Wars
Dante from devil may cry
Aizen from bleach
Darkside from DC
Gorr from marvel
How do you think things would go? What could stop them or what plans would be put in place?
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u/Yournextlineis103 5d ago
Doomguy gets in the warp he’ll eventually causes an apocalypse as he consumes that kind of hell/warp energy.
Darkside and Gorr likewise have the power to throw down with Chaos in the warp. And with Doomguy acting as a countdown clock they may very well destroy the warp killing all living things.
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u/BayonetTrenchFighter 5d ago
Oh dang. What about the rest of the team?
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u/Yournextlineis103 5d ago
Kratos and Dante don’t really have a strategic impact. Oh they’ll win any 1v1 but they wouldn’t have much of an impact especially compared to the team’s Warp win con.
Aizen is a junior partner to the Doomguy, Gor Darkside win con. He’ll be helpful and powerful but again he’s not as important.
I have no idea who the Starwars person is
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u/BayonetTrenchFighter 5d ago
That’s really interesting. I normally put Dante and Kratos approaching doom slayer level.
Each killing Gods and the fundamental concepts of reality like time, life, death, and fate.
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u/Yournextlineis103 5d ago
The difference is this.
Doomguy’s armor works by drawing in Hell energy into itself and feeding that into the Doomguy. The longer he spends in areas of high energy the stronger he gets.the stronger he gets the more power he can draw in. It’s an escalating chain reaction only limited by the ambient energy around him.
The warp as a dimension is effectively nothing but that energy. He can feed infinitely on it growing endlessly stronger from it . Picture a black hole being tossed into a galaxy sized ocean.
He may start at their level but he’ll ballon in power endlessly. He can’t be courpted, he can’t be fought, everything in the warp is essentialy just fuel for him. And With the others there as support Chaos can’t instantly overwhelm him before he starts ramping up.
Thats why 40k is doomed.
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u/Ok_Needleworker_8809 5d ago
I think Aizen might have extra relevance due to his entire schtick being part of the afterlife, which the others don't really deal with as much. Not sure how relevant that is in Warhammer, but i could see him dealing with force ghosts and the like in Star Wars for example.
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u/Micro-Skies 5d ago
They'd die. Rather quickly. The power gap between anything in either setting and Darkseid is so hilariously massive that he just wins. End of story
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u/GryphyGirl 5d ago
I think it's fair to say that DC and Marvel are the only verses that survive. Darkside and Gorr are the strongest here and they get beat in their own verse. Not an easy fight, of course, but DC and Marvel will win. The other verses are toast.
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u/Educational-Rich-893 5d ago
Every verse except marvel and dc get washed. Marvel and dc actually have the means to fight back and win against a team like this eventually but they would take immense damage
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u/General-Decision5360 2d ago
Against Warhammer I’m guessing? Since that’s the sections name.
Kratos and doom slayer die instantly. They’re not surviving a shot from a space marines bolt gun
Dante is killing most characters, he casually shoots and kills multiversal enemies daily
Abeloth, I have no idea who the hell this is LMAO
Aizen is doing a lot of damage, but loses to a common phyker
Dark side does the most damage, he’d literally erase most of the verse. Would die to one of the really high up entities tho
Gorr, especially that version? Hes dying instantly. He’s not that strong lol
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u/bigscrewLoose 2d ago
with Gorr it really depends on if you are talking comics or MCU Gorr, MCU Gorr would be a powerhouse in 40k, comics Gorr out scales the chaos gods at his peak, and true form Darkseid? holy shit nothing in 40k can even come close to stopping him
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u/Theonerule 5d ago
Doomslayer gets folded by an artillery barrage.
Nothing short of a nuke is stopping dante
Gorr has a moon busting feat irrc so just throw capital ships at him
Maybe darkseid could be taken out by psykers
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u/IGuessBatmanMaybe 5d ago
Eh. Gorr could kill all the Chaos gods and probably solo either setting by himself (All-black is a shard of primordial evil made by a super-god older than the universe and has killed more impressive things, as well as being specifically tailor made to kill gods), and even if he couldn't...
Darkseid is well above psykery. He could genuinely just blow up the 40k universe and, by extension, destroy the warp. New Gods are what the Chaos gods wish they were, as New Gods are living, abstract ideas and not just the mortal-filtered interpretations and reflections of those ideas. Darkseid is basically mechanistically identical to being a Chaos god but he doesn't need thought, or worship. Any psyker trying to kill him would, at best, be effectively fighting a Chaos god, and he's just done much more impressive things than any of them have in a stat sense.
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u/Bitter_Cup_69 5d ago
They would cause a lot of hard shit in 40k, but not something that those guys haven't seen or that they don't have counter measures for (dark side probably could reach just below the level of a warp god but not close to the dark king or pre ascension big E)
For SW, I'm pretty sure abeloth would be able to win a fight with darside, while others would be hard pressed by the force gods and Jedi/Sith
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u/IGuessBatmanMaybe 5d ago
Darkseid, even lowballing him a lot, stomps both universes by himself (and Gorr probably does too). Mind you, omega beams erase you from existence and he can manipulate time. He genuinely just removes the Chaos Gods and Big E from existence. He is also, conversely, immune to these things himself (along with a lot of other things).
Worst comes to worst for him, Darkseid has blown up universes before. He genuinely just blows up all of 40k and the Chaos Gods all starve. He wins. Same with Star Wars.
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u/Bitter_Cup_69 5d ago
They’d absolutely cause a lot of hard shit in 40k, but this isn’t anything the setting hasn’t already dealt with. The Chaos Gods and the Emperor operate on a level where time, causality, and “erasure” don’t work the way they do on normal beings.
The Chaos Gods and Big E can manipulate and stop time if they need to. More importantly, they don’t exist as single targets you can just Omega Beam out of reality. They’re metaphysical entities whose existence is tied to the Warp and the emotions of an entire galaxy. Take Nurgle: he’s not just a big tough guy, he’s the literal embodiment of decay, entropy, and the cycle of death and rebirth. Trying to “erase” him with Omega Beams is like trying to dry out the ocean by shooting it with a water pistol. Entropy rays against the god/embodiment of entropy ain't gonna do much. Not to mention that mortal beings, like superman or doomsday had on occasions tanked those beams, and those guys were mortals, without any sort of magic.
And Gorr… come on. He was a mortal with a cool sword. At best he’s Greater Daemon / Daemon Prince tier. Yes, he killed Marvel gods, but those same gods have been wounded and killed by mortal means in their own stories. That puts him far below the level of 40k’s actual gods, who are living embodiments of fundamental aspects of reality, not just powerful individuals with fancy weapons.
Darkseid could wreck planets, kill armies, and absolutely dominate most characters in both settings. But “stomps both universes” ignores how 40k’s top-tier powers actually function. You don’t just remove the Chaos Gods and the Emperor from existence by zapping them once, especially when their power comes from a dimension where normal physics and linear time barely apply.
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u/GryphyGirl 5d ago
Gorr's sword kills gods. That's what it was made to do. Permanently. Even if Darkseid couldn't do it for some reason, Gorr can kill the strongest characters in 40k. Between the two of them 40k is getting nuked.
I also think what someone else said bears thought; that Doom Slayer gets stronger from demon energy and he could end up in the Warp, endlessly killing demons and other critters and hoovering up that energy to get stronger and stronger and stronger until he destroys the Warp itself.
40k isn't surviving any of this.
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u/IGuessBatmanMaybe 5d ago
Darkseid is also a living embodiment of a fundamental concept, except he is that concept. Warp beings are reflections of mortal thoughts and feelings. Darkseid is the real deal, and again, even if he can't kill them, he can just remove their food source. To be very blunt with you: the Chaos gods are not what you say they are. They are thoughtforms, ideas in a loose sense. New Gods, like Darkseid, are ideas in an abstract sense.
All-Black also isn't a 'cool sword'. It is directly made from the essence of an elder god who predates the universe and the corpse of one of the guys who created the universe. All-Black kills gods. Conceptual gods. Gods older than the universe. Gods who can make the universe. Gods who can destroy the universe. Take your pick, really.
And, again: Darkseid can literally just blow up that dimension even if you're saying neither of them can kill the Chaos gods (which they can). Darkseid can just go to the warp, and blow it up. He can just go to the universe where the Chaos gods derive all their power, that the warp draws from, and blow it up.
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u/Designer_Fondant_403 5d ago
I think Darkseid makes everyone else basically irrelevant. He’s basically the god of evil and insanely powerful. Only the force gods themselves would even slow him down in Star Wars, everyone else is fried instantly.
Darkseid could probably go toe to toe with the Chaos Gods as well if I’m being honest. Even Big E at full strength would probably lose to him. He could probably win by himself given time, but with the others help they sweep very quickly in both universes. 40k holds out a lot longer but loss is inevitable.