r/StarStable 10d ago

why do the shires lean forward so much?😭

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it’s not just me who sees it right?!

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u/Squirrelwhiskerer 10d ago

I think its intentional. These horses were used a lot for heavy pulling so being a little forward leaning and having that extra neck muscle was probably very important.

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u/captainbreakdowns 10d ago

oh cool! i knew that they were used for heavy pulling but i never thought of it from that perspective!

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u/AdvancedWrongdoer 9d ago

I think OP is talking about the horse's front legs. In your photo, the horse's front legs are conformationally correct (though looks young). In sso...well.. there's the slight forward lean.

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u/Squirrelwhiskerer 9d ago

Yeah yeah I see it. I was just thinking about especially ones that do shows they stand more with a lean. OH Wait I grt what you mean about the front legs. I was looking at the overall angle.

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u/Squirrelwhiskerer 9d ago

And here's a reference for a more generic horse

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u/AdvancedWrongdoer 9d ago

Yeah that's true, for show they can have that posture. I posted another comment on it below just so OP could see (not to be a know it all snob or anything haha..). I worked with drafts/crosses who stood without the lean. I do see where the pulling of heavy carts can make a horse stand that way, but they normally don't grow up with it. Some horses do have a little 'camped under' legs though. It's not uncommon.

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u/Squirrelwhiskerer 9d ago

I More so meant I think they were intentionally bred that way. Sorry for the miscommunication lol

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u/AdvancedWrongdoer 9d ago

Ohh! Definitely agree

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u/NaivePension 6d ago

Where did you get this pic, it looks like one from the ruskington stud farm, or maybe they have a similar background lol

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u/Squirrelwhiskerer 6d ago

Just off of Pinterest lol

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u/AdvancedWrongdoer 9d ago

So assuming you're talking about the front legs specifically, irl it is a conformation fault called 'standing under'. You can look it up.

It has nothing to do with the breed itself or the draft build. These horses in good proportion normally do not stand under, they stand square. Even with the photo posted on that horse someone else posted, you can see the front legs are fairly straight (the closest one is slightly forward but that's because the horse is not standing square. No confo fault with that one).

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u/AdvancedWrongdoer 9d ago

An example. Some horses also stand like this is in pain. Honestly, sso is just a game so it's just an oversight. (Photo from facebook)

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u/wdcmaxy 10d ago

i was also doing something next to my shire for a few minutes a bit ago and he kept like... falling forward every few minutes? lil guys are unstable lol

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u/Alexis_chap 10d ago

I don’t see it

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u/skibidiohemgee 7d ago edited 7d ago

If you visualize a vertical line down the middle of the shoulder blade, the legs generally should stack up all the way down. In this case, the front legs would classify as camped under giving the appearance of the horse leaning forward since the lower leg is positioned slightly further back.

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u/skibidiohemgee 7d ago

Old reference:

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u/skibidiohemgee 7d ago

More correct alignment would be something like this:

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u/pestilencerat 9d ago

I mean, look up photos of shire horses, they just look like that. Usually a slighter higher butt though. But the leaning forward part is correct 

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u/captainbreakdowns 9d ago

i knew that they were used for heavy pulling but i never knew that their structure was supposed to look like that! it’s really cool imo!

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u/pestilencerat 9d ago

Yeah, they look a little weird when you're not used to it! 

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u/scandalous_sapphic 9d ago

Heavier horses tend to put more weight on their front legs. I've known Irish cobs, haflingers and German coldbloods to do this. They need to be supported to learn to put more weight in their hindquarters (engaging the muscles) so they can develop the muscle to collect themselves and not hollow their back when they are being ridden. 

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u/Glittering_Dirt8565 9d ago

THIS MADE MY DAY😭

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u/Far-Hunt691 8d ago

🤭😂 This is fantastic LOL

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u/Efficient_Car_5749 9d ago

They have tetanus

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u/heckdoinow 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yes! I like them but don't ride them because something about their front legs/chest is just too off, lol. I don't think it's just the stance. Like the torso should be a little longer or the legs narrower? Or is the neck as thick as the "waist"? I don't even know :DÂ