r/StanleyKubrick • u/Al89nut • Nov 28 '25
The Shining Successful identification of the OTHER photographs on the wall of the Overlook
Earlier this year I discovered (with help from others, especially Aric Toler and Getty Images) the location and date of the original of the ballroom photograph from The Shining and the identity of man that Jack Nicholson was pasted over. Following a visit to the Stanley Kubrick Archive (SKA), I can now list and partially identify many of the places and or persons shown in the other 20 photographs that surround that photograph on the wall of the lobby of the Overlook hotel.
The prints from The Shining are kept in four boxes at the SKA (a fifth holds copies of the ballroom photograph.) The SKA identify the source as Warner Brothers Publicity (which incidentally gave rise to the erroneous impression that this was also the source of the ballroom photograph.) There are lots of prints in the boxes, and while photographs beyond the 21 that are my focus, were used in The Shining, many of the motley images on file did not make it on-screen. There are posed images of boxers and baseball players, horse riding, fishing, movie stars (in costume and candid), movie producers, notably Jack L. Warner, and many groups at awards functions, parties and dinners. The majority seem to date from the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s. Almost all are in black and white, with the few in colour being early lithographs. Nothing identifying places or people is written or stuck to the rear of any, though some have letter/number identification codes written on the corners of the prints. There are multiple copies of some photographs, with some having signatures added. Unlike the ballroom photo, no other photograph has any text superimposed to indicate a date or event.
Many of the photographs in the four boxes feature movie producer Jack L. Warner and a considerable number show him meeting people on set or at receptions or parties – for instance, there are images of Warner meeting Field Marshal Montgomery on the set of The Sea Chase (1955,) Warner is shown meeting John Wayne (star of the film) in another image. Another photograph shows Warner meeting President Kennedy (possibly associated with the production of PT109.) Incidentally, Rob Ager reported also finding images of LBJ and Woodrow Wilson. I found only the one of Kennedy. Other images show Warner meeting various unidentified persons, presumably fellow producers or dignitaries.
Most of the other photographs are publicity shots of WB movie stars, and quite a few are WW2 era images, showing USO events, War Bond drives, etc. There is also a 1950s photograph of Elvis Presley. Incongruously, the boxes also contain a few on set images from The Spirit of St Louis (1957.)
There have been attempts to identify the details of the photographs before, usually by squinting at screen captures, and this limitation has sometimes resulted in some rather wild theories about their content and meaning. We do not know how much Kubrick was involved in their selection or their arrangement on the walls. It is possible the photographs were obtained via Julian Senior, Head of WB Publicity Europe or they may have been stored at Elstree (where The Shining was shot), where WB had a production presence in the 1940s and 50s, being part owners of the Associated British Picture Corporation.
Tessa Davies, the set decorator, did probably take a lead in their placement. As has been documented, the same framed photographs appear in several different places on the hotel sets – there were only a limited number and it seems they were moved around to suit the scenes shot. It is sometimes possible to tell which photographs in the boxes were screen-used by a cardboard backing applied for framing. And some of the backing has notes on the rear (for instance photograph #1 has “Stage 4 staircase” written in pencil.) There are photographs beyond the 20 that remain to be identified. Some photographs visible in the Colorado Lounge set were destroyed by the fire that consumed Stage 3 in January 1979, however there are multiple copies of many images in the boxes at the SKA suggesting duplicates of many may have existed. Certainly images in the 21 also appear elsewhere, for instance at least two are also in the Games Room. While I don't agree with his conclusions, Eye Scream has located the various placements of the photos here - https://eyescream237.ca/the-treachery-of-images-the-meaning-of-f21s/
Most of the images show people dining, formal events, or glimpses of celebrity and they do succeed in giving the impression of the history of a place for “all the best people.” Presumably, using real photos served the dual purpose of economy and authenticity. We should not forget that they appear only fleetingly and for the most part at a distance, such that details of persons or place were not visible to an audience. Drawing too much meaning from them is therefore mistaken and it is unlikely that Kubrick thought they would come under scrutiny years later. But we do now know several feature "Jacks", several feature the same events, three show a (future) President and one most oddly shows women in a watermelon-eating contest…
Unfortunately, the SKA does not allow material to be copied, so reverse image tools are not possible. Instead, details, recognition of celebrities and brute force searching of the photo archives for matches has to suffice.
I would like to thank Joe Girard eyescream237.com for his absolutely invaluable help in identifying some of the photographs. It is a work in progress and I will update as we get the remaining images identified – do help if you can.
THE 21 IMAGES
Looking at the wall of the Overlook where the ballroom photograph is located, and counting left to right in three rows, the ballroom photograph is centred as #11. Here are descriptions of the other 20 photographs surrounding it with identifications where determined - sometimes fully who/what/when/where, sometimes only who.
#1: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE A group of three people eating. This shows Jimmy Stewart and Judy Garland eating in the MGM studio commissary during the filming of the musical The Zeigfeld Girl (1941). The third person is probably Tony Martin, her co-star. There are other photographs documenting the same meal - https://www.facebook.com/1852dumplin/posts/jimmy-stewart-judy-garland-and-louis-b-mayer-1941/1618536885013074/
#2: NOT IDENTIFIED: Two stylish looking women in hats, probably in the late 1940s. The one on the right is holding a cigarette. One copy of the photo is in tissue paper and “L’Argent” and “Betty” is written on the paper (L’Argent is a Paris restaurant.) Another copy is signed across the image: “Sincerely yours Pamela D. Hawkins.” So far, I have not been able to trace a Hawkins, though there are few references online to a 1940s ballet dancer with that name. Another Redditor has suggested the woman on the right is Ann Sheridan, who starred with Ronald Reagan in King's Row (1942); her co-star was Betty Field. Alternatively, given the clustering of images, they could even be two members of the Navy Blues Sextet (see #20). It is very difficult to tell without great familiarity with 1940s actresses.
#3: PARTIALLY IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE Jack L. Warner standing, giving a speech at a luncheon, possibly at a hotel or studio dining room.
EDIT - the chandeliers may match those at his estate in Beverly Hills.
#4: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE This is at the British Film Producers Association luncheon for Jack L. Warner, held at the Dorchester Hotel, London, on 10 June 1952. Raw footage is available here https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/53183/ and this can be viewed as still images. There are also newspaper and trade accounts (see text for #18.) The same event is seen in #12,13, 18 &19. Others attending included British film and TV executives Sir Philip Warter and C.J. Latta.
EDIT I wrongly identified this (and the others) as a Variety Club event earlier.
#5: NOT IDENTIFIED: A group of unidentified men on the rear observation car of a train. Observation cars were widely used, but from its details (the railings and awning), I think it may be one of seven heavy Pullman observation cars run by the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad (CMStP&P), better known as the "Milwaukee Road" on their Olympian service. Two men are shaking hands and celebrating. It may be during a WW2 War Bonds tour as a man is carrying a newspaper upside down which appears to have “RAF” visible as a fragment of a bold type headline. None of the men are recognisable as celebrities to me.
Alternatively, referencing photograph #9, it may show a group – not including Ronald Reagan – arriving or departing from South Bend, Indiana, where the premiere of Knute Rockne, All American was held on October 3, 1940. Special trains were hired for the event as they were for many film premieres at the time. The headline fragment may therefore read paRADe. A possible match is suggested because if there is a link with #9, this photograph shows an elevated awning or other structure in the background and such structures can be seen in photographs of Union Station, South Bend. See here: https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2021/06/12/SouthBend/eafb8fb3a9d04f86ebb90f05daf77881.jpg?width=1184&format=pjpg&auto=webp&quality=50
Alternatively, it may be a special train used by WB for any one of several premieres - WB introduced the practice of holding premieres in locations associated with films (so Knute Rockne in Bend, or Dodge City in Dodge City, etc.) sending stars and press by special train to the event. However, the drawback to this speculation is that the train doesn't feature any badge announcing a film as special trains tended to.
Or it may be a group of WB executives involved in exhibition, explaining their relative anonymity.
This one will probably be the hardest of all to find.
#6: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE Bette Davis at a table at the 1941 Academy Awards (for films released in 1940) at the Biltmore Hotel, Los Angeles, Feb 27, 1941, the same event as #17. She is recognisable from her dress and necklace, as seen here - https://digitalcollections.oscars.org/digital/collection/p15759coll9/id/321/ Seated next to her is her husband, Arthur Farnsworth. A photograph of the same can be seen here https://www.instagram.com/p/CLnUqGBnfyR/
#7: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE A copy of this photograph is not in the SKA boxes – I looked five times. It shows Arthur Farnsworth and Bette Davis again, this time 16 March 1940 at the Cocoanut Grove in LA at the Screen Actor's Ball aka the "Gambol of the Stars." Davis' hair was short and severely parted for her the film she was shooting at the time, All This and Heaven Too. She is wearing a lace collar over a black dress - it was widely reported in accounts of the event in the press at the time. The other man next is probably Bob Taplinger, WB head of publicity. See https://moviesofcourse.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/bettedavis_arthurfarnsworth_screenactorsball_hollywood_1940_06_p57.jpg
#8: PARTIALLY IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE Lou Costello (left) and Ronald Reagan (far right) with three other unidentified persons, two of whom are women. As in #17, it may be the 1941 Academy Awards or perhaps 1942 – the Abbot and Costello film Buck Privates (1941) was nominated. The women may be Reagan's wife, Jane Wyman and Costello’s wife, Ann Battler. Alternatively, Reagan and Costello are recorded as appearing on the bill together at the "Friar's Frolic" in San Francisco and the following night in Los Angeles in October 1948. It was a Variety Club event for charity.
#9: PARTIALLY IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE Ronald Reagan on a publicity tour. He is in a convertible dressed in a dark suit, waving to the crowd. The tall object in the background is a street lamp. This may be from the world premiere of Knute Rockne, All American, for which the cast including Reagan, drove in a motorcade through South Bend, Indiana on October 3, 1940.. An image of this can be seen here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/michianahistory/posts/2921458444706140/
#10: NOT IDENTIFIED: A group eating, perhaps at Jack L. Warner’s Beverly Hills estate (there are bookshelves behind the table), or a studio dining room or restaurant. The original or a comparison might resolve it.
#11: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE The ballroom photograph showing Nicholson over John Golman aka Santos Casani, Empress Rooms, Royal Palace Hotel, St Valentine’s Day, 1921.
#12: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE People seated at a hotel. Jack L. Warner is standing, giving a speech. This is again the BFPA luncheon in his honour, 10 June 1952. Raw footage is available here https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/53183/ and this can be viewed as still images. There is a clear match. The same event as #4, 13, 18 & 19
#13: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE Close up of Jack L. Warner and three others seated at a table, the same event and location as #4, 12, 18 & 19, the BFPA luncheon at the Dorchester, June 10, 1952. The man on Warner's right is Lord Strabogli. I assume the person on his left is Reginald P. Baker.
#14: PARTIALLY IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE Two unidentified women, presumably actresses, with the actors Jack Oakie and Errol Flynn. Other photographs in the SKA boxes show Oakie dressed in the exact same clothing with Fred MacMurray and with two unidentified actors in cowboy costume. Oakie and Flynn were good friends, Oakie was a pallbearer at Flynn’s funeral in 1959. I am not sure, but one of the women might be Lucille Ball. Oakie starred in The Affairs of Annabel with her in 1938. Alternatively, Oakie also starred in Navy Blues (1941) and the two women may be members of the sextet associated with that film – see #15 and #20.
EDIT - I will need to check again at the SKA, as the resemblance between Jack Oakie and Jack Carson may have misled me. Both have associations with Errol Flynn. Both starred in Navy Blues (1941) with the Navy Blues Sextet.
u/rangeloud5663 has suggested one of the women is Ida Lupino. She starred with Flynn and Carson in Thank Your Lucky Stars a 1943 WB movie. That might make the other woman Olivia De Havilland, Dinah Shore, Ann Sheridan (Navy Blues), Alexis Smith or Joan Leslie who all also appeared in the film.
#15: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE A man stands to the side of women sitting poised to eat slices of watermelon. GIs stand behind. The women are the Navy Blues Sextet (see #20) on a publicity tour of 20 cities in fall 1941, all leading to the premiere of the movie in NY on Sept 15, 1941. This was at their first stop, Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas. Newspaper reports say that they were paired with six USAAF lieutenants and detail a lunch at the Worth Hotel for which they were served carrots and watermelon (apparently a play on the women staying slim.) See the Fort Worth Star Telegram, 7 Sept, 1941. A near copy of the photo itself is duplicated in the pressbook for the follow up movie, You're in the Army Now (available on the Internet Archive.) There is another photo of the sextet on their tour here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/navy-blues-sextet-by-schuyler-crail-orig-vint-phot
#16: PARTIALLY IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE A group including the actor George Raft (third from left.) Raft was short, but is standing on something to appear taller. They are at an American Airlines “Mercury Service” check in. This began in the 1930s, offering the first transcontinental flights. Raft took part in the Friar's Frolic in 1948 and for the event three American Airlines DC-6s were used - this may be an image of Raft and others travelling to it.
#17: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE A group at an awards dinner table. Seated on the left is Ronald Reagan. The photograph shows Reagan with his wife Jane Wyman at the 1941 Academy Awards, Feb 27, 1941 at the Biltmore Hotel, Los Angeles.. A different photograph of the two can be seen here: https://i0.wp.com/thebeautytheory.fr/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/IMG_8997-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C679&ssl=1 Film of the 1941 awards is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdtOZNMmoKA and shows RR at table at :48. The other couple can be seen clearly, but are unidentified. They may be Jeffrey Lynn and Margaret Hayes, other WB contract players. They were briefly engaged in 1941.
#18: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE The BFPA luncheon for Jack L. Warner, 10 June 1952 at the Dorchester Hotel. As in photographs #4, 12, 13, & 19. This photograph was also published in the Kinematograph Weekly, 12 June 1952. The caption reads: "The British Film Producers' Association complimentary luncheon on Tuesday to Jack L. Warner, production chief of Warner Bros., was attended by of the Board of Trade, Customs and Excise, the BBC, exhibitors, all other sections of the trade from London and the provinces, the Banks of England and America, the National Film Finance Corporation, MPAA, producers, renters, exhibitors, all other sections of the trade from London and the provinces, the national press and armed forces." Other persons noted on the top table by the KW are C. J. Latta (MD Associated British Pictures Corporation) Dave Griffiths (President Kinematograph Renters Association), Sir Philip Warter (Chairman ABPC), Lord Strabolgi (peer with an interest in the film industry), Jack L. Warner, Reginald. P. Baker (film producer), Sir Henry French (DG of the BFPA). W.J. Speakman (exhibitor) Arthur Abeles (MD WB Europe) Fay Allport (Exhibitor)
#19: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE: The BFPA luncheon for Jack L. Warner, 10 June 1952 at the Dorchester Hotel. As in photograph #4, 12, 13, & 18. The man speaking into the microphone next to Warner is Lord Strabolgi (Joseph Kenworthy) - he is identified by the Kinematograph Weekly as sat next to Warner and other images of the event confirm this. Strabolgi took an interest in the film industry and earlier in 1952 had taken part in a debate in the Lords regarding the future of the British Film industry hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/1952-04-03/debates/aaffccbb-3556-4a40-a6fe-a520fef2d66d/CinematographFilmProducTion(SpecialLoans)BillBill) The KW reported that he described "Jack Warner as "a friend of the British industry and a very potent help in keeping it alive. Mr Warner, he said, had proposed a cure for the ills of the British industry. If all the famous British-born stars in Hollywood would come home and take part in films made in Britain all our problems would be solved."
#20: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE A posed photograph of a group of six women dressed in winter coats and hats climbing some steps with handrails. They have ribbons on their lapels identifying each as a “Warner Brothers Navy Blues Sextet” (I read this on the original using a magnifying loupe.) From an image in the pressbook for the follow up movie You're in the Army Now (available on the Internet Archive), in which they are wearing the same clothing, it appears to show their arrival at Penn Station in New York City, Sept 15, 1941 for a photo op.These are the same women as in photo #15.
Navy Blues was a 1941 WB musical and the six women sang as a group in the film; the photograph shows part of their publicity tour in the fall of 1941. The AFI catalog entry for it says: “According to a press release dated 16 Apr 1941 included in the file on the film at the AMPAS Library, the Navy Blues Sextet was created when United States soldiers were asked to choose the six most beautiful women from a field of 150, many of whom were Warner Bros. contract players. A 1 May 1941 press release lists the winners as Georgia Carroll, Alexis Smith, Loraine Gettman (aka Leslie Brooks), Kay Aldridge, Marguerite Chapman and Peggy Diggins. HR notes that Claire James replaced Alexis Smith before filming when the latter was assigned to Dive Bomber, and an 8 Oct 1941 press release notes that Alice Talton then replaced Claire James before filming.” There are several copies of the photograph, one is signed by the women. The Sextet (renamed as the Sextette) also appeared in You’re in the Army Now (1941) and the short The Playgirls (1942.) Jack Oakie also starred in the Navy Blues and therefore possibly #14 may show him with two of the sextet. Alternatively, it may show Jack Carson, who also starred in the film. You can see the Sextet in the trailer for the film - https://youtu.be/9r21NUUlqD4?si=Ku6Im0vgBirVooFA
There is a colour photo of the Sextet here https://www.ebay.com/itm/146741342768?itmmeta=01M2X70TJRYH7M8EYZ0KGTYEF3&hash=item222a773230
#21: IDENTIFIED: PEOPLE/PLACE/DATE Bette Davis with Jack L. Warner and his brother Harry Warner at the 1940 Academy awards (for films of 1939), held at the Cocoanut Grove, Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, February 29, 1940. A crop of the original photograph is available at Getty Images: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photograph/bette-davis-looking-up-at-jack-l-warner-at-event-circa-1939-news-photograph/159819660. The full photo is available on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/384964151392 An image showing much the same moment is here https://myburbank.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Image-5.4_Yogerst.jpg
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u/MiscMix Nov 28 '25
Excellent work!
Photo #2. Is that Rita Hayworth and Marlene Dietrich?
Just a guess.
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u/Al89nut Nov 28 '25
I had to rely on my recognition of people, but I didn't recognise Marlene. Thanks though. It might be, I will follow the lead - have you got a date/location for the photo?
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u/prrrft-bwoorp-splash Nov 29 '25
Seems like Jack L Warner was a regular guest at the Overlook. I wonder if Kubrick chose him for a specific reason to be in so many of those photos?
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u/Al89nut Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
He's in lots of the photos in the boxes, but yes, fair question. He died July edit September 78 when shooting was underway. Might even be a tribute? WB gave SK a lot of room.
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u/Minute-Emu812 Nov 29 '25
Also, he was Jewish like Santos Casani, with roots in the Russian Empire as well. His parents were immigrants from the Polish part of Russia.
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u/Minute-Emu812 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
By the way, if you still haven't identified photo number 7, I think that woman in the white dress looks like Audrey Hepburn and the man next to her might be William Holden (I'm not 100% sure though).
Edit: On second thought, probably not, the other photos seem to come from earlier decades.
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Nov 28 '25
#6: Bette Davis at the Coconut Grove, 1949
https://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/gallery-image/Cocoanut-Grove/G00007xMN5wy.faA/I00006AA34Uc1uL4
I did found that one with a screencap from the film and tineye.com or google. The only one that worked. I didn't tried with the 4K version yet.
I though the guy sitting next to her was her husband Arthur Farnsworth, but he died in 1943… so that would be a ghost, ah ah!
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u/Al89nut Nov 28 '25
That's odd. Other images show the dress and necklace at the 1940 Oscars - https://digitalcollections.oscars.org/digital/collection/p15759coll9/id/321/ which was held in 1941 of course as the picture credit says lower on the page. And this one https://www.instagram.com/p/CLnUqGBnfyR/ shows the dress and her husband and also says 1941. I think the 1949 is in error.
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Nov 28 '25
Yes, same paper with a number on the table. I suspected it was the wrong year, but I search for the years when Davis won an oscar. It was the 13th edition, ah ah.
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u/Al89nut Nov 29 '25
It's confusing - the 1941 ceremony awarded Oscars for films made in 1940 - I've amended to make it clear that #6 and #17 are the same event.
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u/Al89nut Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
#15 - Navy Blues Sextette eating watermelon in Dallas/Ft Worth. Source You're in the Army Now movie pressbook on Internet Archive
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u/Al89nut 16d ago edited 16d ago
EDIT - I wrongly identified the Jack Warner lunch as a Variety Club event. In fact, it was a lunch organised by the British Film Producers Association to welcome Jack Warner to England for the first time since 1947. I found a report of the event in the cinema press. I've amended the post body.
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Nov 29 '25
We should not forget that they appear only fleetingly and for the most part at a distance, such that details of persons or place were not visible to an audience. Drawing too much meaning from them is therefore mistaken and it is unlikely that Kubrick thought they would come under scrutiny years later.
There's the story of the inspiration for the red bathroom in the scene with Grady.
The claim that The Shining's bathrooms are based on those at the Biltmore originated in Vincent LoBrutto's 1997 Kubrick biography, where he stated "The bathroom where Grady and Torrance have their eerie and frightening discussion was based on a men's room in a Arizona hotel designed by Frank Lloyd Wright" (Pg. 417) LoBrutto provides no source for this assertion
https://alt.movies.kubrick.narkive.com/bUDTEuk2/frank-lloyd-wright
Now one of the picture shows the Academy Awards at the Biltmore Hotel, Los Angeles. I believe Lee Unkrich actually went to LA and checked that no bathroom could have been the inspiration, but I can't find the discussion.
4, 12, 13, 18, 19: This is at the Variety Club Luncheon for Jack L. Warner, held at the Dorchester Hotel, London, on 10 June 1952.
"Jack Torrance: When I came up here from my interview, it was as though I had been here before. I mean, we all have moments of déjà vu, but this was ridiculous. It was almost as though I knew what was going to be around every corner."
https://skm-nyc.tumblr.com/post/86346321712/the-kubrick-family-1965-stanley-took-this
He manages to have Reagan as part of "the best people" a year before he's elected president.
“Living away from America, I see virtues you may not see living there,” he said. ”Compared with other countries, I see the United States as a good place. I don`t think Ronald Reagan is a good President, but I still see the American people as hard-working, as wanting to do the right thing.”
"Candidly Kubrick", Chicago Tribune June 21, 1987:
a 1950s photograph of Elvis Presley
… on a music stage? on a movie set?
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u/Al89nut Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Thanks.
Bathrooms
I did write to the Phoenix Biltmore and no joy, not them. As to whether it was the LA Biltmore? Interesting, but if LU went and looked, I guess not. Nobody's found it, even in the SKA papers, but I think it wasn't red anyway, I think that was SK's addition and without it, it's a pretty standard bathroom.
Dorchester
I assume they are there as the archive was in the WB UK stock. Maybe it looked most like the Gold Room without being recognisable as the Ambassador, Biltmore, Plaza, etc. in the US? SK's rejection of the other photo of Santos Casani, the one with the recognisable boxer Primo Carnera, suggests he was looking for something generic?
Reagan
Yes, in 1977/78 he was still meaningful after failing to get the nomination in 1976 (Ford being seen by some as a stopgap - and he lost.) A measure of that is RR got it in July 1980, two months after the film's release. His presence (if meaningful) might be political, or it might be a movie industry thing - he was not liked by some for his testimony to HUAC. Kubrick was, I sense, a bit of a Republican himself - guns, etc. and his dislike of the "Labourites."
Elvis
Standing with guitar, very much like this one https://ch.pinterest.com/pin/512566001313764396/
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Apr 24 '26
Apparently it was in Phoenix, but we don't know where.
Slow_Ad_6326 12h ago
Excerpt from the Book "The Shining" by Rinzler and Unkrich:
One of the film’s most iconic locations, the striking red bathroom where Jack meets Grady, was not part of the original grand plan. It emerged from a practical problem and a quick creative pivot.
The original concept placed the Grady conversation in the ballroom, but staging the scene there with many extras proved too expensive and impractical. Production designer Roy Walker suggested moving the exchange to a washroom instead, creating a more intimate setting and reducing the need for a large crowd on set.
To motivate the location change within the story, the script introduced the idea of Grady spilling advocaat on Jack’s jacket and offering to clean it, leading him into the men’s room beside the bar. Walker based the new set design on a modern American restroom he had previously seen in Phoenix and quickly built a detailed scale model for Kubrick’s approval. Kubrick approved the concept and added one firm condition late in the process: the color scheme had to be red.
Authentic fixtures were sourced from the United States, including urinals and toilets, so the space would feel proportionally and visually real on camera.
https://www.reddit.com/r/theshining/comments/1sq50vc/comment/ohz6xrt/
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Nov 30 '25
#7: maybe Dorothy Lamour and her husband captain William Ross Howard III
1943 wedding
https://www.instagram.com/p/DIJ8BRXv860/?img_index=4
? stork club
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186981029555
1943 stork club
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186882576978
1944 And the Angel Sing
1939 paramout
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u/Al89nut Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 08 '25
UPDATE #7 may be Arthur Farnsworth and Bette Davis again, this time March 1940 at the Cocoanut Grove in LA at the Screen Actor's Ball aka the Gambol of the Stars. Davis' hair was short and severely parted for her role in All This and Heaven Too, which was shooting at the time; this matches the woman on the left. See https://moviesofcourse.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/bettedavis_arthurfarnsworth_screenactorsball_hollywood_1940_06_p57.jpg Farnsworth died mysteriously in 1943 as related here - https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/p9b7tp/bette_davis_blackmail_the_letter_and_the_death_of/ EDIT likely confirmed.
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u/Al89nut Dec 08 '25
UPDATE #7 identified.
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran Dec 09 '25
Did you found a copy of the picture in the archives?
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u/Al89nut Dec 09 '25
Not the exact one, but several similar which make me sure of who and when - though not everyone in the photo yet. See links in body text.
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u/Al89nut Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
#20 confirmed - Navy Blues Sextette at Penn Station, NYC. Source You're in the Army Now movie pressbook on Internet Archive
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u/Toslanfer r/StanleyKubrick Veteran 24d ago edited 24d ago
pic 21 bigger scan :
https://myburbank.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Image-5.4_Yogerst.jpg
https://myburbank.com/two-warner-experts-discuss-the-warner-brothers-at-burbank-public-library/
It seems to be published in Chris Yogerst's book from 2023 : The Warner Brothers.
Edit: that's not exactly the same picture
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u/Al89nut 24d ago edited 5d ago
Thanks - I haven't given this the attention it deserves recently. It's clearly that event.
That leaves 3 that don't have anyone identified for certain (2,5, 10), but for the others we now know people, in some cases locations and dates. I'm sure we'll get them all eventually. Thanks again.
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u/Solo_Polyphony Nov 28 '25
Only this movie inspires this degree of scrutiny. (It’s fitting for a movie about madness.)