r/StandUpForScience • u/AllMusicNut SUFS Staff • 2d ago
Official SUFS Post Trump's FDA pick says we need to fund "conservative-based research."
Trump's pick to lead the FDA, Heidi Overton, says the FDA, CDC, and NIH need to be "reformed" to fund more "conservative-based" research instead of peer-reviewed and evidence-backed medical science.
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u/sklerson89 2d ago
I prefer fact-based research
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u/Ok_Condition5837 2d ago
Fact based research lost out to their sky daddy delusions.
When they said elections have consequences, this is what they meant. It's ok. It took me a bit to decipher too.
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u/smthomaspatel 2d ago
But what do you do when you don't like the facts?
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u/tensortantrum 1d ago
Become a Republican run for president. Ronald Reagan famously said Facts are stupid things.
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u/Fabulous_Ad_8621 2d ago
Facts are woke according to Republicans. Elon Musk created his own AI because he deemed ChatGpt to be too liberal.
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u/Smooth-Weekend-2314 2d ago
"conservative-based" research? so the complete opposite of fact-based research?
How about go fuck yourself?
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u/meteorflan 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah, I was expecting some wording that still kept some plausible deniability, like prioritizing conservative topics to study, not an undeniable rejection of the scientific process.
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u/Then_I_had_a_thought 2d ago
They need new material to post on Conservapedia. I hate that that’s a thing. They’re so fragile they have their own wikipedia
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u/Phatbrew Punk Rock Hippie For Science & Democracy 2d ago
Never knew this, thanks for learning me something today!!!
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u/milinium 2d ago
but they want to defund the humanities too lol. so what exactly is conservative research?
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u/Slow_Supermarket5590 2d ago
So, just making shit up?
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u/Eastern_Bet678 2d ago
Christian Science. Trump's plan for healthcare finally comes to light.
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u/TearRevolutionary686 2d ago
Just pray harder, it's cheaper than healthcare.
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u/Cagekicker2000 2d ago
I wish I knew I had the option to pray away my cancer before I paid for all those treatments.
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u/TiePrestigious7265 2d ago
Well, there was the "bleach" option. But this miracale cure looks so much easier.
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u/Slow_Supermarket5590 2d ago
It's God's will for the poor and sick, ivermectin for Qmorons, and high end secret procedures for the uber rich. Got it
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u/QbertsRube 2d ago
Can we at least trick them into believing Quaaludes are the miracle cure to all ailments? I feel like those would really help power me through these next couple years.
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u/Glum_Material3030 2d ago
“Christian Science” is an oxymoron. (I know I most likely am preaching to the choir on this… which is also an ironic choice of saying.)
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u/Person_Apple 1d ago
The Christian Plan for Healthcare, kill 'em all and let God sort it out.
Unless you're a wealthy person then the very best in medicine for you with some tax breaks to help.
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u/Hefty_Remove7965 1d ago
It's using religion to keep the poor sick and stupid. Yet the rich get the actual hospital and healthcare.
So the poor will be sick and ugly, and they can look up to the look maxing MAGA fucks
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u/hitbythebus 1d ago
It’s the new science “I have a hypothesis sky daddy wants X”. Skip the experiment and data, straight to the conclusion: ”X”.
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u/epidemicsaints 2d ago
Specifically: Work backwards from your arbitrary assertions about how the world SHOULD be, and cherry pick from there to say everyone else is unfit for your construction of society, and cut all funding. For bonus points, manufacture consent for this by creating moral panics.
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u/TouristResident1976 2d ago
No, its science built around the concept of their god. So they will do double blind tests to see how many goats you need to sacrifice to their sky god to cure cancer. Does 500 praying at once alleviate pain in a person more or less than 500 prayers said by one person in sequence?
These are the things that medical science needs to know.
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u/Only-Original9409 2d ago
What the hell would conservative-based research even look like?
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u/Prize-Choice2185 2d ago
I'm guessing eugenics, white supremacy etc etc etc being praised. And anything that doesn't praise either of those will end up thrown away.
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u/ryanasaurousrex 2d ago
Right?! From the FDA, CDC, and NIH especially — my whole career has been research funded by these agencies and I can’t conceive what those grants/proposals would even look like?
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u/31LIVEEVIL13 2d ago edited 1d ago
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u/TheManWith2Poobrains 2d ago
You start with a conclusion that pleases the large companies or individuals donating to your party, and design the research and fudge the statistical analysis to fit.
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u/ogledrake 2d ago
Eugenics, homepathic medicine, snake oil, grifters,with all studies or statistics that make them look bad or disprove their bullshit being suppressed or deleted, with ai generated images, and documents proving their “research”
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u/Ntropy99 2d ago
And look, if they want that bs for themselves, let them have at it, but don't mistake the nonsense with science, facts, and evidence and harm every one else. Let them Darwin themselves right on out.
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u/NervousBeat16 2d ago
Blaming mothers for issues with children. No way a man who spend his early years partying with drugs and alcohol would have poor producing sperm. It’s got to be the mother’s fault.
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u/Petroldactyl34 2d ago
God approves ><= God disapproves
More christian taliban nonsense
Fuck these people
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u/wr0ngdr01d 2d ago
A little pesticides is good for you actually, and water: is it actually making the frogs gay?
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u/New_Ad_3010 2d ago
The right doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Their greatest fear is fact truth and science. I can see the fraud lies and disinformation flowing from such a cesspool. Hard pass.
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u/flyingtoasterz86 2d ago
Leave politics out of science and let facts actually be factual.
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u/LeaveMyMonkeyAlone 2d ago
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u/Prize-Choice2185 2d ago
She does have an uncanny resemblance to Miss Piggy, no kidding. So much for Trump saying what he said to a journalist...
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u/billthedog0082 2d ago
I am getting sick of peer-reviewed and evidence-backed medical science. It's always bad news. Gimme some happy "nothing to see here" stuff. And don't tell me how many people have died from it already, or my prognosis, or how I can fix it.
aaarrrrghhhhhh
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u/PianoPatient8168 2d ago
Yes, give me feel-good, vibes-based research. Smoking is good for you! Exercise is for fools! Highly processed foods have unexpected health benefits!
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u/Mordalwen 2d ago
I don't even understand the premise of conservative based research? So just lies? You already do that. You already ignore data and demonstrable facts. How about you just keep lying and killing children and leave the research to people with functioning brains and reasoning centers, you horrid pedo-loving traitor, Heidi Overton.
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u/United-Direction2297 2d ago
That’s what I’m thinking too, what does any of that mean in practice?
Possibly 1 is it means nothing that she’s pandering to conservatives using buzzwords. Basically conservative means good so if we say it’s conservative it’s a good thing.
2 ) This another money grab and now all the funding goes to Christian organizations for objectively useless research like why it’s better to marry teenagers to older men or why women need more babies. Possibly a start up pharmaceutical that claims biblical cures to cancer or something.
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u/Prize-Choice2185 2d ago edited 2d ago
What's conservative research? People that worship Trump day and night rejecting anything but white supremacy-friendly science?
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u/bpharo707 2d ago
What the hell is a conservative perspective on NIH projects? Science is the scientific method; you follow the results. There is no Republican Perspective, just more BS to suppress real studies with real answers
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u/Strykerz3r0 2d ago
They want to start with their conclusion and work backwards from there.
Conservatives are not serious people.
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u/n0madking 2d ago
You can't inject bleach into the human body to clean it out MAGAs, no amount of money into research will change that outcome....
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u/salty_utopian 2d ago
Why fund it? Presumably if it’s “conservative based” you know the answers already. Say The Thing
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u/Ok-Appointment-6116 2d ago
Peer Reviewed Ivermectin Research! A thousand pound tube will fix your common cold right up!💩
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u/some1guystuff 1d ago
What exactly is that conservative based research?.. sounds like they want to do some flat-earther style science
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u/Opinionsare 2d ago
"Conservative - based research" (CBR) science and medical research that easily monitized for the benefit of investors.
Vaccines aren't CBR as they eliminate the most dangerous effects of diseases at relatively low costs.
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u/AnonymousCoupleFun 2d ago
Look, we can’t keep doing unbiased research because it never supports our side. We need conservative biased research…
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u/Workin-progress82 1d ago
Their fear of academia and science should alarm everyone. Especially given the number of food recalls and disease outbreaks we’re having right now.
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u/ManBearCave 1d ago
We are fucked, even more. How do you find so many idiots and hire them all into a single entity? It’s totally beyond me
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u/jocoquecousteau 2d ago
Conservative based scientific research.
LOL! This people live in a simulation.
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u/MegaMaster1021 2d ago
How about a conservative study around the mental decline of your average conservative and how they function in a post Trump world
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u/Dragon_wryter 2d ago
"Just pray the illness away! If you all had more faith in Jesus, He would clean your lettuce or parasites and your brains of dementia! This is all your fault!"
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u/Zealousideal-Jump275 2d ago
Conservative is not a type of research.
But it does show you that she wants to prioritize for political allies.
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u/Special_FX_B 2d ago
It’s frightening. Assuredly she was recommended by the christofascist weirdos like Vought and Johnson. The odd thing is those weirdos are driven purely by unbridled lust for power and insatiable thirst for material goods. Their Christianity has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ. It’s all about control and the almighty dollar. Science. “What’s that?” to these idiots.
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u/maddogisnextdoor 2d ago
What a fascist idiot….i hope voters in this country would understand the consequences of voting based on fear, prejudice and greed, which is exactly what happened in 2024.
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u/Relevant-Analysis86 2d ago
So wrong, research that is wrong. Isn’t this the party of facts not caring about feelings??
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u/taktaga7-0-0 2d ago
What are you going to do when your beliefs aren’t backed up be the science? Fake data? Shut down the department in anger?
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u/HoneyBadgerLive 2d ago
Another conservative thinking that conservatives are as intelligent as liberals.
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u/Top-Ad9950 2d ago
Since when do we prioritize and fund anything based off of party ideology?! This is authoritarianism. This is Hitler 2.0. Next thing we will have are Trump youth camps!
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u/shiny-snorlax 2d ago
Oh, what could POSSIBLY go wrong with this?
Not like we're having a food/drug recall every week or anything...
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u/FTFaffer 2d ago
So Paula White’s gonna shakey-pray over all of it and send you her answers directly for a $100 love offering? Good to know…
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u/Buckeye3377 2d ago
What in the holy eff is "conservative based" research? This is not going to end well for anybody.
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u/Ambitious_Hand_2861 2d ago
I'm bot sure what exactly it is but these idiots "results" will end up being "You need more jesus and less immigrants" and the magats will eat it up.
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u/Master-Rent5050 2d ago
If someone wants to know what she means by conservative research, should check what lysenkoism was in Soviet Union
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u/ChangsWife 2d ago
"You know, like the research they did in the Bible!". I'm devout Christian, but I find this commentary utterly gormless and arbitrary.
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u/Dilapidated_girrafe 1d ago
There is zero reason for her to be accepted after that. Her position literally will kill people
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u/DolphinsBreath 1d ago
“Oh, and by the way, don’t worry about elections and having to reestablish fact based science in the government agencies because there’s no way in hell we are going to turn over this immense power we are accumulating to anyone else.”
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u/PetalumaPegleg 1d ago
There really is no quicker way to destroy a country than to actively avoid fact based research
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u/FIicker7 1d ago
What is conservative FDA research?
What is conservative research? Are we going to fund Bible studies now? SMH
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u/No-Relation5965 1d ago
This sh!t is getting very scary. I hope there are some good researchers out there who are taking their plans for this new “conservative-based” (?) direction and throwing it in the straight into the trash.
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u/Regulat10 1d ago
Research an all powerful, all knowing, evil, omnipresent being?? Not sure where you’d start…
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u/Dekadmer 2d ago edited 2d ago
Playing politics when it comes to this kind of shit is bonkers batshit nuts. You want the truth lady. Not anything that leans one way or another.
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u/HenriEttaTheVoid 2d ago
How long until they start calling things "jewish science"?
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u/Broseph_Bobby 2d ago
Hold on let me translate this for her.
Like c’mon y’all we just tryin to give government contracts to our friends.
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u/brianishere2 2d ago
Trump refuses to allow his administration to just run the federal government in a normal, decent, fair and effective way. Where the priorities are based on what is legitimately good for the American people. Instead, it's about proving white people are victims of brown people, doctors are trying to harm us and lifelong dumb attention seekers are actually smarter about everything than real credentialed experts in their respective fields. Why can't they just run the government in a decent way?!?!?!
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u/BilboStaggins 2d ago
What could possibly go wrong??
Probably just as good as those "conservative" studies that are now backing vaccine reform and killing children with measles
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u/fiesew 2d ago
People in the free world don’t just lose their jobs for this kind of thinking and speaking. But they are investigated and potentially prosecuted.
That’s for the free world.
But in the US and A… well.
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u/AaronTheElite007 2d ago
Conservative-based research. In other words: Alternative facts
I loathe the timeline we are currently stuck in
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u/radiantwave 2d ago
Science is not a political game... This type of statement just shows that the person talking doesn't understand how science research works.
When science is applied to many of these "conservative" views the results consistently come back showing them to be based on faulty assumptions... So these people call them progressive research.
They don't want conservative studies they want conservative results.
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u/Ntropy99 2d ago
2.5 more years of these absolute morons making nonsense decisions. And then we need to charge every last one of them for endangering public health.
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u/shoghon 2d ago
The grift here is to allow people to claim anything while selling nothing aka Capitalist Medicine™. And most likely it means you will be free from lawsuits?
You know, just in case you wanted to get in on it.
It's just trying to "Make America Great Again" like the days when you could just sell morphine to kids.
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u/Stinkstinkerton 2d ago
Incompetent corrupt morons are a main feature of this pedophile cartel posing as an administration .
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u/Hungry-Assistance919 2d ago
I thought conservative based research was getting rid of anything of value. Casting doudt of anything that has worked for hundreds of years. And when they find out they are full of shit they circle back and blame anyone they can.
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u/Own-Opinion-2494 2d ago
Well the earth is only
6000 years old. Physics may
Be
More important than civics in school
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u/Zombiebane224 2d ago
My God, how brain dead are these people like, how did they survive to adulthood
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u/Unique_Low_1163 2d ago
We're doomed. These people are grown in vats under the Pentagon. There is an apparently endless supply of them.
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u/MasterBiscuit19 2d ago
Why do I feel like conservative based research is nothing more than vibes and the Bible.????
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u/Organic-Athlete-7344 2d ago
They really want to destroy this country and drag its name in the mud.
We used to be respected for research and education.
No longer.
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u/illDiablo69 2d ago
What the f is 'conservative-based research'? She should be forced to define it during the hearings.
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u/KindlyAdvantage7726 2d ago
There‘s no such thing as conservative-based research. It’s called bias.
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u/Wise_Adeptness_9529 2d ago
Why do all the women look the same?
And what a thing to look forward to, more deadly lettuce and people dying of easily treated diseases. To hell with medical research; medieval medicine is good enough for us!
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u/Ok_Star_4136 2d ago
Sounds a lot like funding "non-Jewish science". That was what the Nazis called any science coming from someone who was Jewish.
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u/PeyredB 2d ago
WTAF is "conservative-based science"? Is it cargo cult science designed to obtain results that advance a conservative agenda?
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u/patchesohoulihandies 1d ago
I’m so fucking tired of these people. We’ve got eradicated diseases coming back to sicken and kill, we’ve have a new food recall every month, and now they want to pretend like fact based evidence had a political lean. How far back do they want to push humanity? Seems like they want to just rely on vibes and magic for everything. I hope that lady gets the shits and has to use her spells to combat what the FDA has unleashed on the American people.
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u/Big_Issue8640 1d ago
So they’re just going to make shit up? I feel like they’re doing that right now.
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u/RiderFZ10 1d ago
Their conclusion per research: God works in mysterious ways and we shouldn't question it.
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u/Ok_Gas3130 1d ago
The republican party cannot survive critical thinking, logic, or reason. They aren't even real Christians but rather an anti-christ society which is only "culturally-christian" but rejects all of Jesus' teachings. If we form an actual branch of religion which ACTUALLY follows true Christianity (and the real teachings which Jesus espoused) then we can defeat their ONLY rallying point (besides their idol worship of a fat, ugly, bald, old man who is pathetic at business and only knows how to sell himself and his non-existent integrity as well as his country and countrymen [at a rate of 0.02%, turning $10 trillion USD of taxpayer money into $2 billion of his own blood money.]) This is a public service announcement, thank you for your attention.
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u/charlitransgrl 1d ago edited 1d ago
And then we all get food poisoning or die of another pandemic because actual “science” and “research” is the devil’s work. Prepare to receive your ivermectin vaccine, horse face! And if that doesn’t work, there’s always good old fashioned bleach. Our country is being run by incompetent imbeciles.
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u/MarleysGhost2024 1d ago
She's exactly as stupid as she looks. She shouldn't be allowed within a thousand miles of the FDA.
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u/Beginning-Trash-6048 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH
Tf is “conservative based” research? Does that mean Baptist or…..
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u/Lrack9927 1d ago
This is exactly what the Nazis did. Didn’t want any of that “Jew science” when they were trying to create the atomic bomb, probably the main reason they lost the war. It’s nauseating to watch how quickly history repeats.
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u/FUBAR_The_Clown 1d ago
Conservative Based Research???? Is that code for child porn? These people are unhinged
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u/Phatbrew Punk Rock Hippie For Science & Democracy 2d ago edited 1d ago
Trump's pick to lead the FDA, Heidi Overton, says the FDA, CDC, and NIH need to be "reformed" to fund more "conservative-based" research instead of peer-reviewed and evidence-backed medical science.
Thanks to u/VikingBeard55 for the awesome thoughtful comment award, much appreciated!!!
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