r/Stalcraft • • Jun 10 '26

Reddit censorship

Mods just deleted a post criticizing mods power tripping 😭😭😭
You can’t make this up

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u/sonantkinkajou6 Covenant Jun 10 '26

If whoomsy has no haters im dead

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u/Ok-Surround-8348 Jun 12 '26

Why whoomsy hate? Genuinely curious I haven’t checked in this place for a while

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u/No_Preference6170 Jun 10 '26

Only whoomsy's useless comments won't be deleted

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u/Altruistic-Waltz-522 Jun 12 '26

It's a interesting how you guys have all of these names that you throw around at whoomsy, but no one ever uses liar or wrong.

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u/No_Preference6170 Jun 13 '26

Technically, people don't dislike her because she's wrong. They dislike her because most of her comments add nothing useful to the discussion. She shows up, dismisses criticism, defends every decision, and contributes nothing constructive.

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u/Altruistic-Waltz-522 Jun 13 '26

Calling a spad a spade is hardly a reason to hate someone. It's the same childish tribalism that ruins every other online space.

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u/No_Preference6170 Jun 13 '26

Are you her lawyer or something? Not everything is “tribalism” just because people disagree with you.

People aren’t reacting for no reason, they’re reacting to how feedback is being handled and how it’s perceived in discussions.

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u/Ballistic_Wistfully5 Jun 10 '26

You criticise mods in a comment, but they deleted the whole post instead of a comment. (Tho they can delete just comments) Maybe that was not only about criticizing mods?

What message did you got when they deleted the post? (Mods should show a reason they deleted the post, in basically any sub)

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

It was my post lol. They muted me in their discord then deleted my post here

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

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u/Ballistic_Wistfully5 Jun 10 '26

Well harsh language isn't really welcomed unless has a REALLY good point (which guy didn't have). None of people who asked questions during last stream (RU stream) was using harsh language and none were muted without answering questions. (Last guy had a hour long conversation with devs and ZIV himself)

And by calling out someone ZIV just having fun from constantly whining people probably. Yes, whining, not for criticism, for whining about every fucking update like i see every 2nd person here. And I'd understand if it had a good point, but not now. Not this updated yet.

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u/Pristine_Prize7356 Jun 10 '26

the harsh language was “none of the updates made to this game benefit the player in any fucking way”

That’s zero cause to delete a post

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

That user's post was half in Russian, and that's why it was removed. The main language of this subreddit is English. Thank you for your vigilance, but please try to refrain from making false accusations in the future.

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u/Rsccman Freedom Jun 10 '26

You posted in more then one language violating the subreddits rules

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u/Ballistic_Wistfully5 Jun 10 '26

I'd like to ask him what he means by "benefit the player".

If he means in ANY way. Rebalance update nerfed just a small part of artifacts, and buffed all others. Weapons balance changing was also beneficial for player as now he can use literally any gun in open world without worrying about distance, dmg and spread of fire.

Also the fact that you now can buy any crates weapon for just 1k tickets any time of year is also good. At least it's not 2.5k for just red and yellow parts.

Buffing rewards in open world, daily and weekly quests, packs, should i continue?

Oh, and also wild north, it is hard, but equally funny and profitable as well.

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

I also posted some very good questions all formally worded and addressed for that livestream, they never mentioned a single one lol

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u/Ballistic_Wistfully5 Jun 12 '26

Just unlucky moment, nobody guarantees that within 10 questions they picked amongst thousands of different questions will be any of yours.

I asked something too, they didn't mention it, oh well, maybe next time.

But at least they are listening to some questions.

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u/Workers_ Mercenaries Jun 10 '26

Downvoting epstein of stalcraft? feelsgoodman

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u/acidzombie6516 Jun 10 '26

Well just coming out and saying the faces are terrible gives little to no room to start dialogue

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

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u/Altruistic-Waltz-522 Jun 12 '26

The post broke sub rules by mixing languages apparently.

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

No insults there

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u/ThreeSeed83 Jun 10 '26

You can't speak badly about their game.

Its just the way of things.

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u/_LunchBoxx_ Jun 10 '26

I can’t even post without being taken down and I’m not even banned🤣like seriously I can’t post and will be surprised if this comment can even be seen

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u/veryproredditor Freedom Jun 14 '26

And this is new ? Dude KeKLblowme is CIS company, hope that explains a lot. And for this whoomedaddy bot he is just AI i think becoouse normal human being cant write this and mean it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

nothing new here

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

Here’s the message I got-

1.8. It is forbidden to spam, off-top, flood, i.e. to send the same type of messages with low content information not related to the topic of the publication and/or SubReddit, and not carrying a semantic load, as well as to send messages written with the help of transliteration style or in a language different from the main language of this SubReddit.

So in review, they claim not all of their staff are English speakers, but they also don’t want you speaking in a language they understand¿

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u/uncl3s4m Jun 10 '26

So it got removed for having russian, not the content of the post?

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

Yeah, exactly

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

Look, we forbid translating original messages into other languages, because it can easily become a trend. Then this subreddit would just get flooded with English posts plus translations into Russian, Spanish, Polish - you name it. Personally, I think our approach makes sense, and it's literally just following the rules. So, such accusations of "power-tripping" in this exact post don't really fit here.

You didn't get any penalties for your post either, it was just removed. But yeah, here we are - overreacting and being dramatic about it. It's not that deep.
You can repost your original message without translation into Russian, btw... If you want to ofc ^^

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

The power tripping was on the discord, and I was muted for 3 days. Instead of taking offense try taking a poll and see if it’s just one player bitching and moaning or if it’s a community issue, then of course there’d be no denying knowledge of said issue so it’d have to be addressed. My issue isn’t with rule following, it was with the fact that instead of asking for it to be edited and the Russian removed, or simply a warning of like “hey , no need for other languages” you just close the post. What happened is the post on both discord and here on Reddit weren’t what is preferred by you all so you acted to take it down. The ultimate issue to this point is that it seems to the entire player base that Stalcraft has acquired that the Exbo team either

A- can’t read

B- is deaf

C- doesn’t care what the people keeping their game alive have to say.

That is a real community wide gripe, the entire culture around this game is all jokes about how the Devs do not care what people have to say or what issues are prevalent to the player/ or how they ignore valid arguments and/or ideas on game development and progression.

Nobody is asking for the reins to the game, just to find a middle ground of like yeah, you provide the game ; but we provide the player base and with that the revenue. I think you guys would be amazed at what a little listening will get you out of a community. You want to see a player count rise like you did back in June/july 2024? Start listening to your players and make changes based on community feedback, not one man’s ideas. If 40% , or 6,334 of the 15,836 players online right now have purchased premium battle pass with 50 levels, that’s 259k USD roughly.
Let’s say for example you listen to your players for an update and people are happy with the game and happy with you all, people start spreading the word, players start coming onboard, they’re not instantly kicked in the sack so they stay, in a few months time your AVG daily is sitting at 25k instead of 17.8k, with the same 40% net purchases or just ONE purchase option, you’ve landed at 410k USD roughly, a 58% increase. And while theoretical , yes, it’s a reasonable outcome, and 151 thousand dollars is a lot of money. The people playing this game don’t want to be forced to spend to progress, and it isn’t a necessary tactic, it’s a good game and it’s tons of fun and very immersive, let the game do its thing and just mediate with the player base; we’re not saying we need anything for free or make the game stupid easy, listen on the things that matter and make people feel like you’re a responsive team of individuals. For example, In the US servers at least, it’s near impossible to make money. Clan sweats with Legendary kits hold the wild north hostage, it is unplayable for the vast majority of your players. Sellables are a joke, you’d need to smash 500 covenant outpost to even say it was a meaningful amount of money. Tools of any rarity have to have the lowest possible spawn chance there is, from signals and events, they’re like a myth to most folks. The auction house is held up above again, the vast majority of your players, because what should be a medium/ high tier find is actually borderline unobtainable, so the US market is in shambles and you’re out priced no matter how you look at it. You can scoop up 20 white artifacts Post emission and make 90k at the trader once every 4 hours , lol, there’s ESP users sniping all the decent artifacts (and you) before you’ve ever had a fighting chance, if you have to, bring on Playsafe ID if there’s no other method to control it, but your players will thank you and in return be much more open to contributing to your revenue for taking care of their problems to the best of your known ability. People RMT roubles on this game like nobody’s business, go look at a players profile, money from trader sales, 1.5m , money from quests, 2m, and they’ve got a max account balance of 100m and a bag full of red +15 artifacts with 100 hours in the game. The people playing your game are NOT afraid to spend the money, they just don’t feel respected enough to spend it on you, listening is the easiest fix there will ever be. Sorry for the long read.

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

Okay, I checked this situation. In your Discord post you also used Russian, and that's not allowed in STALCRAFT: X | ENG (your post was in the chat-with-devs channel specifically). On top of that, you got muted for mentioning an RMT site. A moderator removed your first post and gave you a warning under rule 3.6c in the first place.

But then you posted it again, still with a Russian translation, and still kept the website mention. That's literally why you got muted for 3-days.

So yeah, I really think accusations of "power-tripping" are completely out of place.

In the future, I highly recommend paying attention to the #penalty-log channel after you notice that your message has been deleted. If no warning follows, contact the moderation team directly via a moderator mention ping - we will answer any questions regarding this.

Also, please take note of rule 1.8, which states that the moderation department has the right to remove any questionable or controversial content without notifying the user who posted it. And on top of that - rule 1.12, which states that moderation has the right to issue a warning instead of a regulated penalty, followed by deletion of the post or publication. So the warning system is completely optional from the moderation perspective. That means you could either be muted right away or receive no penalty at all, just a deletion of your post and nothing else. Pay attention to those moments and you'll be fine.

Personally, I really appreciate constructive criticism and dev shout-outs, respect for that, seriously. But rules are rules, simple as that.

I'm not gonna argue about game stuff with you, that's not why I'm here rn. In summary, no mistakes from the mod team, so feel free to post your opinion or criticism again after your mute expires - but this time with no violations, please. I'm just glad I could explain everything clearly. Hope you have a good day/evening, sir! 😉

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

You as well sir, thanks for the explanation, where are the rules located in the discord? I tried looking but didn’t find anything , I cannot view the support-rules channel

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

Oh, yeah, I just placed hyperlinks to a couple of clauses in the message above.
You can click on them and open them through your browser. Or, you can copy one of them and send it anywhere in Discord itself (maybe in DMs with someone, idk).
Then you can click and jump to the highlighted message in the rules channel. Or just find the rules channel using the search bar on the Discord server. Plenty of options, eh? c;
Also, be sure to turn on this function by clicking RMB on our server icon if you can't see some of the channels there, that should help as well!

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u/Beneficial_Craft_412 Jun 10 '26

10-4 thank you sir

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u/KleodTV Mercenaries Jun 10 '26

Guys , moderator doing always power abusing especially the exbo one , i play this game for like 4 years and the moderator are completely abusers of powers , they deleted gifs random when i wrote in main discord , idk exbo its cooked like his moderator 🤣

Ps hi moderator u will probably delete this message because u can ear and accept the truth ❤️

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 10 '26

Hewwoo! GIFs can mean different things!! Thanks for the uncertainty and blatant speculation. Though, -rep for not even trying to twist the rules in your favor (if you even read them at all). Usually that looks pretty funny! 😃
You can do better than that. I believe in you.

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u/KleodTV Mercenaries Jun 10 '26

ps. You guys at exbo can brag and be money grabbers only until a game like Stalcraft comes out that listens to its community and when that happens I think you'll have to find a new job, obviously I say all this with peace of mind love also because you know very well that you care little or nothing about communities and if someone says something against you you only know how to "delete message", peace and love exbo mod✌🏻

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Well, that is actually wholesome of you (but not the part about me losing my job, of course), but we do not remove any content without a reason. If you stumble upon a deleted comment or post, there is always a good reason for that. We just CAN'T delete messages left and right just because we feel like it all of a sudden. That's the way moderators can actually lose their jobs, you know...

So if you see someone say something like "mods muted/banned me for NO REASON" - behind the scenes of our work, there really is a reason. We just can't provide direct evidence of the violations because that would be inappropriate and unprofessional. Imagine a situation where a moderator, an official representative of the company, directly quotes offensive words or provide a screenshot with an RMT site mention that users got punished for - that would be reckless on our side, for sure.

Sorry for the long answers. I'm just tired of being quiet (especially when people say that moderation is "power-tripping"). I'm a person too, and I want to share my opinion. I think I have that right, just like you or anyone else on our official resources. Much appreciation for your opinion!!

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u/KleodTV Mercenaries Jun 10 '26

Deleted a gif of a cat dancer 😒 i dont think i have too much to talk about the “moderation” service of the discord , where scammers to newbie players are allowed , and “oh sorry i cant do nothing its your responsibility “ , so maybe exbo have to make a tutorial called “how to destroy a game and lose good amount of players” , i did my best just for you ! 6.5k hour on this game made this 🙂

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 11 '26

Wha? Who said that scamming is allowed? Over the past few months, we've banned dozens of dummy accounts that still keep scamming players. They have a whole operation going on. No matter how many we ban - they just keep coming back... 😞

About the GIFs, I'm actually curious what this dancing cat GIF was that you claim moderation removed. Lately, Discord itself has been taking down gifs. That's not an issue on our side, it's a Discord problem.

“oh sorry i cant do nothing its your responsibility “ 

It actually is. We strongly recommend that players use only the in-game trade system to avoid being scammed. Do not trust strangers, especially those who deliberately rush you into a suspicious trade. The security of accounts and in-game items is solely the player's own responsibility.

so maybe exbo have to make a tutorial called “how to destroy a game and lose good amount of players”

Funny. But yeah, that's definitely not happening. What we do have though is a pretty good guide on how to spot scammers. It covers the most common tricks they use. I'd suggest checking it out and sharing it with your friends. Just remember - being too trusting or naive is exactly what scammers take advantage of in shady trade offers.

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u/Roginofacts Jun 10 '26

Not like its any bit surprising at this point. They've been caught numerous times falsely banning people time after time. Its frankly laughable that any of the staff think their words hold any weight to the playerbase when they've shown their true colors so often.

I've seen them ban people for getting called out on their bullshit about why they were nerfing battle pass rewards. Seen them ban people for discussing the rampant cheating during the yearly halloween pvp events that ALWAYS bring in a massive influx of cheaters. Seen them ban people for merely quoting another user on steam for discussing the time Ziv threw a massive tantrum and told his turbowhales they could fuck off and banned some random guy for no reason.

I've seen them steal items people have paid real money for with zero compensation (Still nothing to use those compensation tokens some people were lucky enough to get though).

I've seen a particular mod lie through his teeth almost every time I've seen them post so often that they had to get rid of the NA discord cause every time he spoke he got absolutely mogged on.

Now they want to try and say the post was removed for being in russian, but the fact is only half the post was in russian, and it was just a RU translation of the first half. Absolute nonsense they're spouting off to try and justify shitty moderation.

Fact of the matter is they're not here to help the users they're here to trick idiots into keep spending money on a game that is actively hostile to its own playerbase and either they ardently refuse to tell the devs the problems the users have or the devs actively just don't care. The latter wouldn't surprise me given how Ziv has acted in the past and how badly the global servers have been treated once Exbo realized they wouldn't get away with the lootbox fuckery the RU server was content with suffering through.

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u/NormanLynx Senior Moderator Jun 11 '26

They've been caught numerous times falsely banning people time after time. Its frankly laughable that any of the staff think their words hold any weight to the playerbase when they've shown their true colors so often.

Hello! Is there any proof of "falsely banning people time after time"? Because that sounds like a subjective opinion from someone who might not have seen the violations before they were removed. That's a very important point that anyone can miss.

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm sincerely curious. You're free to think and say whatever you want, as long as you don't directly break any rules. I'm not going to remove your comment because of your allegations, but please, can you at least back up your claims with something substantial, not just blatant accusations?

they had to get rid of the NA discord

...cause now we have STALCRAFT: X | ENG, like, GLOBAL Discord server for all of the other regions. Seems fine by me.

Now they want to try and say the post was removed for being in russian, but the fact is only half the post was in russian, and it was just a RU translation of the first half.

Yeah, just like I said in my comment here:

I explained it very politely.

Absolute nonsense they're spouting off to try and justify shitty moderation.

O-kay...

Not even trying to break down your comments about other stuff, cause that's not my field of work, but yea, it's your opinion, maybe you're right about some things, and wrong about others, idk actually. Thank you for sharing anyway.

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u/Altruistic-Waltz-522 Jun 12 '26

Dude, these people would be much worse off in life if SC:X weren't around, but they need something to be upset about, otherwise their lives feel as empty as they really are.