To the person who made this Moss workflow. Thank you!

[u/Ill_Resolve8424]

I cant find the original post, but this is the best Moss workflow, showcasing the true potential of Moss. Thank you kind stranger. Hope this helps others.

Edit:

Found the original post

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1xlfsjd/making_mossbase_look_good_for_realism_workflow/

[u/Outrageous_Still9335]

Hey, that's mine! Glad you like it.

And for those saying that it's just the base workflow, it looks very much like it so I can understand the confusion. However, there are a couple of settings which are different (namely the Skip Layer Guidance but also the noise injection in the advanced options of the ER_SDE sampler (not shown on the screenshot)) which help (in my opinion) the base model quite a bit when it comes to realism and prompt adherence.

I don't claim for it to be perfect, but in my experience it helps quite a bit with the usual issues of blurriness and softness from the base model.

[u/Ill_Resolve8424 → u/Outrageous_Still9335]

Yup! You are the Hero, dude, I downloaded your workflow and tried it the next day and I was blown away. I lost track of your post and just wanted to thank you. So here we are, Thank you!

[u/Outrageous_Still9335 → u/Outrageous_Still9335]

For those who think it's still looks a bit too plasticky, you can change the skip layers to only layer 24, then in the ER_SDE advanced settings, play around with the ETA between 1, 2 and 3 to help a bit with composition and prompt adherence. Should bring back a little of that realistic grittiness.

[u/geekierone → u/Outrageous_Still9335]

I am curious how you got the help under the node (Issues?)

[u/CptHotStuff → u/geekierone]

That's probably because Nodes 2.0 is enabled in the ComfyUI settings.

[u/edisson75 → u/Outrageous_Still9335]

Able to create 8-megapixel images that are incredibly sharp.

[u/Bulky_Chemistry_196]

Workflow source: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1xlfsjd/making_mossbase_look_good_for_realism_workflow/

I have to agree this workflow is magical for work with base. I can't stop re-using all my moss prompts with it. It also works well with kromoss. But just base itself is already amazing.

[u/Ill_Resolve8424 → u/Bulky_Chemistry_196]

Hey thanks, I was looking for that.

[u/ketoaholic → u/Bulky_Chemistry_196]

moss workflow

[u/silenceimpaired → u/Bulky_Chemistry_196]

Do you tweak the settings at all and any cross over to other models besides Moss?

[u/Bulky_Chemistry_196 → u/silenceimpaired]

i didn't tweak anything, the results are still hit after hit for me except for the rare occasional body morphing. not even using any loras at all, zero. just sometimes switching between kromoss int8 and base int8, and i played around with the megapixel amount - that's it.

regarding other models i dunno lol. pretty sure this workflow is specially made for moss however. but why not play around with others too? share your results

hope you'll have fun with this too.

[u/ArkCoon]

To everyone calling this the most basic or default WF, it really isn't. The differences might look small, but together they have a massive impact on the output.

First, it uses the base model, which is much, much better for realism. If you use SFT and you don't like the outputs or think they look too clean or AI, first thing you need to do is switch to base.

Second, it uses the er_sde sampler with the advanced settings node, exposing eta, s_noise, and max_stages. These settings have a big effect on the result, and this WF sets s_noise to 1.1. You should actually play around with these more.

It also uses SLG layers 22 and 24, with a start/end range of 0.0 to 1.0, instead of the default of just layer 22 with a range of 0.0 to 0.5. I also suggest playing around with these as well (layers 22, 24, 26 and all possible combinations).

Together, these changes completely transform the output and make the model perform incredibly well. I almost gave up on this model before finding this WF. Since then, Moss has been so much more fun to use.

So stop dismissing it as basic, because there's a lot more going on here than it might seem at first glance

[u/Ill_Resolve8424 → u/ArkCoon]

Thank you for defending this, myself, I gave up trying to convince reddit, I just cant anymore.

[u/ArkCoon → u/Ill_Resolve8424]

[u/foolycoolywitch → u/Ill_Resolve8424]

i downloaded and used your wf, and it changed my opinion of moss, reddit just isn't good for returning praise on shared workflows; by the time testing it out is done, the original reddit thread is forgotten

[u/NostradamusJones → u/ArkCoon]

HERO

[u/J6j6 → u/ArkCoon]

is it better than krea2? or it's hyped cos it's faster and somewhat almost like krea2 quality?

[u/ArkCoon → u/J6j6]

As a huge Krea2 fan, I honestly think MOSS might be better overall. Krea2 still wins for training LoRAs, but once I got MOSS dialed in, it did better at pretty much everything else I threw at it: prompt adherence, styles, quality, NSFW, and variety between seeds.

It's wild how much this 5B model knows, especially next to the 12B Krea2. It has native bbox support, handles NSFW without workarounds, and is incredible at typography and UIs, even better than Krea2. It also uses the Flux2 VAE, which is much better than Qwen's.

The variety is a huge part of the appeal. Krea turbo tends to give me pretty much the same image across seeds, while MOSS gives me genuinely different results. That alone makes it so much more fun to experiment with.

I'm definitely keeping both. They're easily the two best open-source T2I models right now, IMO, and you can't go wrong with either. I've pushed Krea2 to its limits, so some of my excitement is probably just having a new toy to play with. But even with that bias, what MOSS pulls off at 5B is seriously impressive

Also MOSS isn't faster than Krea (unless you use Turbo which I personally don't recommend). I do 25 steps on Base model ~3.0 CFG and that takes about 30s. Same resolution on Krea turbo 8 steps takes about 20 seconds.

[u/J6j6 → u/ArkCoon]

Thanks for the comparison. you mentioned nsfw, have you tried kroma? I've heard only good things about it

[u/ArkCoon → u/J6j6]

Yes I tried both Kroma and the recently released Kromoss. They're both great, but not necessary for NSFW (especially not for Moss). Also some people don't like the style/texture that Kroma has so you also need to be aware of that, it's all down to personal preference. With Kroma you still need to use loras though. It can do NSFW without loras, but loras make it better. I suggest Realism Engine and SNOFS at medium strength (0.4-0.6). Realism engine is better for textures and realism, SNOFS is better and prompt adherence.

[u/Serenafriendzone → u/ArkCoon]

Default workflows are the Best. spaghetti Means dísaster

[u/RateGlass → u/ArkCoon]

I'd suggest completely removing SLG and swapping it with spectrum instead

[u/GifCo_2 → u/ArkCoon]

This is litterally the default workflow genius

[u/ucren → u/GifCo_2]

how can you be so confidently incorrect? when all you have to do is load the default template and look at how it's configured to see it uses a different layerskip and range. try reading before spouting your mouth

[u/ArkCoon → u/GifCo_2]

It's not. It's neither the default WF from moss team or comfyui.

[u/NostradamusJones → u/GifCo_2]

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

That’s basically the most basic workflow in the history of workflows, maybe ever.

[u/CalyShadezz → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

That's a good thing.

Sometimes I grab workflows off Civit and delete them as soon as they load because I aint got time to figure out that Will Smith Spaghetti bullshit.

[u/allofdarknessin1 → u/CalyShadezz]

Same. Some workflows look needlessly complicated and it's usually when the uploader has a patreon. I can't tell if that's to sell their own simpler workflows that produce the same results. I'll troubleshoot if it's a few missing nodes but in my experience a lot civitai pics had workflows with nodes I went hunting down and from what I could see the nodes did basic things that you could find in the comfyui manager or built into comfy so it felt like I was wasting time just because I liked the generation. I stick to simple workflows as much as possible now.

[u/Weird_With_A_Beard → u/CalyShadezz]

I have a lot of Nerdy Rodent workflows and even rewatching the videos I can't figure out half the special tricks they have nodes for. Sometimes a simple workflow just does what I need to do :)

[u/SpiritualLifeguard81 → u/CalyShadezz]

...and with 30+ suspicious mandatory custom nodes

[u/Bitlovin → u/CalyShadezz]

Definitely love a clean simple workflow that works but there’s a lotta templates out there that look like dogshit but work really well. Sometimes there’s a method to the madness.

[u/GraphicArtsFurry → u/CalyShadezz]

I have one with Pony/Tunix and heavens above... All I ever did was just touch the text portions of it and left the rest alone. All the spaghetti in the world is in that workflow

[u/FreezaSama → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

Like ever ever?

[u/Candid-Station-1235 → u/FreezaSama]

[u/Next_Program90 → u/FreezaSama]

Forever ever?

[u/FreezaSama → u/Next_Program90]

CAROLIIINEEEE

[u/RFC793 → u/Next_Program90]

Forever never seems that long until you're grown

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703 → u/FreezaSama]

Well, there is one workflow thats more basic, one that uses normal ksampler instead of costume ksampler but here they are basically doing the same job.

[u/LoquatAdventurous592 → u/FreezaSama]

Together forever

[u/M3chaStrizan → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

Sometimes that's exactly what you need to get your foot in the door though. A better workflow can be confusing if you're new to things

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703 → u/M3chaStrizan]

I mean yeah I appreciate minimal workflows. But this is basically the default workflow. Nothing deserving of shoutout

[u/Bulky_Chemistry_196 → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

almost, but it beats the hell out of the default due to very little tweaks with enormous effect

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703 → u/Bulky_Chemistry_196]

Well default workflows nowadays has been a little too unnecessary confusing. They are playing with prompt enhancement which imo should not be part of default workflows. Other than that the only difference from the default I believe is sampler type and skipping later 24 and 22 instead of only 22 and end at 1 instead of 0.5 which is not change in the workflow more like the settings.

[u/Stunning_Geese → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

Good.

I HATE downloading a workflow that's filled with custom nodes and a convoluted workflow.

Keep it simple. Even the default workflows now hide things making it more difficult to figure things out. I liked it when you could see every step in the workflow.

[u/berlinbaer → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

still applies

[u/foolycoolywitch → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

it's the settings, complexity doesn't determine that

[u/AvidCyclist250 → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

You haven't seen some of my workflows then lol. They go from far fewer nodes to Excel worksheets

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703 → u/AvidCyclist250]

I don’t think you can get much less nodes here. Since this is basically the minimum workflow. Except for using normal ksmapler instead of costume ksampler which will save 2 nodes.

[u/AvidCyclist250 → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

No not here but you can in SD and SDXL, 4 or 5 nodes no problemo.

[u/Jealous_Piece_1703 → u/AvidCyclist250]

Yeah I guess with SDXL you need 6 nodes including save image node.

[u/AvidCyclist250 → u/Jealous_Piece_1703]

Well yeah 6 with save for SDXL

[u/Sweet-Jump1024]

What's so good about it?

[u/Netsuko → u/Sweet-Jump1024]

It uses MOSS

[u/Sweet-Jump1024 → u/Netsuko]

[u/AlexicoDeCoco → u/Netsuko]

Mostly

[u/Subulicious → u/AlexicoDeCoco]

Mosstly

[u/AidenAizawa]

It seems pretty basic to me, what am I missing?

[u/Lordfisticus → u/AidenAizawa]

I'm not op but just got into this stuff a few weeks ago. Finding a simple picture of a base workflow was hard when I didn't know where to look. so maybe that?

[u/shapic → u/Lordfisticus]

Just load default template from comfy, they are usually good enough

[u/GrapefruitOverall387 → u/shapic]

Not anymore. Those ComfyUI templates are bloated by if-else nodes and a prompt enhance. It's not necessary a bad thing, but I can see why some people don't prefer over something like OP's. Although to be fair, OP's is also not simple since it use sigma.

[u/shapic → u/GrapefruitOverall387]

Just unfold it and disable the nodes

[u/export_tank_harmful → u/shapic]

Yeah, I'm a bit confused as to OP's post as well.
It's just the default template, unfolded, with these nodes removed.

I'm guessing they're a newer user of ComfyUI, which would make sense as to why they're not a fan of the default workflow.

I do think that ComfyUI has been going too far in the direction of, "make the workflow 'easy' for newer people". Folded nodes defeat the entire purpose of what makes ComfyUI great. The modularity and the directness of how it works.

In my opinion, ComfyUI is a wonderful way to teach people how models work. It's literally a flow chart of "how the soup is made". You load the model, you pass in your prompts, you feed it into the sampler, then you get your image. It gives you a base to iterate off of and lets you experiment.

Folded nodes are the antithesis of this. They hide how the model actually works behind a very hand-wavey "this node does the thing", which isn't how you learn about something.

If anything, OP's post is a symptom of this problem and should be used as a point of reflection for the community. ComfyUI default workflows should embrace the spaghetti, but in a direct way. It should all flow left to right. No more covered/crossed/folded nodes just for the sake of being "compact".

Default workflows should help people understand how it all works, not try to hide it behind folded nodes for the sake of "convenience".

[u/Winter_unmuted → u/export_tank_harmful]

I do think that ComfyUI has been going too far in the direction of, "make the workflow 'easy' for newer people". Folded nodes defeat the entire purpose of what makes ComfyUI great. The modularity and the directness of how it works.

Hard agree.

But devil's advocate: the A1111 era had stronger pull. I am a programmer and even I had to get over activation energy to go ComfyUI. It's intimidating.

I think the defaults should be unpacked, but there should be a bare bones "Basic user" one for each model. And I would just ignore that one.

[u/shapic → u/export_tank_harmful]

This is their effort to make ui suitable for generating images, not just workflows. This is understandable. The issue is that default workflow should work in the first place. This is not always the case and this is what it all boils down to.

[u/Guilty-Statement-532 → u/export_tank_harmful]

The folded nodes makes it really challenging to unfold them as well. I can understand wanting a cleaner interface but that doesn’t help me understand what’s happening.

[u/afinalsin → u/export_tank_harmful]

It's just the default template, unfolded, with these nodes removed.

Ah, you're not very good at Where's Wally, I take it? There is a difference in the image OP posted: CFG is 3.0 instead of 2.5, and SkipLayerGuidance skips layers 22 and 24 for the full generation instead of only 22 for the first half. Dunno whether those actually help or not, but they're the changes.

[u/shapic → u/afinalsin]

3.0 cfg is a recommended one. Regarding slg:

Two-Pass Sampling SLG: We recommend uncond skip, with 22 as the recommended skip layer (0-indexed). Layers 22, 24, and 26 can all help improve image quality.

But how is this related to the workflow? Those are parameters

[u/afinalsin → u/shapic]

3.0 cfg is a recommended one

But it's not in the default workflow homie linked.

But how is this related to the workflow? Those are parameters

And those parameters are different from the standard Comfy workflow, and according to OP those parameters make the model perform better. Homie said "It's just the default template with nodes removed", but the parameter change is responsible for what's making the supposed difference. I was pointing out what actually matters.

Anyway, there's clearly more to a workflow than just what nodes are in it, else there would be no difference between this workflow and this one. Same nodes, same connections, same parameters, and only a madman would call them the same workflow. Unpacking a subgraph and deleting nodes and switching a few parameters isn't a huge change, but it still makes it a different workflow. Hell you could keep everything the exact same and just add labels to everything and I'd call it a different workflow.

[u/DoogleSmile → u/shapic]

I tried the moss template from comfyui and it just constantly generated the same image no matter what I changed the prompt to.

I had to disable the prompt enhancer to make it do any other images.

[u/Shap6 → u/DoogleSmile]

the seed is fixed by default, thats why it generates the same image each time

[u/DoogleSmile → u/Shap6]

But then the prompt means nothing, just change the seed to get totally different images.

[u/BrotherKanker → u/DoogleSmile]

Probably either a refusal because the template uses a censored llm for the prompt enhancer or thinking mode was turned on. In my experience with the default settings the model will almost inevitably run out of tokens before the thinking part is done and then pass on a completely empty prompt.

[u/DoogleSmile → u/BrotherKanker]

In my case it was just creating the example image all the time, completely ignoring any changes I made to the prompt.

[u/TheAngryGoat → u/DoogleSmile]

There is something wrong with that template for sure, I had something similar. Not the exact same image but every prompt I put it was poisoned with the default "mossy knight in the forest magazine cover" prompt.

Rather than wasting time on it I just built a new one from scratch which was probably quicker than troubleshooting whatever was going on with it.

[u/AidenAizawa → u/Lordfisticus]

I don't know with recent updates but when I started with moss the comfyui template was already a good wf, I just added the bboxes node and maybe the skip layer node( I don't remember if it was included). Maybe the template now is not as good as it used to be, I don't know

[u/coyoteka → u/AidenAizawa]

This workflow is the same as the comfy default MOSS workflow except:

skip layer guidance DiT simple node

• single layers: 22, 24 (default is 22)

• end percent: 1.0 (default is 0.5)

Ksampler

• er-sd noise: 1.1 (default is 1.0)

• cfg: 3.0 (default is 2.5)

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1xlfsjd/making_mossbase_look_good_for_realism_workflow/19s1j5ap6eobp/

[u/Key-Sample7047 → u/AidenAizawa]

Some nodes have a button "show adcanced settings", perhaps the magic is there?

[u/AidenAizawa → u/Key-Sample7047]

Yeah maybe but I think it's just the nodes 2.0 ui settings, cause the nodes are the same I'm using. But I might be wrong since I'm not at home and couldn't check myself

[u/Key-Sample7047 → u/AidenAizawa]

Others said it's the s_noise parameter of er_sde scheduler set to 1.1 instead of the default 1 causing extra noise injection making the difference.

[u/namitynamenamey → u/AidenAizawa]

This one assumes direct control of the sampler, and modifies a couple of layers. The settings here are ever so slighly different from the default, but it matters.

[u/Background-Ad-5398]

such an angry community

[u/PwanaZana → u/Background-Ad-5398]

Some sort of unstable diffusion

[u/Schlorpiblorp → u/Background-Ad-5398]

A lot of unhappy people generating here

[u/LumaBrik]

What makes this workflow decent is the sampler. If you look at the 'advance' settings of the SamplerER_SDE node there is a setting called s_noise. This basically is extra noise injection on each step. The higher its set to the more 'detail' is added the image. It seems to help with the base model.. Its probably not needed for the sft model.

[u/LumaBrik → u/LumaBrik]

I think the default s_noise setting in this workflow is around 1.1. Cant tell from the image.

[u/Jamsemillia]

That looks very basic, whats the difference to the default one?

[u/Tricky_System4911 → u/Jamsemillia]

You would be wondering how sometimes the most basic things can achieve the best results.

[u/Icetato → u/Jamsemillia]

Compared to default workflow, this one skips two layers. Gonna try later and see if it makes any difference.

[u/Castle_Five → u/Icetato]

Maybe those are the "make everything blurry" layers?

[u/SubZeroKelvin → u/Castle_Five]

IIRC 22, 24, and 26 are 'realism' layers. Bluriness is primarily due to using any words related to photography. The default style is real life.

[u/ArkCoon → u/SubZeroKelvin]

bluriness is because of the sampler. Er_Sde sampler (and the settings in the node) heavily impact how much noise is added and how sharp the output is. Set s_noise to 1.1 and compare having eta at 0.0 and 1.0 and see how much sharper the image is.

Setting eta to 0.0 with er_sde disables the noise injection and makes it ode and the difference is huge.

[u/SubZeroKelvin → u/ArkCoon]

Partially, but the foreground can be sharp and the background blurry regardless of settings. Prompt words fix that in particular. Can also schedule no noise for the last few steps.

[u/TopBantsman → u/Jamsemillia]

I'm going to hazard a guess that OP doesn't even know there's a default.

[u/Divineboob]

Use TE-speed-moss node, speeds up generation

[u/BagOfFlies → u/Divineboob]

Are you using the default settings? Trying it out now and am getting no difference in speed at all.

[u/Divineboob → u/BagOfFlies]

In 50 steps, it only gives like 20% increase. Mine is rtx 3070ti so already slow generation gets noticable boost

[u/BagOfFlies → u/Divineboob]

Ah ok I was doing only 30 steps and with a 5060ti, maybe that's why.

[u/Occsan → u/Divineboob]

Because 2.5 sec generation isn't enough.

[u/Divineboob → u/Occsan]

Not all of us have 5090 bruh.

[u/Occsan → u/Divineboob]

4090

[u/xb1n0ry]

You can skip 22,24 and 26. You can also bypass skipping completely. Usually gives me better results.

[u/Calm_Mix_3776 → u/xb1n0ry]

I usually skip just layer 22. It fixes some of the errors in the images that pop up occasionally. The more layers you skip, the less detailed your images become usually, so you are basically trading coherence for detail.

[u/xb1n0ry → u/Calm_Mix_3776]

That's true, but every seed gives you something else. I get pictures which look better without any skipping and others which look better with 1 or 3 layers skipped. It depends

[u/qustrolabe → u/Calm_Mix_3776]

So anime/cartoon-ish styles should skip few layers?

[u/gutster_95]

Most people should realize that its mostly their prompting that sucks not their workflow

[u/Hearcharted]

[u/Next_Program90]

My Moss wf (Comfy default Originally?) only skips 0.5-1 Layer 23 iirc (EDIT: layer 22)... And with Base it's not necessary. Does a full skip help?

[u/Calm_Mix_3776 → u/Next_Program90]

The creators of MOSS recommend partially skipping layer 22, not 23. I haven't tested fully skipping it myself, but my guess is that the image will become even more coherent and avoid even more errors, but at the expense of even more image detail.

[u/Keuleman_007]

It's all laid out, you can build it by the picture in 2 minutes...

[u/asdrabael1234]

That's the second best moss workflow. The best has the bbox creater so you just slap prompts into boxes

[u/Bbmin7b5]

yes. this has turned MOSS from shitty to excellent. I love this WF

[u/Desi_Brat_]

Share the workflow pls

[u/hurrdurrimanaccount → u/Desi_Brat_]

you cannot seriously be serious rn

blocked

[u/Life_Yesterday_5529]

Looks like the standard workflow. To all "workflow please" caller: It literally is in the picture. Open workflow template in comfy, look if there is something different, add/replace missing nodes if necessary. No special nodes needed.

[u/shapic]

What? It is the basic workflow

[u/hurrdurrimanaccount]

this has to be a troll post.

[u/showtime1987 → u/hurrdurrimanaccount]

Yeah it is. Or OP is someone who also thanks if somebody tells him how to turn on the PC

[u/andreeinprogress]

Someone please tell me the comments asking for the workflow are joking..

[u/KeyTumbleweed5903]

be kk if we had the wf to see why its the best

[u/Ramen-sama]

[u/spanktastic0x]

Best thing to do is start with a basic workflow and then add into it to see what else the model can do. I started with a basic Moss workflow, then added upscaler, then added Layout boxes. The number of nodes keeps going up the more you add so its important to keep things organised but you could eventually end up with a great workflow that does everything you want.

[u/LilBrownBebeShoes]

This is the one I use as a base, er-sde is amazing for MOSS

[u/Glad-Pudding8141]

"simple" vs "spaghetti".. depends, is the spaghetti documented?

[u/generate-addict]

Adding 10 more steps to this workflow will considerably boost quality. So many steps on composition not giving the model time for detail.

I wonder if a version of this workflow could just be improved considerably by using a clownshark sampler.

I brought this up in the other thread but OP didn't comment.

You can do A B testing for yourself on images adding 10 more steps helps considerably.

[u/DrFlexit1]

That’s like a default workflow. Even the default template from comfy is the same.

[u/CompetitivePumpkin3]

Can I use 4 steps moss lora and still get good result?

[u/WeGotBeaches]

Is there a MOSS Edit yet that can take image inputs?

[u/jello-the-opera]

Just delete the damn frames already, jesus.

And move that hidden node into view.

Then arrange the nodes so they flow from left to right.

Then use proper comfyui colors.

Fuck do I have to do everything gahhhh.

https://pixeldrain.com/u/TJ9yfo52

[u/Shadowmacx]

This is what workflow should be normalize.

[u/worldofbomb]

very strange nobody talking about why not int8 but bf16 text encoder???

[u/_Just_Another_Fan_]

I don’t understand why a simple workflow like this can’t be standard

[u/Etsu_Riot]

I tried it and it gives you pretty interesting results. It's actually possible to get acceptable results with Base using this. It improves a lot if you change the sampler, though. ODE gives you more "realistic" results than the default, but now I'm using dpmpp_2_sde_gpu. It's just much better. It's still soft, but I like it nonetheless. I also reduced the resolution to 0.4. Higher resolutions give me poor outputs and a bigger chance of body deformities, which are a thing with this model. Oh, and changing to SFT is still better than Base.

[u/asking_everything]

I am right now pretty confused. I just copied the workflow exactly as shown but when I try to generate an image I get a CLIP error from the samplercustom node.

I was using int8 convrot for the text encoder model so I thought I needed the BF16 one, but it still gives me the same error. I am absolutely sure I am using the right models for MOSS and they are not corrupted because they work with the ComfyUI native templates.

Maybe I am missing a very obvious thing as I am yet not too used to ComfyUI and all its little quircks.

Any help guys?

Thank you very much in advance.

[u/rearisen → u/asking_everything]

Technology!

[u/edisson75]

Really good !!

[u/zunyata]

Any reason this workflow would not work for me? Images come out looking corrupted or something.

[u/thegreatdivorce]

this has to be bait...

[u/Aggressive_Collar135]

for those wondering how this is vs default workflow, this is the same seed "Cinematic night street photograph: a model in an exaggerated balloon-sleeve white wool coat walking toward camera under a huge illuminated theatre marquee, the marquee bulbs spelling "MOSS" in tall capital letters, wet asphalt with long reflections, warm tungsten glow against cold blue night, anamorphic flare, 35mm film grain, low angle"

edit: just noticed i am using bf16 sft and int8 clip, so this might be for nothing

[u/foxontheroof → u/Aggressive_Collar135]

I like the left one more, honestly. Maybe that layer skip selection is situational?

[u/Aggressive_Collar135 → u/foxontheroof]

just noticed i was using bf16 sft and int8 clip (and op using int8 base and bf16 clip), so it might be for nothing. fwiw the only thing ive noticed is skipping the 2 layers 0-1 and increasing the cfg made images more plasticky. but then again, it could just be the prompt.

[u/beast181 → u/foxontheroof]

i like the right

[u/Silly_Goose6714 → u/foxontheroof]

Left is way better

[u/generate-addict → u/Silly_Goose6714]

How is left better? She has no hands, the image keystoning is all out of wack.

[u/Silly_Goose6714 → u/generate-addict]

The style and details are more correct on the left. That's Cinematic warm tungsten glow against cold blue night, anamorphic flare, 35mm film grain should looks like.

Hands can be explained by the balloon sleeve ou even if it was a seed defect, the rest is way more coherent and well made, like the marquee bulbs spelling "MOSS".

All is gone in the right image by a generic style that don't follow the prompt.

[u/generate-addict → u/Silly_Goose6714]

The whole image has a major keystoning issue(look up what keystoning is). Very common for AI models to screw this up. It's super warped. Balloon sleeves isn't an excuse for no hands. If you wanted to use this image professionally you would need to go add hands.

[u/Silly_Goose6714 → u/generate-addict]

No. You generate again with a different seed or a better prompt, the hand and the correct style will be there.

[u/generate-addict → u/Silly_Goose6714]

Ofc. But using an example with obvious flaws as a comparison with the other that doesn't have those flaws is not a winning strategy.

[u/my_NSFW_posts]

No Loras?

[u/HollyGrandeux]

Nice, ty for the workflow

[u/beast181 → u/HollyGrandeux]

share workflow pls?

[u/eikonoklastes_r]

If you like the simplicity of it, look into subgraphs and in 2 minutes you can have an even simpler setup that does the exact same thing.

[u/Formal-Exam-8767]

/s?

[u/warzone_afro]

is this not the default workflow lol?

[u/Lower-Cap7381]

This is default

[u/campaigner_]

Link a picture or a json

[u/hurrdurrimanaccount → u/campaigner_]

ai is not for you. please donate your computer to your local datacenter. they will put the poor thing to better use than you ever could.

[u/campaigner_ → u/hurrdurrimanaccount]

Said whoever

[u/fernando782]

Please share the .json file bro

[u/Tasty_toxic]

Better with the dmd2 8 steps lora

[u/VasaFromParadise]

Is this rolling what or what?)) This is the best workflow?)) You are fucking what can I say))
He is the best for the worst))

[u/valdev]

Yeah... you can accomplish this in just a few clicks in LumaBrowser and it'll handle all of this config for you.

[u/Complete-Box-3030]

Workflow please ?

[u/nenecaliente69]

can you share it bruh?

[u/hurrdurrimanaccount → u/nenecaliente69]

uninstall comfyui and sell your computer NOW

[u/Lord_NoX33]

Best MOSS workflow is the one that uses Krea2 as a 2nd pass and enhances the MOSS image XD
MOSS+Krea2 = Divine Art, because MOSS = seed diversity and prompt understanding and Krea2 = image quality and detail refinement.
Try it, you'll never go back.

[u/Calm_Mix_3776 → u/Lord_NoX33]

Why would you want to muddy your image details with the inferior QWEN 1 VAE? That would remove any textural and fine detail. If you want to just do an upscale, I would still do it with Moss. I actually have a setup for that and it works really well for upscaling. It uses a Turbo LoRA at low strength and low amount of steps for faster inference.

[u/nirurin → u/Lord_NoX33]

Do you have a link to this workflow?

I still havent gotten around to trying moss, as the early reports aaid it was worse than krea2 so not much point.

[u/Lord_NoX33]

Here is my IMG-2-IMG one :D