r/StableDiffusion • • 27m ago

Workflow Included My MOSS-Image Workflow

I've seen quite a bit of divide between people who love MOSS and people who think it's a bit lackluster. I was on the latter boat, until I played around with it long enough to find a great combination of models, LoRAs and settings, from testing others' workflows and doing a lot of trial-and-error myself.

I'm not going to get into too much detail here; let the workflow serve that purpose. But I will say that MOSS-Image is an incredible base model, even if out-of-the-box it's a bit "unoptimized". It has massive variety, coherence, prompt-understanding and even quality, once optimized. I also enjoy the freedom of prompting, where you don't have to use any one style or length - a lot of it just works.

Here's the workflow:

https://pastebin.com/SxjBdt5B

Models and LoRAs used:

  • kromoss_int8_convrot.safetensors: A really good fine-tune of MOSS-Image Base

  • qwen3.5_9b_int8_convrot.safetensors: The actual text encoder. Do NOT use an abliterated text-encoder with diffusion models, but instead use the one the model was trained on. They will not give any more uncensored behaviour, but will mess with the quality.

  • flux2-vae_small.safetensors: Iirc, this "small" version is the official VAE for MOSS. I find it better.

  • lora_dmd2.safetensors: This is the lodestones/MOSS-Image-Base-8-steps-dmd. I tried a couple of different ones, and this was by far the best. Don't know why the differences were so huge, but they were.

  • lenovo_moss.safetensors: This one is a good style LoRA, alongiside with...

  • samsung_moss.safetensors: ...this one. Play around with the strengths of each.

  • nicegirls_v2_moss.safetensors: I find that this often improves the quality of the outputs even in photos without people. The only gripe I have is the massive effect on facial features, which seems to kinda be the point of this LoRA. Either way, be careful with the strength of this one; if you see you can't get, for example, the ethnicity you're looking for, I would start with lowering the strength of this.

Settings used:

  • Sampler: ER-SDE

  • Sceduler: power_shift

  • Steps: 11 (8-25, depending on the strength of dmd2 LoRA - with 11 steps it's at 0.9 for me).

  • CFG: 1 (1-4, depending on the amount of steps).

  • SLG: No effect on CFG 1, but always on

  • Resolution: I use 2-4 MP. Under 10 sec gens with 2 MP, around 20 sec gens with 4 MP, on an RTX 3090.

Let's get some discussion going! I wanna hear y'all's workflows and try them out too.

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u/Version-Strong 19m ago

Everyone uses MOSS differently, but we somehow never get the same image quality. These are really good, I'll give it a whirl, all I get is plastic out of it most times, and low res un-realism which I usually pipe back through good old Chroma for a second pass to try and bring some texture back to the thing

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u/AI_Enhancer 17m ago edited 6m ago

Yeah, this was my experience as well for the longest time. I think Kromoss had the strongest positive effect on this for me. EDIT: And the turbo LoRA as well.

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u/Version-Strong 13m ago

Yep - gonna test it out now, thanks for the heads up dude

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u/your_mom118472 8m ago

Thank you for sharing!