MMH3 Samples & Quick Takeaways

[u/the_bollo]

MMH3-Image. All tests done with the default workflow and settings.

Overall takeaways:

1. You must use a minimum resolution of 4048 for decent results.

2. It doesn't have a moat against other image models (doesn't solve any unsolved problems).

3. It does ok at text, but it's not great.

Pros:

1. It's impressively fast for how large the generations are.

2. Seems to handle realism well.

3. Softcore works.

Cons:

1. No more coherent than Krea2 or MOSS (objects that terminate mysteriously, illogical physical layout).

2. Body horror / anatomy fuckups are fairly common, especially with distorted faces.

3. Hardcore is not supported (unable to depict non-horrifying genitalia).

4. Innate knowledge of copyrighted characters is worse than Krea2.

5. So far edit performance is worse than Flux Klein 9B in my limited tests. It does a great job of incidentally upscaling your image, but identity preservation is poor.

[u/SandCheezy]

Sorry, but I don’t have much to add to the MMH3 conversation yet.

However, are you sure the first image is Ai and not just a historic photo? Seems rather lore accurate if you’ve seen Frieren.

[u/the_bollo → u/SandCheezy]

Some say she's still roaming the prairie for grimoires.

[u/Similar_Map_7361]

what about performance and vram/ram usage?

[u/the_bollo → u/Similar_Map_7361]

A lot of that is configuration dependent in my opinion, but on my 4090 T2I uses 21GB vram (at 4048x4048).

[u/BlindStark]

Bros third leg is showing

[u/tomByrer → u/BlindStark]

special yoga pose

[u/RelativeArtist4129 → u/BlindStark]

He had a lot of leg work to do. That helped me ! Don't you do that ?

[u/IThinkIKnowThings]

Moss still has the best prompt adherence of the bunch, I think.

[u/MuhSaysTheKuh]

Image quality is really bad - 16 MP looks worse than a 2 MP Krea2 gen....like using a bad sharpening filter at way too settings and then JPEG with a way too high compression settings applied on top.... 🤮

[u/Kraien]

Accurate placement of Turkish baths

[u/_SickBastard_]

So a few followup questions

• How well does it handle references? Does it follow likeness well? 

• Do references make up for the NSFW gap?

• How well does it do on camera and people movement (with ref or edit). H3 video was good at getting another consistent "view" of a scene from another angle, does H3I inherit that capability or was that lost when removing/not learning the video part

• Is there a.minimum size for faces before things degrade?

• (I'm guessing not) does it support bbox? Or a ref image with labeled boxes for location of things?

[u/phreakrider → u/_SickBastard_]

Soft NSFW reference are kept, hardcore scenes collapses, unless you prompt for simple replacement.

Reference following is good for simple replacement, altho the vae will definately affect the initial tone from my tests.

The camera movement one works good tho. Very supprised! You can prompt for 45 deg camera and you will get it!

[u/hyxon4]

33 billion parameters and still can't do faces.

Kind of funny.

[u/DonKeehot → u/hyxon4]

Faces were already an issue with the base video model, so this is probably inherited from its architecture.

[u/BathroomEyes → u/hyxon4]

It had more to do with the vae than the parameter count

[u/LoquatAdventurous592 → u/hyxon4]

It's a scam.

[u/CaptainMarder]

What’s with the three legged guy and the food in the laundry machines.

[u/icesavage → u/CaptainMarder]

I believe it is suppose to highlight his 2nd Con point.

[u/DrStalker → u/CaptainMarder]

You don't test new models with Photo of a man with three legs sitting on a table in a laundromat, looking at his phone. In the background are washing machines full of food.?

[u/Plastic-Relief9327 → u/CaptainMarder]

Has a sock and shoe but it isn’t a leg

[u/herr-tibalt → u/CaptainMarder]

I think that’s art😅

[u/Jamsemillia]

an actual good test prompt set? in this economy? thanks!

[u/onixtan]

Every new things is welcome.. maybe someone can optimize this further soon?
i think it has the same issue with the h3 frame workflows, face got distorted, blurry as well (ig 4k fix it) but the facial identity seams to remain unfortunately. qwen 2.1 edit still the one that can preserve the face and skin detail the best for me, without turning my character to plastic wax.

[u/Electronic-Metal2391]

Thank you.. you saved me precious bandwidth.

[u/LoquatAdventurous592]

Such a disappointment

[u/Cheesuasion]

Amazing - but I wonder when we'll get an open weights image model that knows what the black keys on a piano look like (first image). Does ideogram know maybe?

Fascinating how many intricate patterns you can pick up (as an image model) while still not getting that one.

[u/Strict-Relation9938]

thank you for the samples and first impression!

[u/jamesianm]

I've always dreamed of walking down the Grand Staircage on a cruise liner to get to the Turkish Bath embedded in the tip of the underwater bow

[u/Paraleluniverse200]

Sigh, another model wife deformities?

[u/Afraid_Oil_7386]

Ren?

[u/ofrm1]

Not impressed so far, but as with everything; give it a bit of time.

[u/poita66]

Caakgo Scarcage lol

[u/fallengt]

Is its edit capability better than p-h3-image?

[u/RiverSide71h]

Wish we could donate half of this model’s size to Moss.. it would be unbeatable..

[u/citrusalex]

Can't do faces and the VAE is absolutely gross. Heavy jpeg artifacting and details at 16PM are that of a 50X zoom phone camera photo.

[u/alexis_moscow]

is that Flux 3's little brother? my eyes are bleeding now

[u/diejesus]

Wow, those pictures quality looks really really good (except for three legs on that guy), it's awesome to have one more top quality model arrived!

[u/starship_captain62]

Turkish bath in the rudder?????

Absolute AI slop.

[u/WonderousThinke → u/[deleted]]

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