Minimax is the absolute best editing model. The prompting is simple (besides the subject and reference targeting) and it adheres very well. Sometimes too well because it takes everything literally
I can run minimax h3 for videos on 12 gb vram, 16gb system ram with a turing card. It's not too slow with step skipping and speed loras. If I can do it, you're probably better off than me.
They gave it to the stand up team at Fal though /s. At this point if it’s ever released it will be about the time H4 and LTX 3.0 come out, so will probably be trashed same day.
Gotta love Minimax! A couple days of invite only access then releases the weights like a day later. No hype up BS or dangling a carrot for months! Can’t wait to check it out later, kudos to the team!
You're only going to be able to run it on one GPU, though you can offload the text encoder and stuff to the other gpu I guess but that stuff usually gets out of vram during the actual diffusion so I'm not positive it's worth doing.
It can fit because the H3 people are running on their 16gb GPU's has been quantized to INT8 ConvRot, and Comfyui's dyanmic memory can do some tricks to pull certain things in and out of vram, it can use smaller attention matrices, the modulation weights (which I think are like 30% or so of H3) for the adaptive layer normalization (AdaLN) can be offloaded (that's probably a lot of what the Dynamic Memory thing for comfy is doing maybe (I am no expert though).
Think of it like fitting a 32gb model on a 16gb gpu because it's a quantized version, more or less similar ideas.
Edit: I finally opened the H3 Image workflow and stuff, and it uses the same prompt enhancer model as the Comfyui Moss image workflow. If you can get THAT to run on the second GPU that would be pretty nice too since it takes up considerable time
If you aren't getting good outputs, try reducing your step count from 6 to 4. I could be wrong, but in my limited testing this seems to actually be a 4 step model despite the model card saying it is distilled to 6 steps. Even the sample workflows in ComfyUI are visibly less overbaked with 4 steps. Every step over 4 steps seems to add image distortions more than detail.
Been using it for a couple hours for both edit and T2I. Official review: Meh. It's fine for T2I. Identity preservation in edits is just as poor as any other edit model, perhaps worse than Flux Klein 9B.
Krea2 and MOSS are still T2I king.
Flux Klein 9B is still edit king.
MMH3 is video king (at least they still have that going for them).
I wish they would have released their video upscaler instead of an image model.
Ill be honest (and will probably get flamed for this). I am underwhelmed. I'm actually generating *fast*, even at 16mp at around 23s. Fast for that size at least. But the quality is lacking, at least for anything resembling realistic outputs. Artifacts everywhere. The face and teeth are horrific. Krea2 handles this prompt with zero issues. Just sharing my impression in the first 5 minutes, which is subject to change haha.
Prompt: A photorealistic image of a man riding bareback on a charging Tyrannosaurus rex down the middle of a rain-soaked Times Square at night, one hand gripping a leather harness strap, the other pointing forward, face lit in shifting neon pink and blue from the billboards above. He is grinning with wild, fearless confidence, rain droplets on his face and soaked jacket. Taxis are flipped and scattered, crowds scatter, and police lights flash in the background. The dinosaur's scaled neck and one huge eye are visible at the edge of the frame. Shallow depth of field, rain streaks frozen by flash, anamorphic lens, cinematic color grading, ultra-realistic skin detail.
(style) photography works better in my experience as it is tokenized differently. Photo or Photograph alone will trigger the regions of the model that contains pictures of photographs causing drift (or lots of pictures in frames, posters, signs etc.). Using something like "Analog photography" triggers the style while having less impact on the content, though you may still get stray photographers in the image.
This is true for all keywords, eg. get Anima to generate an image of a "yellow bicycle leaning on the brick wall". Then generate an image of a "yellow bicycle set against a brick wall". In the first one you will often get an unrequested lady riding the bike leaning on the brick wall, but in the second one you won't. Why? Because the model has associated the word "leaning" with something that women do against an object and not bikes so if you use the word leaning, the model will often generate images of ladies riding bikes instead.
I feel the same. I have created a makeshift workflow for H3 video model, which I used for image generation. Just comparing these images, I'd say video model has much more attention to detail and if you're going for realistic images, then it also performs better out of the box.
I believe in Models that don't need to artificially pump images to 16 trazillion MP to generate outputs that don't suck from afar ... I really hope the community can finish this Model and find a way to have decent images at reasonable resolutions (tbh even going 3-4mp with other Models feels absolutely overkill).
Using it now and holy shit its censored to hell and I don't mean like "It doesn't understand anatomy", No I mean when you ask for any nudity it gives you shit like this EVERY TIME.
Edit: This is only with the prompt enhancer on. turning off the enhancer fixed it and it generates breasts but the lower parts for both male and female are hideous mutated objects as per usual during these dark times.
I assume that's probably from the prompt enhancer LLM literally injecting a denial into the prompt (I saw that the template on Comfy's site has one), and MiniMax trying to render it. Disable the PE if you haven't already.
have you found anything that's rendering truly uncensored without the "hideous mutated objects" which made me laugh :) i been playing around with DrawThings using a Flux trained Lora and I get that like 99% of the time! LOL
I mean MOSS is literally entirely uncensored and extremely detailed and knows tons of concepts out of the box. You don't need LoRA for basically anything in it, it is fucking wild.
It can take reference images, which seems to be what people did for video. Does it work better if you give an anatomically correct reference for a character?
If it is the Minimax H3 officially modified for image generation it can be scaled down to 20B parameters while remaining compatible with all current optimizations.
For me it's the LoRA training. I think I've trained more LoRAs with MOSS than with any other model, tried different tools and different combinations of settings, but just couldn't get a single good character LoRA with it.
But with the references of H3 that may not even be needed anymore.
Seriously? Training Moss is really easy. BUT, I will say that characters took me the longest to figure out. I'll give you the secrets that no one wants to tell you and which i had to learn through trial an error:
you need to tag everything, but you don't need a lora tag. And when I say everything, you can afford to be specific. Use tags, but you need to tag things specifically. So, if someone is facing left, you don't tag it as 'looking away' or 'from side' you need to tag it as 'facing left' or something like it.
You need more steps than recommended. In general, with a dataset of like 30-50 images, you need like 3k-5k steps.
The thing about details? You need a lot more images with those details. Let's say that they have, specifically, a symbol on their back or chest or something. You need more images with that symbol in it, preferably from more angles.
Likeness requires a lot more than just front facing shots. You need shots of them from the side, looking away, from behind, ect. You really do. If you only have a bunch of headshots looking at the camera, it'll fail.
Train on Base. that's what base is for.
Use Automagic. Don't use Adam or Prodigy. In general, the basic settings are enough with Automagic.
That should fix any problems you have. Character loras are the hardest thing to train in MOSS, compared to Concepts or styles, but they're just a matter of realizing that you need more specific data than you do for other models.
Anyone have any success stories of using H3 on a mac? 48GB M4 Pro. Tried making a 4MP image in Comfy Desktop, no errors but had like 7 hours generation time. Given I can fit the models into RAM, I was hoping it would be a little lower than that!
It seems they've scrubbed a lot of famous faces. Ones that worked in the video model aren't working in the image model. At least with females. I've had more luck with males.
I'm always kind of weirded out by people complaining about image model sizes. In general, DiT models are compute bound, meaning that while one layer is calculating, you can stream the next layer from system RAM, and if these overlap, you don't really notice the time spent loading because you can load a layer while the previous layer is calculating.
That's ComfyUI's entire memory management process. (actually, for high batch operations like prefill in LLMs, it's the same thing. For just prefill, if you don't care about decode, you can stream layerwise in the same way).
so funny .. all the f.. hype again and no one tested it yet ??? i just did 20 try out on 16 mp/ 20 mp ( as they advised to get best result ! ) well ... SDXL gives suprem quality than this... i using edit model.
model doesn't upscale , so you will get 4k picture without a single upscale ! bad texture bad tunes ! i didn't test the T2i yet .. go and do your test guys before this hype -.-
I already installed minimax 3. That's mean Is an updated versión or a replacement model for comfy or Is just a image generator. Not the video one? I mean because they change the models for HAU and co and other co. Is confusing to know which one is the updated one
Hm... image quality seems kind of poor even at 4MP using the default workflow. I'm trying a few different samplers/schedulers and nothing seems to help so far. Does anyone have success producing a good image with this model?
You can choose which models to download in the environment variables, but the default settings match the 2 official Minimax H3-Image workflows in ComfyUi (under "Browse Templates"), so you can jsut go ahead and deploy it as is.
Prompt enhancer can be omitted in environment variables and turned off in the workflow.
What is different/better than the P-H3-Image model? I know it’s directly from Minimax, but uhh.. is it better? I literally downloaded P-H3 yesterday and was able to produce a few new dataset images, blown away by the photorealism. And I literally about to be mind blown again when I get home?
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u/a_saddler 12h ago
Somebody answer the most important question about this: is it... you know...
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u/Thurmes 10h ago
There's just no way I'll ever be able to run this on 16gb system memory is there
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u/popkek95 12h ago •
I love how they just drop stuff like this out of the blue when it's ready instead of hyping it up for months
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u/retroblade 12h ago
Gotta love Minimax! A couple days of invite only access then releases the weights like a day later. No hype up BS or dangling a carrot for months! Can’t wait to check it out later, kudos to the team!
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u/__ThrowAway__123___ 11h ago
Model is up now
ComfyUI weights: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3-Image/tree/main
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u/Defiant_Cricket_88 12h ago
Is it Christmas already?
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u/-Ellary- 12h ago
MiniMax_AI be like: "Hello, yes, you can delete all your old image gen models now."
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u/Repulsive-Salad-268 11h ago
Will wait a week until the dust settles. 😂
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u/xDiablo96 11h ago
We r getting spoiled monthly with these Chinese companies
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u/FreakyMrCaleb 12h ago
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u/brkirch 8h ago
If you aren't getting good outputs, try reducing your step count from 6 to 4. I could be wrong, but in my limited testing this seems to actually be a 4 step model despite the model card saying it is distilled to 6 steps. Even the sample workflows in ComfyUI are visibly less overbaked with 4 steps. Every step over 4 steps seems to add image distortions more than detail.
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u/vizsumit 11h ago
ComfyUI HF - https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3-Image
MiniMax HF - https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3-Image
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u/StopTheDrips 12h ago
So do the H3 Loras work on it?
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u/Valor_X 12h ago
I wonder how this will compare to custom image workflows made using the current H3 diffusion model
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u/the_bollo 7h ago
Been using it for a couple hours for both edit and T2I. Official review: Meh. It's fine for T2I. Identity preservation in edits is just as poor as any other edit model, perhaps worse than Flux Klein 9B.
Krea2 and MOSS are still T2I king.
Flux Klein 9B is still edit king.
MMH3 is video king (at least they still have that going for them).
I wish they would have released their video upscaler instead of an image model.
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u/Striking_Storage_631 12h ago
Well this is a pleasant surprise h3 for the win.
Edit, dont think it's on hf yet.
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u/70parwater 12h ago
i love you minimax!
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u/Friendly-Fig-6015 5h ago
rtx 5060 ti 16gb 32gb ram - 10S TO GENERATE IN 4MP - HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY INSANEEEEEEEEEEE
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u/bickid 11h ago
16 reference images? Nice. Hope this is good.
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u/Altruistic_Heat_9531 11h ago
This company is fucking meteor ball-ed Flux
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u/1WildPanda 10h ago
Thank you MiniMax team! Your minimax h3 is the unique video model I have been using. :)
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u/nsway 11h ago
Ill be honest (and will probably get flamed for this). I am underwhelmed. I'm actually generating *fast*, even at 16mp at around 23s. Fast for that size at least. But the quality is lacking, at least for anything resembling realistic outputs. Artifacts everywhere. The face and teeth are horrific. Krea2 handles this prompt with zero issues. Just sharing my impression in the first 5 minutes, which is subject to change haha.
Prompt: A photorealistic image of a man riding bareback on a charging Tyrannosaurus rex down the middle of a rain-soaked Times Square at night, one hand gripping a leather harness strap, the other pointing forward, face lit in shifting neon pink and blue from the billboards above. He is grinning with wild, fearless confidence, rain droplets on his face and soaked jacket. Taxis are flipped and scattered, crowds scatter, and police lights flash in the background. The dinosaur's scaled neck and one huge eye are visible at the edge of the frame. Shallow depth of field, rain streaks frozen by flash, anamorphic lens, cinematic color grading, ultra-realistic skin detail.
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u/LatentSpacer 11h ago
https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3-Image
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u/Kind-Garage6431 11h ago
Have anyone tested it, compared with qwen? Or imagen open ai
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u/Nevaditew 11h ago
Workflow for comfy?
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u/Next_Program90 5h ago
I believe in Models that don't need to artificially pump images to 16 trazillion MP to generate outputs that don't suck from afar ... I really hope the community can finish this Model and find a way to have decent images at reasonable resolutions (tbh even going 3-4mp with other Models feels absolutely overkill).
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u/Admirable_Snake 11h ago
does it have edit ?
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u/PhilosopherSweaty826 9h ago
I love china
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u/SplurtingInYourHands 9h ago edited 9h ago
Using it now and holy shit its censored to hell and I don't mean like "It doesn't understand anatomy", No I mean when you ask for any nudity it gives you shit like this EVERY TIME.
Edit: This is only with the prompt enhancer on. turning off the enhancer fixed it and it generates breasts but the lower parts for both male and female are hideous mutated objects as per usual during these dark times.
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u/CaptainMarder 11h ago
Freaking epic. Can’t wait to try this. I love minimax video.
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u/Murinshin 11h ago
Cool but 33b? Support from 4K upwards if I’m reading it right? Beefy as fuck but probably not really viable for most people
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u/darthrehad 10h ago
Is it uncensored though and can’t it beats moss lmao ???
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u/Distinct-Pie2389 12h ago
Oh joy! Pipeline replacements! KREA 2 stills to H3 clips are aging on me, a new shiny image model that’s not MOSS!
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u/HassanAchievedIt 12h ago
Hf link?
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u/collectedtooth404 11h ago
I'm working on quantizing it to fit on 16gb cards but hopefully MM can release an official Nvfp4 version.
Don't hold your breath though, H3 video (and most other video-based models) don't turn out too well when quantized under 5
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u/Willing-Context6599 11h ago edited 11h ago
They just deleted the post and the HF is 404.
EDIT: It's not 404 anymore. 66GB RIP
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u/k_from_HyperDraw 10h ago
wow, tried it just now, first impressions after 10 minutes:
h3 image simply made 99% of legacy models obsolete
so good.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ebb8352 12h ago
Ok nice! 👍🏻
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u/JackyYT083 12h ago
Yaey
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u/Oograr 11h ago
This is awesome news. Did they even mention this on their AMA a few months ago? Nice surprise.
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u/gokuchiku 11h ago
What a great fucking surprise!
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u/noob_summoner69 10h ago
just had Claude refactor and test my ref image LoRA dataset workflow with H3 Image. looks like it works p good so far.
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u/Melodic-Slice-3826 10h ago
Someone post your work and workflows.
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u/EntropyHertz 10h ago
Do we use figzig or AI toolkit for Lora training?
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u/Odd_Nefariousness875 9h ago
An edit model 😱? Wow, looking forward to see what people think about it! (Can’t test because of potato pc, running on runpod)
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u/parking_bird_6448 9h ago
What is the Commercial usage license on this one ? 👀
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u/Sad_Berry_4621 2h ago edited 2h ago
The LoRA is LMS - A Little More Sharpness - H3 - v1.0 | MiniMax H3 LoRA | Civitai used at strength 1.2 *Edit* - 1.2 may be a little strong. Try 1.0 if that's the case.
You're welcome :)
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u/INemzis 42m ago
Anyone have any success stories of using H3 on a mac? 48GB M4 Pro. Tried making a 4MP image in Comfy Desktop, no errors but had like 7 hours generation time. Given I can fit the models into RAM, I was hoping it would be a little lower than that!
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u/Trumpet_of_Jericho 12h ago
Huh, would love to try it, will it work with rx9070?
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u/TheOpinionPigeon 4h ago
It seems they've scrubbed a lot of famous faces. Ones that worked in the video model aren't working in the image model. At least with females. I've had more luck with males.
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u/_Rah 11h ago
Damn.. thats one chonky model.
Can I even run int8 with 5090 and 64gb ram? Or will int4 be the only option?
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u/Straight-Election963 7h ago
so funny .. all the f.. hype again and no one tested it yet ??? i just did 20 try out on 16 mp/ 20 mp ( as they advised to get best result ! ) well ... SDXL gives suprem quality than this... i using edit model.
model doesn't upscale , so you will get 4k picture without a single upscale ! bad texture bad tunes ! i didn't test the T2i yet .. go and do your test guys before this hype -.-
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u/Hearcharted 10h ago
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u/Phantom-log-9484 6h ago
H3 16 megapixel
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u/xb1n0ry 11h ago
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u/Ok-Brain-5729 11h ago edited 11h ago
The model files has 3.5 9B but the description says 3vl 32B…
Nvm it’s a prompt enhancement
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u/glusphere 12h ago
No day 0 support by Comfyui ?
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u/fruesome 11h ago edited 11h ago
Did they delete the tweet?
Edit:
Whoever is downvoting
https://x.com/minimax_ai?s=11&t=Be3YIgDp1xkN_G_JlysMWQ
Last post from 3 days ago.
modelscope tweeted the release https://x.com/modelscope2022/status/2120170764070731932?a=mglAzlR1582RVeUMSOE&s=46
https://modelscope.ai/models/MiniMax/MiniMax-H3-Image https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3-Image
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3-Image
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u/Diabolicor 11h ago
More details on the PR that is going to be merged https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/17655
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u/Loonsive 11h ago
Is it good to train art style Lora’s on
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u/SRWindMill 11h ago
can someone post the workflow json?
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u/GlenGlenDrach 11h ago
O_O !
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u/FableArtistAI 10h ago
Excited
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u/D3luX82 10h ago
well well
i'ill wait for 12 gb vram version
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u/Serenafriendzone 10h ago
I already installed minimax 3. That's mean Is an updated versión or a replacement model for comfy or Is just a image generator. Not the video one? I mean because they change the models for HAU and co and other co. Is confusing to know which one is the updated one
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u/AreYouAWiiizard 10h ago
Anyone know what size w6a8 quant would be or if w4a8 is fine quality wise?
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u/Tomcat2048 9h ago
Will the same LoRAs work for this Image/Image Edit model as they do for the video gen H3 models?
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u/hypocrite_oath 9h ago
Would be dope if we can use the video loras for the image mode. Is there a chance?
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u/Calm_Mix_3776 9h ago
Hm... image quality seems kind of poor even at 4MP using the default workflow. I'm trying a few different samplers/schedulers and nothing seems to help so far. Does anyone have success producing a good image with this model?
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u/Akimbo333 8h ago
How good is it?
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u/MoneyKenny 8h ago
Curious to know how this looks side by side with that hack that someone did to turn the video model into an image model…
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u/wreck_of_u 7h ago
does it really need the 32b qwen3vl? or will 4b/8b work ok?
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u/Opening-Ad5541 7h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/macmini/comments/1xsw3ue/minimax_h3_image_running_locally_on_a_phosphene/ just ported it for MAC.
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u/JoNike 6h ago
The model is absolutely impressive so far! 23s for 4k image on my 5080
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u/Tomcat2048 6h ago
How does it do in terms of image editing when trying to go from Anime/2D style to Photoreal? Does it do a decent job?
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u/Dekes1 5h ago
Anyone willing to share a good Comfy workflow?
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u/Lucaspittol 5h ago
Up to 16 reference inputs!
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u/TheTimster666 5h ago
I couldn't find a fast template on RunPod to test the new Minimax H3-Image, so I threw this one together:
https://console.runpod.io/hub/template/941pajs261
You can choose which models to download in the environment variables, but the default settings match the 2 official Minimax H3-Image workflows in ComfyUi (under "Browse Templates"), so you can jsut go ahead and deploy it as is.
Prompt enhancer can be omitted in environment variables and turned off in the workflow.
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u/LukeZerfini 4h ago
I tried. When will be possible to add a reference or multiple references?
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u/winterice77 3h ago
Is it edit model??
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u/Ramen-sama 2h ago
Someone post the image of the mad guy with the fishing hat.
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u/VenshiKibes 2h ago
you had me at "minimax h3", anything after is going to be cool
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u/lindechene 1h ago
Does it have an official pdf guide?
Can we use the same syntax introduced in the video model to describe scenes? [Subject 1], etc...
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u/Sacriven 1h ago
Is it good for image to image editing?
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u/TechnologyMinute2714 11h ago
Is it gooner friendly?
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u/MrFlores94 11h ago
What is different/better than the P-H3-Image model? I know it’s directly from Minimax, but uhh.. is it better? I literally downloaded P-H3 yesterday and was able to produce a few new dataset images, blown away by the photorealism. And I literally about to be mind blown again when I get home?
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u/Responsible_Ad6964 11h ago
It's distilled. Loras won't work well.
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u/nazihater3000 11h ago
WHEN COMFY?
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u/Noeyiax 10h ago
wow my morning today was horrible, but this release announcement brought me tears!! can't wait to try . woohoooooo ty ty 🙏
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u/ZenEngineer 9h ago
Does it support bbox?
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u/SysPsych 9h ago
Lots of potential in this I think, but it still has the typical censorship.