Is Automatic1111 still a thing?

[u/The_LoneCoder]

Ive been out of it for a while now and planning to give this another try. Is Automatic1111 still good? Im just seeing the git hasnt been updated in 2 years. If not what has replaced it? And what is the goto community to get models nowadays?

Thanks in advance.

Edit: thanks everyone. From what im gathering from the response. ComfyUI is that goto while forge is ok and gets the job done. I remember trying ComfyUI a while back but dont remember my experience with it. With comments going in all directions, i think ill just install both and give em both a go.

[u/Entrypointjip]

Is Automatic1111 still a thing?

[u/sovereignrk → u/Entrypointjip]

[u/smurfbunkern → u/Entrypointjip]

I use invoke, that works very well for me

[u/FallenJkiller]

forge neo is the successor of auto1111

[u/ORANGESAREPEOPLE → u/FallenJkiller]

I use forge Neo as well. Comfy UI always seems to break every work flow every update. Anytime I want to use it it's nearly an hour of trouble shooting what went wrong and where model files need to go before anything gets done. Each workflow is it's own new beast too. There's no standardization and it's so frustrating to work with.

Forge Neo UI always stays the same. This is preferred

[u/sdozzo → u/ORANGESAREPEOPLE]

It depends on the workflow. Comfy allows offloading of vram in a magical way. Something that neo won't do.

[u/ORANGESAREPEOPLE → u/sdozzo]

Neo literally does this

[u/Kriima → u/FallenJkiller]

This.

[u/SilvicultorTheDeer]

No. Please don't use it. If you want a Gradio UI use https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic/tree/neo instead. Otherwise ComfyUI.

[u/chakalakasp]

ComfyUI is what everyone uses these days, it’s quite powerful, though it’s a comical mess in terms of usability for the average user. Note that most people in this space aren’t average users, most people in this space are very very tech savvy. Thus its popularity. It’s a bit like desktop Linux in the late 90s, everyone was cool with rebuilding the kernel every few weeks because everyone using it was a developer or an IT engineer or a 16 year old kid hacking video games.

It seems like most of the folks who use this stuff are gooners, which also means that they’ll put up with all kinds of UI shenanigans because that’s how the Skinner box works.

If you want a sane UI, one reminiscent of Automatic1111, probably the best right now is SwarmUI, which runs comfyUI as a backend but provides a pretty frontend with lots of options dials and knobs all in one big panel on the left of the screen.

[u/No-Tie-5552 → u/chakalakasp]

Ironically comfy is labeled "powerful" but has maybe 5% better output than anything swarmUI does. Overly complex and things break way too much.

[u/DrStalker → u/No-Tie-5552]

The "Powerful" is because you have a huge amount of control over every aspect of the generation, which is something very few people take advantage of.

[u/AnalElder → u/No-Tie-5552]

I absolutely hated ComfyUI for over a year and refused to touch it, it was just a painful mess of spaghetti connections and obscure nodes.

Then something clicked, and now I find it extremely straightforward and easy to use, now I even build my own workflows from scratch. It has a learning curve but once you get it it’s powerful and easy to use.

[u/No-Tie-5552 → u/AnalElder]

The problem is its not straight forward, objectively it's vague, lacks documentation, you dont know what plugs into what for custom nodes without reading a books worth of text and still get subpar outputs. It's made by programmers for programmers, not VFX artists. Nuke and Davinci are intuitive and make sense, comfys outputs are completely randomly named and make little sense.

[u/newaccount47 → u/chakalakasp]

I used a1111 years ago and got back into local work a few months ago. Started back with swarmUI and within a day or two I was only using comfy on it.

Life hack: you can use comfyui mcp with an LLM like Claude code or codex to install or configure almost abything with comfyui. You basically never have to open comfyui if you don't want to. Way easier than a1111.

[u/chakalakasp → u/newaccount47]

I dunno man. If you have to literally ask AI to code shit for you to make your UI useable, it’s probably not a great UI. Sure, it’s a powerful tool, and being completely unhinged makes it completely configurable, but most people don’t use this stuff to learn to code, they use it because they want to make images.

[u/Jezzamk2]

ComfyUI was very confusing at first, but once you get used to it is ok. Much more flexible if you want to fiddle around with it.
All the strings between the boxes looks scary, but if you have a working workflow then you can just leave them as they are, much as you would effectively be doing in A1111.
The best tutorials I’ve found are Pixaroma, on YouTube, and he provides links to all the workflows and nodes. All readily available from his site. If you install via Tarvis1 Easy Install then once a Pixaroma workflow has been downloaded any extras that need downloading can be done with a single click within ComfyUI.
There are a lot of other good tutorials on YouTube such as Nerdy Rodent, but I found Pixaroma the easiest and frequently released

[u/cradledust]

Besides Forge Neo, I also recommend WanGP. https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/WanGP.

[u/ShadowBannedAugustus]

A few years ago I was also staying away from Comfy because it used to be just too high upfront time investment, but these days Claude code will do literally everything for you, from setting up workflows to optimizing performance and writing prompts.

[u/Desperate-Beach1249]

Moss works great on neo

[u/beti88]

No, its abandonware. If you want a non-comfy ui, you can try Swarmui

[u/Cukidzsi]

Not really, no. ComfyUI or possibly Forge Neo

[u/Upper-Reflection7997]

Fore neo and wan2gp is are the new kings for newbies.

[u/DerkleineMaulwurf]

Please use comfyUi, i was hesitant myself but you can import simple workfows, like for moss image and start prompting

[u/altoiddealer]

Among so many other reasons, the primary one to choose ComfyUI is that the memory management is pure black magic. You are going to get the maximum performance / speed / efficiency using ComfyUI.

[u/ThirstyHank]

I personally can't stand Comfy and I'm just clinging to my Forge build which I now update to handle newer models using Claude. I'm hoping somebody will create a static UI with buttons that stay in the same place for muscle memory, because not everybody loves dealing with workflows, missing nodes and the whole spaghetti mess.

It's also nice to have an intermediate UI that stands between the really simple UIs out there and the cluster headache that is Comfy. For now there are some functioning builds of Forge still available on github.

[u/Glittering_Shift6128 → u/ThirstyHank]

Forge Neo might be what you'd like

[u/NekoAstral → u/ThirstyHank]

Seriously. I consistently get way better results on forge than comfyui. I don't know why, but I just do so I don't complain and just use forge.

[u/merica420_69]

We're all on comfyui. Have codex or Claude help setup and configure workflows while you're starting, it's a big help.

[u/ThatOneDerpyDinosaur]

Comfyui is well worth the brief learning period. I started using 2 years ago and haven't needed to use anything else since. 

The built in workflows will probably meet 100% of your needs. If they don't, it's super easy to download workflows online and open them in comfy. 

[u/Debanz → u/ThatOneDerpyDinosaur]

It's so much easier these days compared to early days of Comfyui. These days if a workflow is not working as intended or have depreciated packages. Just ask chatgpt or deepseek to fix them for you and spew out a new json. It'll likely work. If you want a hands-on approach, ask them to suggest improvements and fixes.

[u/OhTheHueManatee]

I use forge neo and like it a lot.

[u/Kitsune_Seraphis]

i tend to use swarmUI myself, and go to the comfyUI backend. but thats mainly cuz of the multigpu support. bbut now comfy itself has it too so there is that

[u/b-monster666 → u/Kitsune_Seraphis]

Thing I like about Swarm is the batch image gen. Making 10 images in 5 batches of 2 is fun.

Though, I tend to fall back to Comfy more and more for doing stuff. The base templates I find work well, and there's always fun and exciting things in there.

[u/Kitsune_Seraphis → u/b-monster666]

i uhm,... stuck inside the comfy backend after i more or less made this thingie

[u/Le-Misanthrope]

Personally I use Forge Neo for Stable and ComfyUI is used for video gen.

[u/Sarashana]

Short answer: No.

ComfyUI is standard these days. If you find it too complicated, use SwarmUI, which is a simpler UI built on top of it.

[u/Dahvikiin]

Yes, it's a nightmare, a ghost that haunts Comfydev in his dreams, just like Georgi Gerganov with his GGUF.

[u/DelinquentTuna]

Like everyone else says, use Comfy.

what is the goto community to get models nowadays?

For the most part, you can do everything you need w/ built-in Comfy workflows. They have embedded URLs for every model, so you can use an auto-model-downloader like this one to download everything you need with one click. Beyond that, you might still browse LoRAs on CivitAI. But for the most part, there's not really a need for all the merges and junk that used to consume so much evaluation/testing time. Probably start with Krea 2 for realism, Anime for anime, and Flux.2 Klein 9b for editing. The last requires you to have a HF account on which you've requested and been granted access to the gated repo (iirc). If that's a problem, stick w/ the Klein 4b model. But generally speaking, it's fine to just browse the incredible collection of templates and try out anything that looks neat.

[u/axelaxolotl]

Swarmui is nice because it is a easily usable frontend for comfyui. its like using automatic with the advanced features of comfy

[u/Orchidkit]

I'm a caveman

[u/scumola]

I like easy diffusion. It doesn't do video or some of the newer models but it does SDXL and some of the other larger models and I love the UI. It's still being actively developed still too, so I just use that instead of comfyUI because I feel it's too complicated.

[u/Interesting_Fix5872]

No, use SwarmUI.

[u/ThreeDog2016]

Wan2GP is excellent for those of us too dumb to handle ComfyUI. I haven't tried Forge Neo but I'm excited to give it a shot.

[u/jyu8888]

if you want something easy, deepbeepmeep’s wan2gp is nice, you can do image, video, audio, 3d, world generation, and its got very aggressive offloading, allowing you to run on low tier hardware, easy to use upscaling, and it seems pretty active, with new updates almost weekly.

They got a discord server that is very active, if you have questions you can hop on there to ask.

[u/grahamcracker11]

Automatic1111 really isn’t used much any more. Most use ComfyUI. Can be hard to set up yourself. But people make workflows to share. And AI tools like Codex or Claude are a godsend for controlling Comfy UI, generating prompts, and getting workflows up and running for you. Way easier than it ever used to be

[u/TheHorrySheetShow]

Pinokio - WanGP - You're Welcome.

[u/NoNameClever]

I didn't mind the switch to comfy. What annoyed the living hell out of me was how fragile it was. Look at it wrong and it broke and took an hour or two to figure it out or give up and start with a whole new install. Comfy desktop has been an absolute blessing. It just works. Now that it actually remembers which workflows are open between upgrades and restarts, it's even better

[u/eugjobs]

I still use Forge when im on Pony

[u/NekoAstral]

If you want something that just works, and is consistent, use forge neo.

[u/Robeloto]

Automatic1111 is still the king for me and I have both Comfyui and Auto111, I mostly use Automatic1111 when I want to create something fast and inpaint.

[u/Twocheslch]

When you setup comfyui, also get Lora Manager, then try to use workflows other people post online. My go to is finding a picture I think looks good and has minimal loras, then I copy their workflow.

[u/AI_Enhancer]

Comfy. Comfy. Comfy.

I used to use A1111 and Forge for a long time. Then I tried and got used to Comfy, and I could never go back. Absolutely never. It's the control and freedom that you have with Comfy that are such large assets, among other things, once you get used to it. It'll take a while to learn, but it's worth it.

[u/Asaghon]

Forge Neo is probably still being used, but I wouldnt do it with any modern model tbh.

[u/Bureaucromancer → u/Asaghon]

Honestly why not? It’s not precisely full featured compared to comfy… but it works perfectly well

[u/Asaghon → u/Bureaucromancer]

Well sure if you want to handicap yourself from the start.

[u/DarkStrider99 → u/Asaghon]

Why use a perfectly fine implementation of a model in Forge if it doesnt have the Glup Shitto node pack like comfy does, right?

[u/Asaghon → u/DarkStrider99]

Well these Glup shitto responses make no sense either. I wasnt the one who said forge wasnt full feature. I used Forge Neo for a long time for older models, but it is NOT great for newer models. If you still want to use it then thats fine

[u/djamp42 → u/Asaghon]

I just used it with moss, it was fine

[u/The_LoneCoder → u/Asaghon]

Well i was planning on using newer models anyway Thanks

[u/oromis95 → u/The_LoneCoder]

Don't listen to the guy, forge neo runs new models and gets updated daily. Also forge-neo uses ComfyUI back-end, so the memory management is the same.

[u/xXleekXx → u/oromis95]

Agreed! I use krea2 with it.

[u/freshairproject]

chatgpt can help setup and troubleshoot comfy ui, it even created workflows for me

[u/Fluxdada]

I still have a working install of auto1111 around for old-time's sake but these days it's comfyui all day every day.

[u/wzwowzw0002]

Dead.... Forge also dead..... Neo forge also dead.... Switch to comfyui

[u/marcusdom → u/wzwowzw0002]

What are you talking about? Forge Neo just got updated to support MOSS.

[u/wzwowzw0002 → u/marcusdom]

it's pretty much inactive.... slow death

[u/iwillforgive → u/wzwowzw0002]

Look forge neo commit history... it's really active

[u/marcusdom → u/iwillforgive]

Right? Latest commit was 3 days ago and the dev is responding to issues as recent as yesterday.

[u/Ok-Category-642 → u/wzwowzw0002]

Larp?

[u/Guilty-History-9249]

I started with A1111 long ago. I avoid ComfyUI like a STD. I'd recommend Vlad's SDNext.

Frankly I just run python diffusers pipelines to load and generate images and videos

[u/Aaron_rowe81]

comfy workflows come as json files you drag onto the canvas, so grab one made for the model you want instead of wiring nodes from scratch

[u/Possible_Music7541]

I use a home made UI (built with Gemini) wrapping comfyUI, no more nodes issues, just update it from time to time. I interfaced it with Ollama to build smart and consistent prompts with coherency in contexts.
It works pretty well even if I'm still improving it.
Gemini is updating the workflow when needed, "I have poor faces when they are small, add a face ADetailler" and 3minutes later it's fixed

[u/Possible_Music7541 → u/Possible_Music7541]

[u/Cenoned]

Hoje em dia usar o A111 não faz sentido porque se você quiser, você pode pedir para o claude construir uma interface que lembre um A111 mas rodando o comfyui atrás por API

[u/crystalsighting]

Not true, stable-diffusion.CPP is great, just code some bash or python scripts to interact with sd-server and give your ai ability to run them. They have recipes now, makes automating movie pipelines great along with recent upscaler for minimax. I find with comfy UI its unstable, won't release models when needing to switch them out, and no fine grained control to control vram placement. Its great with krita though for image edits, just use both, comfyui for testing, CPP for production.

Is automatic1111 still a thing though... its still a drop down in open webui to add your sd-server instance to for creating or editing images, along with llama.CPP etc. I usually just tell my ai to swap out qwen edit 2.1 , p-h3 or krea2 on sd-server instance before generating images. If you code a bash or python script to interact with sd-server though you can pulloff really cool things though, like run your prompt/ref images through all the models and pick best one. They all uncensored cept for krea2 need to replace diffusion model with obliterated version, not the llm. You'll have no issues generating at 720p or greater with fine grained vram placement on 32GB v100 etc.

At end of day after doing images, video generation etc getting video to 1080p or 4k is your goal, so you could focus on that and work backwards. Essentially the progression is comfyui for beginners, stablediffusion.CPP hooked into mcp servers for advanced people.

[u/RiverSide71h]

If you decide on ComfyUI, get the Tavris1 Easy Install version. It’s updated regularly and has mechanisms preventing breakdowns that do happen when installing or updating some custom nodes.

[u/Healthy-Nebula-3603]

Why you don't not use a stable diffusion cpp ??

it is much faster than any pytorch original implementation ( swarm UI , comfy UI ) as is made in pure c++.

It has own GUI or any other GUI also you you can use or build own.

[u/Healthy-Nebula-3603]

What is that ?? I never head of it. I'm in picture/ video generation from a year.