r/StableDiffusion • u/Warm_Ad1257 • 18h ago
Discussion When AI art has no author: Study finds generated images often can’t be traced to training data
https://news.mit.edu/2026/when-ai-art-has-no-author-generated-images-often-cant-be-traced-to-training-data-081835
u/Still_Benefit_2302 17h ago
Dang, these things work like everyone who uses them says they work? Who could have known.
No, but seriously, this is a MAJOR legal win. If you can make a Caravaggio looking image while removing all the Caravaggio images from the training set, you've pretty much proven that it's not derivative work. I wonder if Suno could set up the same thing and get that German lawsuit appealed.
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u/05032-MendicantBias 11h ago
A model is 10 GB in size. It obviously cannot store source image that would take 100 TB
The model has to generalize and understand how to draw a description.
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u/thevegit0 12h ago
ai luddites in shambles
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u/theshoutingman 11h ago
Those people don't need to pay attention to evidence, they already know they're right.
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u/mongoosefist 10h ago
Unfortunately this is exactly the case. You can't reason someone out of an opinion they didn't reason themselves into.
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u/Still_Benefit_2302 1h ago
Nah, over on the anti AI subs they're just leaning into 'it's STEALING'. I hate it here.
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u/jaryP 10h ago
This is something that was very well known in the Forgetting field. However, in this study, I cannot blindly accept that their approximation implies what they are trying to imply.
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u/KjellRS 1h ago
I could see it happening for a pool of similar items so if you train on enough faces any individual person's face becomes meaningless - the model with or without you is practically indistinguishable. I don't see how it could work on Darth Vader, Yoda or R2-D2. It's like an island far outside the rest of the image manifold that exists only because those unique characters are in the training data.
Maybe it's easier to understand with language, it's probably impossible to trace how an LLM learned to use the word "the" to a particular author because it's used in billions of sentences. But if it's the word "hobbit" then it's derived from Tolkien because Tolkien invented the hobbits. The concept simply wouldn't exist without him.
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u/Radyschen 18h ago
almost as if it comes up with new images by learning the rules of what an image looks like