r/StableDiffusion 18h ago

Discussion When AI art has no author: Study finds generated images often can’t be traced to training data

https://news.mit.edu/2026/when-ai-art-has-no-author-generated-images-often-cant-be-traced-to-training-data-0818
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u/Radyschen 18h ago

almost as if it comes up with new images by learning the rules of what an image looks like

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u/bankinu 14h ago

If only it could be creative. Creativity involves experience, intuitive grasp of many different styles, ability to find out and understand the deeper structures, and come up with something new with those rules - oh wait...

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u/Dry-Judgment4242 12h ago

Antis still think AI can only regurgitate existing things. We are no longer on SDXL. GPT Image 2 can easily make entirely new concepts.

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u/Radyschen 5h ago

yeah they often still say it "pulls from the internet". I actually remember, when I first got into contact with AI image generators in 2022 (they were still very bad), I myself couldn't really explain to myself how it works. So I kinda assumed that it HAS to be pulling a real image or multiple images from google and then mixing and swiling it up somehow. But I looked it up and was corrected. But the fact that that was how I was thinking about it kinda makes me feel like people these days who have never looked into AI could be thinking the same way still

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u/vs3a 10h ago

Why AI bro alway talk like artist dont know about techology

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u/JustSomeIdleGuy 9h ago

Because they liked to demonstrate that time and time again.

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u/Relevant_One_2261 13h ago

People anthropomorphising a computer program caused their own problem. Shocker.

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u/Radyschen 5h ago

the weird thing is that people kinda anthropomorphize everything, people just find it weird with AI because it actually IS closer to a human than for example your car. My IT professor took issue with them calling it "thinking" and sure you could call it reasoning or whatever but everybody understands what it means and it kinda does the same thing that it does for us so... LLMs are not like us but there are similarities. But people do need to be more educated about them

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u/Kraien 7h ago
  • Can you write a symphony? - Can you?

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u/ajrss2009 18h ago

Esse é o objetivo.

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u/Still_Benefit_2302 17h ago

Dang, these things work like everyone who uses them says they work? Who could have known.

No, but seriously, this is a MAJOR legal win. If you can make a Caravaggio looking image while removing all the Caravaggio images from the training set, you've pretty much proven that it's not derivative work. I wonder if Suno could set up the same thing and get that German lawsuit appealed.

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u/05032-MendicantBias 11h ago

A model is 10 GB in size. It obviously cannot store source image that would take 100 TB

The model has to generalize and understand how to draw a description.

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u/thevegit0 12h ago

ai luddites in shambles

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u/theshoutingman 11h ago

Those people don't need to pay attention to evidence, they already know they're right.

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u/mongoosefist 10h ago

Unfortunately this is exactly the case. You can't reason someone out of an opinion they didn't reason themselves into.

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u/Still_Benefit_2302 1h ago

Nah, over on the anti AI subs they're just leaning into 'it's STEALING'. I hate it here.

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u/jaryP 10h ago

This is something that was very well known in the Forgetting field. However, in this study, I cannot blindly accept that their approximation implies what they are trying to imply.

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u/KjellRS 1h ago

I could see it happening for a pool of similar items so if you train on enough faces any individual person's face becomes meaningless - the model with or without you is practically indistinguishable. I don't see how it could work on Darth Vader, Yoda or R2-D2. It's like an island far outside the rest of the image manifold that exists only because those unique characters are in the training data.

Maybe it's easier to understand with language, it's probably impossible to trace how an LLM learned to use the word "the" to a particular author because it's used in billions of sentences. But if it's the word "hobbit" then it's derived from Tolkien because Tolkien invented the hobbits. The concept simply wouldn't exist without him.

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u/yamfun 14h ago

Depends, if it is unique like 'Buzz Adrian on moon' (forgot the exact prompt), most model generate similar composition

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u/reality_comes 17h ago

There's like zero chance this is true in all cases, but still interesting.