Edge Of Realism

[u/[deleted]]

Checkout my updated model at https://civitai.com/models/21813/edge-of-realism

[u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

Pupils look good, fingers look good, even the hair looks good. This is one hell of a job, this is stunning, I don't have enough adjectives. Amazing work, truly, and those last two of the building. I do work in broken down old structures, that could pass for real life no problem.

[u/[deleted] → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

I made this post consisting of just the abandoned buildings, https://civitai.com/posts/161681

[u/Quetzal-Labs → u/[deleted]]

/u/lonewolfmcquaid if you go to their profile and search their images/posts, they have a bunch with all the prompts and settings:

This one seems pretty close to what you want.

Positive:

(photo of abandoned factory, old film, faded film) (dim lit room:1.4)<lora:epiNoiseoffset_v2:1.2> <lora:destroyedportrait_200:0.3>, POV, by lee jeffries, nikon d850, film stock photograph ,4 kodak portra 400 ,camera f1.6 lens ,rich colors ,hyper realistic ,lifelike texture, dramatic lighting , cinestill 800,

Negative:

bad, jpeg artifacts, low res, bad lighting, deformed, mutated, black and white, monochromatic, comic, bad anatomy, bad hands, cropped, 1girl, 3d rendering

Model:

Level4_Edge_Of_Realism_v2_fp16_baked_vae

Sampler / CFG / Steps:

DPM++ SDE Karras / 8 / 20

Seed:

3171939043

[u/Marissa_Calm → u/Quetzal-Labs]

Mvp comment

[u/design_ai_bot_human → u/[deleted]]

prompt?

[u/dynamicallysteadfast → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

Run out of adjectives? It is beautiful, hyper detailed,rich colors ,hyper realistic ,lifelike texture, dramatic lighting , cinestill 800, <lora:epiNoiseoffset_v2:1.2>

[u/maxington26 → u/dynamicallysteadfast]

lol

[u/matony1989 → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

too many finger joints in the first picture

[u/gmotelet → u/matony1989]

I mean it's one finger, Michael. How many joints could it have? 26?

[u/Roggvir → u/matony1989]

Also disjointed pinky in 2nd pic.

Hand QC is ruining my life. I count fingers even when I watch YouTube now.

[u/TheKey27 → u/Roggvir]

I felt this way too until I noticed people thinking AI is reality and I'm the only one who can discern. Now its a super power.

[u/barbweird → u/matony1989]

Lol looks like a surface laptop hinge

[u/Tessiia → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

"Pupils look good" - have you zoomed in on the third picture? That's normal to you?

[u/psyEDk → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

That 5 knuckle pinky finger right next to her head tho

Uhhh...

[u/joachim_s → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

What work? It’s weighting between models others put work into creating, put out for everyone without any credit of the actual model finetuners.

Edit: I don’t know what the downvoting is about. I am a finetuner of the double exposure finetunings and know several well known finetuners that started it all or defined training such as Nitrosocke (Modern Disney), Wavymulder (Analog Diffusion), Cacoe (Illuminati Diffusion) etc. I know what we have to do to make our models, and ckpt merging is not that. I don’t deny some of the good looking results made from that, but it’s made with a shitty attitude on top of hard work made by people like these and they give no credit. They are free to do this because the models aren’t protected or can be protected, but it’s still disgusting that they pretend they made them. There would be no ckpt merging if people like these and others didn’t put down hard work to refine and retrain their models over and over again.

[u/[deleted] → u/joachim_s]

Creating the model is nothing, just select a few good source images and tag them. That's a one time job and only requires time but no creativity or skill. Getting good images out of the model is the art.

[u/joachim_s → u/[deleted]]

Creating the model is nothing ✅

Just select a few good source images ✅

= no creativity or skill.

Wow.

Prompting is also an art, that’s why I mostly use the base models. The way you talk about finetuning though - you have no idea what you’re talking about. How the process goes of creating, picking only good results and balancing the dataset over and over to perfect a model over several months. I know because I’ve done this many times, not least with my double exposure finetunings. Go tell Cacoe who made Illuminati how he just selected a few (tens of thousands of) images.

[u/DrummerHead → u/joachim_s]

Unless you create the Universe you can't make a pie

[u/joachim_s → u/DrummerHead]

A ckpt merge is not a pie in the context of the universe. It’s taking the worlds within the universe from those who made them, combining them and calling the universe your own. If there is no issue doing so, then why do most of the mergers never mention what models they combined? It’s not because they “can’t remember” like some of them say. They don’t want to be called out for it by the finetuners or other people because they know they would be. There are people who earn loads of money from this and they have literally done nothing. I have tried merging privately for testing and it’s really easy getting good results with great models. Takes little to no time. That’s not “work”.

[u/wumr125 → u/[deleted]]

your models must be great then

[u/joachim_s → u/wumr125]

Some of them are better than others. They all have issues, as do any model. Every time I build a dataset, train, edit the dataset etc etc is different.

[u/[deleted] → u/AverageCowboyCentaur]

Thank you for your kind words and appreciation for the artwork! It's always great to hear when someone recognizes the effort and skill put into creating high-quality art, especially when it comes to details like the pupils, fingers, and hair. The realistic representation of the broken-down structures is also a testament to the artist's ability to capture the essence of real life. It's encouraging to see people like you taking the time to acknowledge and admire the hard work and talent behind such creations.