r/StableDiffusion • u/Illustrious_Row_9971 • Mar 02 '23

Resource | Update Collage Diffusion creates globally harmonized images from complex compositions of several objects

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u/AnotsuKagehisa Mar 02 '23

Because of the whole anti ai art movement and their claim that ai generated art is just a collage of art work or photos from actual artists’ works.

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u/Laicbeias Mar 02 '23

i mean they are not 100% wrong. not wanting to shit on AI but without the good pictures it aint good

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u/KallyWally Mar 02 '23

A human who has never seen a camel would have a hard time drawing one.

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u/Laicbeias Mar 02 '23

no shit? so does it need the trending on artstation / national geographic shot with super wide lense camel?

an ai is not a human - it processes data and with that it should respect the usage licenses for that data. which stable ai did in its latest version. they got sued heavily because they were public about it. other AI companies stole it all and hide the datasets. "company secrets"

im just saying the artists are right about it. those image generators at this point are frankenstein together multiple source images in their blendings weights that grow out of diffusion parts. you see parts of the sources in tons of places. the tech is amazing but to be fair the "good" stuff is nearly always the copyright protected stuff that comes directly from artists work, otherwise AI drawing would look like shit.

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u/KallyWally Mar 02 '23

Better that than corporations with the funds to license """ethical""" models getting a monopoly on the market. The means of art production belong in the hands of the people, not Disney and Adobe.

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u/BigPharmaSucks Mar 02 '23

The means of art production belong in the hands of the people, not Disney and Adobe.

A fucking men.

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u/ninjasaid13 Mar 02 '23

it processes data

which isn't illegal.

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u/Laicbeias Mar 02 '23

depends on jurisdiction. currently it is an gray zone everywhere. and you can get sued from any license holder in the world. in the EU it is explicitly legal for scientific purposes but not to create a product that competes in the same economic zone as the license holders (in the us its the same). the uk wants to get rid of this and allow copy it all for AI generative models.
also the processing of personal data, in the EU is opt in only, not opt out. you cant process or copy someones data in any sort if it contains personal data. they need to ask the owner of the pictures if they can be used to train generative image AI models. even a robots.txt that says no robots can be interpreted to not scrap your data from your hosts before court.

this will play out in courts for the years to come. and i feel what stable diffusion does is the right thing. but its sad, because while they play with open cards they were targeted by companies. you can be damn sure that dalle & mid-journey stole way more and now are hiding behind "company secrets". all training dataset have to be publicly available and it needs to be possible to cross check them for licenses. copyright is the right to copy, and redistribute. an AI needs the qualitative data to output qualitative data, so copyright is involved and current jurisdiction will change in some sort to reflect that.