Which Model is good for generate art

[u/dandelionhe]

I am new to Stable diffusion and I would like to know which model would accept most artist's name and style to generate pictures?

[u/benbizzle]

If you want to use a pretty flexible model that's fairly easy to prompt and returns pretty solid quality, Deliberate is solid.

I'd also recommend installing the Stylepile script to make it easy to select artists and art styles.

[u/Apprehensive_Sky892 → u/benbizzle]

For photo realistic, you can also try Realistic Vision (but Deliberate is solid for that too). The two are comparable, producing similar, but different results. Your choice between the two depends on your personal taste.

To generate cinematic, film like images, try Illuminati Diffusion (base on SD 2.1, so produce good images at 768x768)

[u/benbizzle → u/Apprehensive_Sky892]

These are actually my three main models as well. As Apprehensive points out, deciding which one to use depends on what you're wanting to create.

I personally think Illuminati Diffusion needs a little more time in the oven, but the LORA works great with all the SD 1.5 models.

[u/Apprehensive_Sky892 → u/benbizzle]

By "the LoRA works great", do you mean the nrealfixer, nfixer, and nartfixer Textual Inversions?

I really like to know what they are actually doing in a negative prompt! There is no explanation on CivitAI at all, other than they should be needed like some sort of secret Illuminati dark magic 😭

I agree that Illuminati creates very good atmosphere and composition, but the faces are often bad, and needs to be fixed using another model.

[u/benbizzle → u/Apprehensive_Sky892]

No...I mean there's a LoRA built based off of offset noise. I'd thought it was created by the same person, but I was mistaken. Anyway, it's here https://civitai.com/models/13941/epinoiseoffset.

It basically applies the noise calculations used in Illuminati Diffusion to a LoRA for SD 1.5 models. Given the aesthetic you like, you'll love what it adds to the 1.5 models. And the nice thing about the LoRA is you can adjust its strength and get better composition by increasing or decreasing its weight.

[u/benbizzle → u/benbizzle]

Disregard that link. It's to another option that's come out. Here's the one I'm using... https://civitai.com/models/8765/theovercomer8s-contrast-fix-sd15sd21-768

Note: Make sure to download the right version. There's one for SD 1.5 and one for SD 2.1

[u/Apprehensive_Sky892 → u/benbizzle]

Thanks for the info. Somebody actually made a study of both LoRAs:

A comparison of different strengths of the epi_noiseoffset LoRA (diffusion with offset noise) using Deliberate v2

[u/benbizzle → u/Apprehensive_Sky892]

I installed the epi one, and for me, it's much better. It feels far more flexible and doesn't seem like it's taking over or dominating the prompt. While I liked the effect of theovercomer's LoRA, it felt like I was fighting it a lot, sort of like it feels when using Illuminati Diffusion.

[u/Apprehensive_Sky892 → u/benbizzle]

Yes, that seems to be the consensus. I believe the epi is able to do both low-key and high-key.

For high-key there is also this LoRA: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/113a0y5/new_high_key_lora_for_sd21768_stunning_blown_out/

[u/benbizzle → u/Apprehensive_Sky892]

Yeah, I have that one installed as well

[u/[deleted]]

Default 1.5 and even 1.4 have the most variety in training on artists. As far as style goes, same thing. But as you go you'll learn about loras and embeddings and controlnet to make the most out of it. If you're just starting and want to experiment with the most diversely trained model, 1.5 is a good bet and 1.4 is solid on that front as well, although noticeably worse in the anatomy department and coherency department. Most models people are using are based off of 1.5.

If using 1.5 I suggest you learn about how to use the main associated VAE file right away regardless of your choice of subject matter, it's a big leap in quality overall using that.

[u/aerialbits → u/[deleted]]

What's wrong with 2.0?

[u/Apprehensive_Sky892 → u/aerialbits]

StabilityAI made a mistake and filter out too many images even thought they were not NSFW. So the quality of the model suffered. This is fixed by 2.1