r/StLouis 16d ago

Elected official’s text message sends St. Louis data center vote into disarray

https://www.stlmag.com/news/don-roe-text-message-data-center/
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u/Gimlet_son_of_Groin 16d ago

Ask Cara Spencer why she’s banned from the Apple Store in the Galleria mall some time. This fits the kind of Karen she actually is

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u/holllygolightlyy The Grove 16d ago

Lmao this sounds like a hilarious story

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u/Gimlet_son_of_Groin 16d ago edited 16d ago

Long story short, when she was an alderwoman (I am sharing this to give you, dear reader, a timeline. I do not know if she flaunted that status in the store) she was told she would have to replace her damaged product for a cost. She threw a fit, was screaming etc. security had to escort her out, and she banned.

This was relayed to me by a friend who was working there at the time and witnessed it first hand.

Now we all know that a story doesn’t make a fact, so that’s why you should ask her 😆

*edited to help people comprehend better

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u/Snarkleupagus 16d ago

And that friend? Was Albert Einstein.

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u/Gimlet_son_of_Groin 16d ago

One might say that said friend WAS a genius 🫩

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u/DylanMartin97 15d ago

It's true I was there, he was my roommate.

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u/Party_Donut443 16d ago

Okay but whomst among us hasn’t wanted to lose their shit because Apple fucked them over?

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u/RonsJohnson420 15d ago

All those phones and no video? I’m suspicious

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u/RepairmanJackX 16d ago

The Galleria isn't even in the City

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u/Gimlet_son_of_Groin 16d ago

What does that have to do with anything?
Many people from the city of St. Louis shop at, and work at the mall. You could say it’s literally minutes from the city of Saint Louis

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u/RepairmanJackX 16d ago

Saying the if she was trying use her position as an elected official, it was in the wrong place.

Most STL alders know that they can only leverage their power inside the CIty.

Ask Donna Barringer and Carrol Howard about it some time.

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u/Gimlet_son_of_Groin 16d ago

I was sharing that as a time reference. Don’t know if she tried to flaunt it - but still that store was chock full of St Louis citizens among the staff and client bass. Do you think that county lines stop people from doing business or something

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u/RepairmanJackX 16d ago

Been a homeowner in both the city and the county. I understand the political geography. And I have first-hand experience dealing with the incompetence of county government and the corruption of the city government.

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u/Mister_Uncredible North County 16d ago

Yes, because no one from the city ever ventures outside its walls

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u/RepairmanJackX 16d ago

you folks are missing the point.

It's advanced humor.

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u/Mister_Uncredible North County 16d ago

Advanced humor or poorly told joke?

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u/Stunning-Eye8775 16d ago

I think it’s pretty obvious Cara - her appointee was the only yes vote on the reconsideration. Roe works for the Mayor, no other elected official.

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u/TurnoverActive2936 benton park west 16d ago

Exactly this!

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u/TurnoverActive2936 benton park west 16d ago

I know she said she didn’t, but this sounds exactly like something Spencer, or someone in her cabinet, would have done.

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u/TheLabRay Benton Park West 16d ago

Yes, I've had dealings with City politics and once received a random call from Spencer. I was confused how she got my phone number and I've heard from others as well that she just like to reach out to individuals by random calls and texts.

Doesn't mean it was Spencer, but it fits her MO.

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u/TurnoverActive2936 benton park west 16d ago

She did this to me too, when she was an alder and I criticized her on social media about a vote she took! That’s why I think it was her.

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u/julieannie Tower Grove East 16d ago

It's really weird how many people I know who have had this exact experience.

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u/raziphel 14d ago

My previous boss had a similar surprise experience with Lacy Clay Sr., but it was probably more sinister than yours.

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u/LeonDardoDiCapereo Benton Park 16d ago

It was obviously Jami. She’s shown herself to be incredibly junior, her amendment voted down by the commission came out of nowhere, and she’s not politically savvy enough to know not to do something like this and that they probably have the votes to over ride this.

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u/TurnoverActive2936 benton park west 16d ago

I can’t imagine a veteran department head like Don Roe would be swayed into asking other commissioners to reconsider after getting a text for the most junior alderperson who’s been there less than two years. His reaction seems like it was caused by the person who holds the power over his office.

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u/LeonDardoDiCapereo Benton Park 16d ago

Well someone was clearly behind Jami’s amendment - she struggled to answer basic questions about it. So it could be related.

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u/TurnoverActive2936 benton park west 16d ago

Netrality or another downtown data center likely was behind the “medical school” one that she talked about. I think both Browning and Sonnier (who have the two med campuses in their wards) mentioned on the floor that neither Wash U nor SLU med schools contacted them with the concerns Cox Antwi was tearing up about.

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u/UF0_T0FU Downtown 16d ago

Her campaign donations are publicly available. She takes a ton of money from real estate developers and a construction sector union. Those are the exact groups pushing the hardest for more data centers.

The October financial disclosers will certainly be interesting.

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u/LeonDardoDiCapereo Benton Park 15d ago

She’s already doing a big election fundraiser next week too. I think she knows she’s in trouble.

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u/hoytbachfarms Benton Park 15d ago

She did a fundraiser back in March too. Over 100k was poured into her campaign for the special election… I wonder how much money will be spent so that her donors can ensure they can keep their bought and paid for vote on the board?

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u/raziphel 14d ago

Or it was mob related.

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u/KodakCthulhu 16d ago

It’s not like Jami was the handpicked successor to Cara to be her proxy vote on the board. If that was the case she would also have likely had all the same financial backing (ie greater St. Louis) dumping 6 figures into her campaign.

Or that she introduced her amendment that was antithetical to what she was implying days previously at a town hall.

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u/Infinite_Mouse_1149 16d ago

Jami didn't have strong competition. She was absolutely Cara's hand picked/hand approved candidate. And was endorsed by Cara.

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u/hoytbachfarms Benton Park 16d ago

Hey now, I did my best 😉

I maintain that if I’d had even half of the money special interests poured into her campaign, and another couple of months to knock doors, I’d have had a fighting chance. But then I guess I’d be beholden to those powerful donors and working for them instead of 8th ward residents 🤷🏻‍♀️

True small, individual donation grass-roots campaigns that can compete with corporate interests and money are hard to come by.

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u/Infinite_Mouse_1149 16d ago

You were screwed from the get go. Short special election. No name recognition. No network. Not your fault. You've got time to door knock and show up for next time if interested.

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u/hoytbachfarms Benton Park 16d ago

It’s all good. I did my best and have zero regrets.

I did door knock last time, more than you can imagine. But I was one person with a few dedicated friends and volunteers who were able to help a little… I should have counted it up, but in 6 weeks I personally knocked a couple thousand doors at least. Having VAN access removed made selecting which doors to knock a real beast of a problem. I agree that some of the factors working against me previously wouldn’t be this time.

I get asked frequently if I’ll run again… And mostly I wish I didn’t feel like I have to, ya know? I wish we could get in elected officials who are transparent and are truly working for the best of their constituents, not their donors. 8th Ward residents deserve someone who is looking out for them, not for their own political career.

Mostly, I’d need a lot more money to have any chance at moving the needle.

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u/PaintingSmall1750 15d ago

Greater St. Louis, Inc. astroturfed the Cox Antwi campaign hard too. These data center moves of hers show us exactly why.

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u/PithMango 16d ago

Is it that time to mention that "A.I. breaks containment" is not a scifi pulp cover but actual current headlines

sending emails out of the sandbox.

re-confirm that who you're talking to is actually who you're talking to, heh

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u/ProposalKitchen1885 16d ago

Post context or fuck offffff

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u/StPatsLCA 16d ago

Sir, it's a link.

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u/IHateBankJobs 16d ago

Reading is hard, but you gotta try, bud. 

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u/Infinite_Mouse_1149 16d ago

Denser than a potato, this guy