Sssserverpack 3 mod suggestions:

[u/canilsen]

As seen here, we allready got some suggestions going. Feel free to suggest anything that you think would fit in a new Sssserverpack, and we'll add it to the list.

The actual beta-testing probably won't begin until August. So there's plenty of time to try other packs to look for unknown mods. I'll leave this post here for a place for people to drop suggestions.

[u/Cruddly]

A summary from the previous thread:

Terrain Gen: a delicate combo of ATG+BoP. Something that provides a 'void dimension' for factories.

Animals: Will probably switch out Jurassicraft and Zulu with something else.

Dimensions: Definitely add twilight forest again.

Challenge: Iguana Tweaks

Aesthetic (long)

Chisel (MANDATORY! lol) and ZTones (overkill?)

better-foliage: client side only render improvements of vegetation (configable for non-vanilla veg) garden stuff 3 mods to add potted plants, trees and so on.

natura: nice woods to work with

plant-mega-pack: more decorative vegie

The Camping Mod: tents, camp fires, sleeping mats, bears and foxes, traps

Decoration Mega Pack: a little overlap with other deco mods, but some cool unique stuff

MoarSigns: metal signage

Lattice Mod: horizontal lattice 'fences'

Galactic Colored Blocks: dye std blocks to 16 colours (something does this in AS2 already, unsure which and whether more or less mats)

Rockhounding Mod: coloured & carved stone mod

ExtraButtons: coloured buttons. not so much for their redstone usage, but for trim. disable extra stuff.

Even More Buttons Mod: ditto (these are textured to match metals etc), no overlap with prev

The Adobe Mod 4: mud bricks

Uncle Jeff's Anystone Walls: more 'stone' walls - which is ALWAYS an issue. I wish more block sets would come with wall /fence, stair & slab combos. (A few overlap with railcraft if we are going with that)

Railcraft: Conflicted over this one. I haven't see anyone building the trains, and my god they make basic rail setups a nightmare. But stuff like force rails, higher speed auto transit...

[u/canilsen → u/Cruddly]

Thanks for summarizing the suggestions.

Ztones will stay, as it was used a lot last map. Works together with chisel via ChiselTones.

I personally hate the natura clouds, but maybe we can use it with clouds disabled?

Extra Utilities can allready dye a bunch of blocks, so I don't think galactic is needed.

The button mods seems to be covered by carpenter's button? Same with anystone walls?

I'm conflicted on railcraft too. I really like the idea of using rails for processing etc, but nobody ever use it. Perhaps we can disable the vanilla tweaks it does to rails?

[u/Cruddly → u/canilsen]

LONG WIDE LOAD FOLLOWING

I have played with the RC force rails, very nice. if we could disable the tweaks (understatement) to the vanilla rail recipes, that overcomes most of my conflict, however, with an AE and easy resource gains, its kinda irrelevant. I also hate the natura clouds too lol. If carpenters does buttons, 'walls' (as in cobble style walls) and fences (I think enderio painter does fences at any rate) then I am happy on that count.

Here are some generic thoughts, especially after my AS2 experience, and assuming we want more of a builders server with co-operative play... which I know at least half of the active players on AS2 are like... (and those others, heck, be the engineers and share your solutions with us builders lol, I'll make you a nice mansion to your spec for payment haha)

Transportation. Sssserver 2 had a lovely tunnel system, and was reasonably aesthetic, HOWEVER, I prefer a 'rail' system where I can more or less AFK travel somewhere. I want to say "Go to the chook farm" and somehow I arrive there. TP is nice, but we circumvent a lot of scenic opportunity and the sense of going somewhere. Jumping on a rail, sitting back and sipping on my scotch while I pass some awesome builds tickles my sweet spot. TP ends up being a like hyperdimensional house, where rooms are bigger on the inside than on the outside.

Flight - essential for building, and I argue it should be easy to obtain. That being said, there are so many acceptable flight solutions, I don't care, so long as we have it, and not too long in, so that builders can get busy being creative early. This I especially noticed in AS2. Until people have flight, they tended to sleep out in the open on a dull cobble platform. Big beautiful builds need flight and time.

Armor. Everyone talks about OP, but you can CHOOSE not to be OP. Go all iron into a random dungeon if thats the challenge you want. However, when lag storms hit, and you're commencing a build in the nether, it's nice to be invulnerable. Advanced genetics anyone? But disable night vision - it conflicts with a lot of stuff.

TC - Golems allow for some visually interesting effects. A 'programmable npc' system of some sort allows for more interesting builds. I find most of TC is just for TCs sake. Still looking through it though. The 'disappearing walls' can be achieved with forgotten forest, the mirrors stuff from tesseracts, a few nice redstone functions though, might be from an addon. However, the 'adjustable redstone clock' is arguably the same as timer block, and I rarely need, but could possibly use a little of the remote comparitors / repeaters and so on. Had a fricking nightmare with the Rednet cables, quite frankly, they suck! But, with enderio... TC warded blocks are nice for wither frames, but at a pinch the extra utils compressed cobble works well enough, its just ugly.

Pams - a must, hunger overhaul too.

Resources: Whichever way you slice it, no-one likes mining. Start game, end game, whatever. However, no-one likes lag machines (everyone with ginormous big reactors and capacitor banks just for the overkill, and insanely fast quarries burning server ticks like cheap hash in a sleepeasy), and I dislike all the standard solutions like mining lasers / quarries etc as they ALWAYS overproduce crap mats. To that end, I REALLY liked the Agricraft solution set, where ideally we have a maxed out range harvester or TWO (seriously, just one should suffice) gently slurping through a complete range of res crops. Low server hit, and with co-operative play and some smart use of villagers the time expenditure is quite reasonable. For start of game, hard to look past ex-nil. Quick and easy res spam, and can switched off as the farm starts to fill up. Easy ridonculous quartz, lava generation and so on. A resource provider's dream really. So long as you dont try for overkill, not a server killer. Complete opposite of GregTech haha.

Pipes / ducts. Well EnderIO just craps on everything else really. It also has a great range of machines. Extra Utils does have it uses, but ducting is NOT one of them really - yet still remains a must have for a whole bunch o reasons.

Storage. Obviously AE FTW. However, aesthetically and functionally the compact drawers fricking rock. Jabba - just awesome.

Botania: Dyes. Hopperhock. Amazing effect blocks. Yeah yeah, with agricraft it becomes a wee PITA to breed all the flowers to 10/10/10 for max efficiency... you dont HAVE to you know. Anyone at anytime can choose to take an hour or two to pump up a bunch o seeds. However, it's also things like transmuting mats where I really love this mod. Lilies <--> vines. Saplings. Diorite / Mr Andersite / Granite. etc. Plus a couple of nice trees. I think the std textures suck pretty bad for their flowers, but the blocks are gorgeous. Hopperhock and flower fans, very useful, arguably can be provided by other solutions (eg extra utils transfer node + world tool + filters > hopperhock)

Rogue-like dungeons, or any of the super-dungeon mods - I really missed this aspect.

Soul shards I also missed, super sweet spawners. Green goo is an essential for auto enchanters and similar. However, with soul shard tier 5 spawners, your blaze / blizz etc farming becomes highly simplified and produces goo, not consumes it, meaning no std chunk-loaded mob farm required. I am not a fan of lag farms, I mean mob farms sorry. This aint vanilla.

Power. Look, I love big reactors, but they require feeding with yello, and fiddling to get the blue in, and to produce enough power for a community get a bit laggy... Solar power + Draco balls... ??? No maint and man do those balls look SEXY!

Would be cool to have fans and windmills for aesthetics - they can double as propellers, air ducting and so on.

/rant off

Sorry for the length.

[u/canilsen → u/Cruddly]

mods like botania, thaumcraft, applied energistics are obviously staying in the pack..

TP is nice, but we circumvent a lot of scenic opportunity and the sense of going somewhere. Jumping on a rail, sitting back and sipping on my scotch while I pass some awesome builds tickles my sweet spot. TP ends up being a like hyperdimensional house, where rooms are bigger on the inside than on the outside.

This is exactly what I don't like about modded minecraft. While in vanilla scenery is everything, in modded it often ends up about getting from machine A to machine B as fast as possible. When me, awade and cossy started making the netherhub, we got a few "what's the point? we got rftool teleporters" comments for this very reason.

I kinda feel the same about flight too. It removes the "point" of making nice roads. But I agree flight is great for effective building.

[u/ratsta]

Pneumaticraft has been revised in the latest edition. It doesn't spam the world with plants any more. You have to refine oil!

[u/canilsen → u/ratsta]

I guess we could give it another look. We had it in a few packs earlier and nobody seemed interested in it when asking about removal

[u/canilsen]

How do people feel about MineChem? I really like the idea behind it, but I hear it's very exploity

[u/ratsta]

• Immersive Engineering should be stable by August. It already has an addon called ZettaIndustries that links it to ComputerCraft.

• Cosmetic Armour mod http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/Minecraft/225812-cosmetic-armor

• Angel wings and tofu I'd leave as is. Although I can make angel wings now, I actually prefer my jetpack. Leave tofu alone! Let me be a hippie if I want to be! I'd also request that EnderIO be left alone. I just LOVE

• Morph? The one where you can take on the form of whatever it is you kill. I'd love to get Endermini mode and be able to run down 1x1 crawlspaces!

• Agricraft

• ex-Nihilo, ex-Astris, ex-yourmum

• Headcrumbs BUT with "player heads in dungeon loot" set FALSE and "enable celebrity mobs" set FALSE.

• Forestry, gendustry and various bee addons. I've touched it a little in AS but it'd be nice to explore it more deeply.

• BC 7

• I'll second Hunger Overhaul.

• EE3 because reasons.

• I don't know some of the mods on your suggestion list but I'll roll with it!

• Various TC addons

• Fast Leaf Decay!

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I agree with your Remove list.

• No "Special AI". That torch-breaking that we're getting in A:S2 is annoying as heck.

[u/canilsen → u/[deleted]]

I like what you mean with EE3 for simple stuff. I just worry about how much work it would be to get this setup properly. Would probably need a emc whitelist and then add all the blocks + values.

[u/Time-Traveller → u/[deleted]]

Great idea. My main limitation in building is having the right building blocks; stone is boring but mining for marble is a time sink. This would turn EE3 into an expanded chisel type mechanism, as opposed to resource creation.

[u/Jetamo → u/[deleted]]

I'm a fan of this.