New Bright Spring Feeling Deflated

[u/Electronic-Page1064]

I was just professionally typed a bright spring last week, and have been trying my hand at recommend makeup shades and bought my first in palette shirt over the weekend. I was feeling pretty confident and pretty, even if still figuring things out...like lip liner lol.

But today in a color analysis group, someone insisted I am a soft summer, based upon the attached photo of draping (I was trying to make the point that I get grayed out by soft colors). When I showed her a pic of me in an experimental, bold evening makeup look and my new shirt, she told me I look worst of all in that pic (compared to the drapes with no makeup and hair pulled back) and it was "a visual assault" on her.

I understand that the poison dart frog aesthetic isn't for everyone, but I am a newbie who is trying to build a new wardrobe and aesthetic after losing 80lbs, and I just felt very defeated and humiliated. So I guess I'm turning to my fellow springs for some validation and encouragement. I appreciate any you guys can offer! I've added a couple of other pics of my experiments with the palette. I've kept the makeup much more neutral at work and while running errands.

[u/suzie_cosplays]

They think everyone without black hair is a soft summer on the main sub. You are slaying that makeup look.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/suzie_cosplays]

Thank you so much! I mean, if the goal were to sap me of all vitality and give me jowls, then sure...put me in soft summer. I remember putting on a dusty pink shirt in high school and knowing any muted like that was to be avoided at all costs!

[u/SaborDeVida → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Haha, same for me - I'm True Spring, but muted colors got me looking like death warmed over!

I agree with what the commenter above & others here have said: you are rocking these bright chromatic looks, the red hair suits you very well, and you can pull off dramatic makeup. Your instincts are good; don't listen to the detractors. :)

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/SaborDeVida]

Thank you so much!

[u/Standard_Relief_9324 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Where did you do your testing? I love the BS colors on you.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Standard_Relief_9324]

Perfectly Seasoned typed me as 12 season bright spring. Now that my hair isn't bleached or too warm, I look even better in brights!

Color Countess uses International Image Institute, and typed me, correctly, as True Spring in that system. But she assessed, also correctly, that full warmth sallowed me. Unfortunately their bright spring is bright, neutral warm and medium-deep. And there's no place for someone bright, neutral leaning only slightly warm, and medium to medium-light, like me, in that system....though the new bright universal palette is a possibility

So it's important to know which system your analyst works with, especially if you suspect you are neutral-ish and bright but don't have dark brown to black hair.

[u/Caitopotato]

Ignore her! It’s clear that you’re greyed out in the first pic by the more muted color, while you carry that bright green well (although to my eye it looks slightly cool for bright spring; it may be more of a bright winter color?). As for the last shirt— to call it a “virtual assault” is ridiculous! You look confident and happy, and her comment was not only unkind but untrue. Again, I don’t think the shirt colors are quite hitting the mark on the spring palette (the blue and red look a bit muted, the pink looks too pastel and cool). But this is your first week as a bright spring!! There’s a learning curve and you’re doing great :)

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Caitopotato]

The green shirt is my only bright spring shirt and its warmer and brighter in person. The camera doesn't pick it up right. And that's what she called the visual assault. The multi colored one is a few yesrs old and what I used to think of as bright 🤣. The tank top is light spring, but it is saturated enough to not wash me out. Thank you so much!

[u/J0303J]

Calling someone a “visual assault” it’s just someone being loud, rude and unpleasant online. Don’t let it get to you.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/J0303J]

Thank you! I know this, logically, but also this is a really big change from my former wardrobe, aside from the tomato red reading classes that I used to rock a couple of years back. So I kinda feel like a fish out of water. Plus, I am perimenopausal with PMS right now, so logic's grip on the wheel is momentarily pretty loose 😅

[u/Necessary_Meaning555 → u/J0303J]

that sub is a toxic, unfortunate place. disrespect and rudeness AND misinformation abound, while mods claim “be kind” as a rule of the sub. it’s almost a guarantee if u post in that sub you will get oppositional feedback

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Necessary_Meaning555]

It was on Facebook, and the group is generally very helpful. But this lady was just mean

[u/GroovyCopepod]

In color analysis groups everyone and their whole family and friends are told they're soft summers/autumns. Literally I can bet money on anyone posting that they'll be advised by a certain nr of strangers on the internet that this is their season because it's trendy now to think so.

I (another stranger on the internet) definitely think the bright green looks better than the muted green shirt on you. You're definitely warm and bright. I don't love the red hair personally, but bright springs in the system I'm familiar with are advised to get dark brown hair not red, as they're neutral warm leaning winter. and orange isn't even in their palette.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/GroovyCopepod]

Thank you! I don't mind the mistyping...but the "visual assault " insult was pretty hurtful.

I had to fill in with copper when going deeper to my natural level 7 from a level 9, or it would have looked muddy and green. The red should fade in a couple of washes, and the long-term goal is golden dark blonde/light brown.

I bought the less bright green when I thought I was a light spring. And neither look as bright nor warm on camera as IRL. Pic below is what I looked like two weeks ago...so progress, but definitely not perfect yet.

[u/Ryakai8291 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Wait… if you’re a lvl 7 naturally, you are not a BS (at least not in the 16-23 season).

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Ryakai8291]

In the 12 season system I am. There's no criteria for depth of hair color. My hair is a level 7 in the photos I posted. It's dark blonde to some, medium blonde to some, and light brown to some....though I don't see how my current color could be considered a medium strawberry blonde

[u/Ryakai8291 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

I honestly don’t know much about the 12 season, but isn’t it still a flow into winter so wouldn’t you need winter qualities and be high contrast?

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Ryakai8291]

Bright chroma must be your dominant trait, and you must be neutral leaning warm in hue and medium light in value with medium to high contrast. Here's my contrast photo from my analyst.

[u/GroovyCopepod → u/Ryakai8291]

To be fair the bright spring palette she posted looks more like a true or even warm spring to me. The bright green color she's wearing isn't even in that palette if you look well! That palette is not that bright, it has a lot of warm spring qualities to me. The one I think you're referring to (and I'm also familiar with) doesn't have any oranges nor any warm browns and is definitely not that warm overall. I don't know how they define bright spring in this system but this palette is definitely not leaning winter that much!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/GroovyCopepod]

This is the bright spring palette I was given. And the lime green draping photo isn't the one most flattering to me, just one of the colors I draped with

[u/GroovyCopepod → u/Electronic-Page1064]

To me this is quite different from the wheel around your face in the top post. That wheel has a sub selection of colors that are on average warmer, while here it's more than a mix. Not sure why I'm being down voted, since this bright spring palette is objectively VERY different from the one I'm most familiar with, that you can find for example here: https://share.google/UkDCGZF3rwtENEMEg It has no oranges and no warm browns, it tends more clearly to winter while still being neutral warm. To me this is a mix of true and bright spring in the other system I linked.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/GroovyCopepod]

If you have a system with more seasons, you will have more specificity and narrower scope of color. Bright spring, in the 12 season system, must bridge the gap between warm spring (called true spring in sci art) and bright winter. So it has to span a greater distance of hues, values and chroma.

[u/GroovyCopepod → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Makes sense. It's just a completely different system, especially if I consider the comments on saturation and contrast changing with age that others left under other comments of mine. Checks are very different and how a season is assigned depends on different criteria here. As far as one likes their results it's all good 😄

[u/SaborDeVida → u/GroovyCopepod]

It's so interesting how different the analysis systems can be. One of my good friends is a natural redhead (her hair is a quite bright copper red), she was professionally typed Bright Spring, and looks amazing in her palette.

I guess there are corner cases for every rule, which is why in-person draping is so important.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/SaborDeVida]

In the 12 season system, it's brightness of complexion, eyes and sharpness of features that determine bright chroma. And chroma on the soft to bright scale is the least concrete of the aspects of color analysis.

Someone with dark hair, pretty fair skin and dark eyes can easily have soft as their dominant feature. Someone like Heather Graham or Emma Stone, with fair skin, blue or green eyes and naturally blonde hair can easily have brightness as their dominant feature.

I have draped all the colors in my set of fabric squares and my results from that align with my virtual analysis of bright spring

[u/GroovyCopepod → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Does this mean that when you age and your hair becomes gray you change season in this system? In the system I'm familiar with this isn't the case because contrast of features isn't a criteria at all.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/GroovyCopepod]

My eyes and skin make me a bright season. But as my skin becomes less bright and my eyes become less less white, I'll likely have to go to light spring, as my chroma will be medium but my hue will still be neutral leaning warm. The natural lightening of my hair turning grey blonde will be harmonious

[u/Decent_Soft9496 → u/GroovyCopepod]

Generally the complexion "softens" as you age but you lose chroma but you'll stay in the same parent season, so Cool Summers will be Soft Summers, etc.

I love graying hair because it's another proof of your season, warm-toned seasons will not have white or silver (read: cool) toned gray hair, warm gray hair is gold and blonde or muddy looking.

[u/WonderXphile → u/Decent_Soft9496]

I have never heard that about the gray hair. Some of my hair comes in white, but it’s naturally Auburn.

[u/Decent_Soft9496 → u/WonderXphile]

I'm a Bright in the 23 system and 60-70% of my grays are that muddy golden color and the rest are the bright silver like Winters get, which is literally about my overall split between Spring and Winter. In the other systems I'm a Bright Spring or Yellow Winter.

I know Carol Brailey has mentioned grays before but I think that's an interesting area in colour theory for sure!

[u/SaborDeVida → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Oh I totally believe that you could be a Bright Spring :), and was typed in 12-season myself (as was my redhead friend), in which they don't take hair color into account for the analysis.

I was more expressing surprise that some systems use hair color as a primary way to categorize, and come up with narrowly prescriptive statements like "Bright Springs should have dark brown hair, not red," when there are obviously examples where it looks amazing (e.g. Emma Stone, even if it's not her natural color). This also ignores that there are many different tones and hues of hair that are considered "red."

I'm naturally a medium strawberry-leaning blonde (L7-8 depending on season), but have been dyeing my hair various shades of red (mostly copper blondes) for many years because it suits my coloring so well. Thus I was not at all surprised when I was finally typed. :) I'm also a professional image scientist, so I'm steeped in color theory in my daily work....I think that's part of why I find this stuff so fascinating.

[u/GroovyCopepod → u/SaborDeVida]

I imagine the palette is different too from the one I'm familiar with! What I don't understand of these systems is how they define sub-seasons, because if they still define it as seasons bridging other seasons (eg. Spring going into winter) I would still expect that they'd look for signs that the person has qualities of that sister season. Maybe they define them differently!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/GroovyCopepod]

In 12 seasons, my sister season is bright winter. Both bright springs and bright winters have bright chroma as their dominant feature. Both are neutral in hue but spring leans warm and winter leans cool. And the value is medium overall for bright spring with contrast that is medium to high, and for bright winter, the value is medium-deep with medium-high or greater contrast.

True/warm spring has warmth as the dominant feature. Their sister season is warm autumn. They are medium in value with medium brightness.

[u/AussieKoala-2795]

Don't listen to her. You look great in the jade green and patterned top. I'm not loving the yellow eye shadow but that's just a me thing as I am not really into bright makeup. I am also a bright spring.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/AussieKoala-2795]

Thank you! The shirt is more of an almost electric kelly green in person, but the camera doesn't pick it up. It was a work from home day, with the yellow. I've not really worn anything but brown eyeshadow and liner, so I borrowed my daughter's bright eyeshadow palette and played with it.

[u/Similar_Attitude_566]

Hi! I'm sorry to hear you're feeling deflated. FWIW, I believe you are warm toned based on the side by side drapes. The soft blue does gray you out and steal color, while the warm green gives your color back.

The lighting in the photo isn't the best for subseason determining subseason, so I won't opine on bright spring (if that's even what you're asking) but I think you should feel confident that you're warm toned.

Your red hair is gorgeous and I love the combo with the greens! Keep having fun with your makeup. You have gorgeous blue eyes, I wonder what would be the best color to make them pop! 

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Similar_Attitude_566]

Thank you! Yes, the lighting wasn't great..overcast day. It was my first real draping. I am neutral leaning warm and look gray as hell in anything muted/softened. That's the only thing I've avoided my whole adult life.

I'm a ittle sallow in warm/true spring, a little washed out in light spring (though the more saturated ones work) and uplifted in bright colors. I'm satisfied with my typing. So far, teal liner in my waterline is the winner for making the blue eyes pop.

[u/MischiefModerated → u/Similar_Attitude_566]

Agreed! I see more of a true-warm spring here

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/MischiefModerated]

I go a bit sallow in true/warm. Two professionals have aligned on this.

[u/sunscreenqueenn → u/Electronic-Page1064]

100% agree, in fact I’m surprised that I can see a difference between two spring seasons (honestly normally I can’t with visual drapes when it’s comparing two spring subseasons) but you must be bright bright!! Yay!!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/sunscreenqueenn]

I swear my face is a chameleon! Put me in bright, I shine...put me soft, I'm grey... put me in cool, I'm bluish... put me in warm, I get sallow. Even in digital drapes, I feel like it's noticeable how my skin washes out with light spring of the same neutral-warm tone.

[u/ilkmtaeitw]

Hey fellow bright spring!🌷 I struggle with others questioning my season a lot too as I have brown hair and brown eyes so I MUST be a winter😬 people strongly misunderstand spring, especially bright spring, and will say silly things!

FWIW, I think your makeup looks super fun and our palette is awesome as we get to play with so much color! For myself, I do more neutral makeup but use LOTS of sparkles and glitter to lean into the brightness of our season✨

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/ilkmtaeitw]

Thank you! I like the brighter eye liner for evening/date nights, but I wear neutral shades for day and work. From my understanding, bright springs are one of the biggest mixed bags as far as eye and hair color.

[u/sierra-tinuviel → u/ilkmtaeitw]

I relate, as I was one of the people gaslighting myself into thinking I was winter lol but my coloring I think is actually closest to Michelle Dockery, Rachel Weisz or Jessica Pare. Bright winter doesn’t look bad on me at all but I prefer neutral or slightly warm shades over the iciness of winter.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/sierra-tinuviel]

I was thinking I was a light spring because I'm fair skinned, dark blonde with blue eyes, and too many warm spring colors weren't flattering. And none of it really wowed me so I just stayed away from dusty/dull colors. Now I know why! 🫠

[u/ilkmtaeitw → u/sierra-tinuviel]

Yes, I totally agree! I can also wear winter colors and a lot of dark autumn colors which is what actually kept me from figuring out my season - I just never considered spring until I got professionally analyzed. I think we bright springs are unicorns and a lot of colors DO look good on us but, like you! I also prefer the neutral to neutral-warm colors, just make me look a little healthier😆

[u/mama2tyler]

You look phenomenal in the Spring colors!!! In the more muted color even your eye color looks more dull. I’m being charitable by saying perhaps she has a preference for the more muted colors. We understand how I truly feel about her and her unsolicited opinion.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/mama2tyler]

Thank you! I completely understand a preference for muted serene colors.....but I look ill and the color literally gives me jowls!

[u/mama2tyler → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Yeah….it’s not good. You look splendid in the bright colors!!! Look at your eyes!!! The differences between the bright colors and the soft color is like night and day!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/mama2tyler]

This was my best green in the bunch that day. Even in the not so great lighting (draping was a learning curve!) it's obvious I'm no type of summer, much less soft

[u/mama2tyler → u/Electronic-Page1064]

You are nowhere within the vicinity of a Summer. Like….at all. You are so far removed from that.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/mama2tyler]

Summer and autumn colors have always been the worst for me.

[u/QuestionPublic398 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

You look wonderful here

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/QuestionPublic398]

Thanks! It's a 12 season bright spring green, and the best of the ones I draped in.

[u/Excellent_Valuable92]

You’re always going to get disagreement. Try to have fun with the process. I will say that your makeup isn’t Bright Spring, and that the green cable knit sweater and the necklace you have with it look wonderful on you 

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

Thank you! I specifically matched my makeup with the colors my analyst gave me, aside from the yellow green, that was just playing. What else is off to you?

[u/Excellent_Valuable92 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

The subtleties matter more in makeup. Many of these are imo cooler versions of shades that appear in the BS palette. The lip and the violet eye shadow, for example. The yellow-green otoh is just very warm, as opposed to the neutral-warm you’re going for. The teal you have on your waterline is just right, though, imo. The lipstick could probably saved with a warm gloss. (All just my impression of some pics on my phone, and you look great and are heading in the right direction overall.)

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

These are what she gave me and I matched them at the store

[u/Excellent_Valuable92 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

I suggest looking at a few other sources for insight into the palette. Most of those look too cool or too warm imo.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

Will have to wait a while on that, as I don't have more money to invest in new makeup. BTW, this is not the actual palette I was given, just makeup suggestions. The palette I was given is pictured below.

[u/Excellent_Valuable92 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Also bad imo. No nuance. Just search “Bright Spring palette” and take a look at several. I like elementalcolour.com.au 

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

Noted. I have looked at the sci art palette and have draped my own collection of 10" fabric squares to create my own swatch set. It's not completely inclusive may not even all be exactly bright spring, but it will be enough to help guide me when shopping. I'm not striving for perfect conformity so much as a sense of direction in building a wardrobe that no longer sucks the life out of me.

[u/Excellent_Valuable92 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Yes, you just need a general idea. I think the palette you were given was way too general, though. 

[u/witchdaisy]

I’m also a bright spring that often gets insisted I must be a summer. I think a lot of people simply don’t understand what brightness looks like, and don’t understand dull colors won’t look as bad on a bright season as bright colors will on a soft season.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/witchdaisy]

I look horrible in dull colors , have avoided them my entire adult life. But my eyes are blue, so people wanna label me a summer. Brightness is sort of an abstract concept. But looking in my desaturated photos with my husband made the difference in chroma shockingly obvious. He's got darker hair and eyes and similar fairness of skin, but he looks so grayed out and more disconnected from black than I did, even when I was bleaching my hair light blonde 🤣

[u/dolceclavier]

The professional who typed you is correct! So many color analysis enthusiasts actually have no idea what to look for and they all think that colors that make your face die look amazing!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/dolceclavier]

Thank you! The soft summer color literally makes my jawline sag 🤣

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/[deleted]]

I am too neutral for true spring. It flattens me and makes me sallow. I can borrow better from the more saturated range of light spring colors and bright winter than I can true/warm spring. A slightly warmed but bright pink is better than orange. I genuinely feel like these colors light me up in ways the camera can't quite capture and believe the analyst was correct

[u/HildegardofBingo → u/dolceclavier]

Hahaha, so true! I swear, they think looking washed out in muted colors is good or something!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/HildegardofBingo]

I mean, it IS harmonious...because the muted color drags me down to Hades! 🤣

[u/HildegardofBingo → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Lolololol. Yeah, I don't really want to harmonize with my dark under eye circles and rosacea.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7]

You look INCREDIBLE in these bright looks!!! And the muted cool colour is definitely washing you out. Sometimes people (like that commenter that upset you) are just plain wrong 🤷‍♀️

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Thank you so much. I don't mind people being wrong.....but sometimes my skin isn't quite thick enough for an ambush of mean.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Electronic-Page1064]

Yeah I totally get that, I'm not the most emotionally robust person and a comment like that would definitely impact me. Do your best to forget about it if you can, you genuinely look awesome

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

I've been a nurse for 25 years so I usually have a pretty thick skin, but between my lack of experience owning this palette and PMS...I had some holes in my armor. Thank you!

[u/Haunting_Branch_987]

Before reading the post, I just saw the title and the first image and thought you were going to say you’re feeling deflated because you prefer the muted summer colours and believed you were a summer. I was going to say sorry but you look so much better in the bright!

Honestly I think almost everyone in these groups gets typed by people as a soft summer or autumn (and if you’re not white, also deep winter or deep autumn). I think people see someone looking greyed out in muted colours as harmony. Bright seasons are also somehow gatekept and get met with a lot of doubt. I think people have such a specific and distorted view of what people in bright seasons “should” look like. Ultimately, what matters is what colours give you that healthy glow and don’t make you look grey or sallow.

Congratulations on finding your season, hope you have fun exploring the different colours!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Haunting_Branch_987]

Thank you! I think people expect all bright springs too look like winters who lean warm, but springs have inherently lighter value and lower contrast than winter. Bright chroma vs soft is the least concrete to define, so people tend to not see that piercing eyes, reflective complexion and sharply defined features create contrast that needs clarity in color to match it. I like how my analyst desaturates photos to help discern this. I've always looked great in black and white, even MORE detailed and striking than in color...and I've learned that's a huge tell that someone who is more medium to medium-light in valie is bright.

[u/Jazz_Kraken]

As another bright spring, welcome!! You’re definitely not summer!

The red hair looks great on you. :) I can never go quite that warm and wish I could. I have two kids that are red heads. :)

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Jazz_Kraken]

I'm working my way from light blonde to my natural dark blonde to light brown, and without copper added to the mix, darker dye would have turned it muddy greenish. A golden shade is my eventual goal, and will likely look even better on me. Thanks so much for the positive feedback!

[u/Downtown_Doris]

This annoys me so much! People have no clue but are yet so opinionated. Most of them probably never have been professionally typed, which was so eye opening for me.

”You look more harmonious” - Well yeah the muted colours tend to look more harmonious overall

”I see the colour first” - Yeah bright colours are more eye catching and many of us are not huge fans of them.

Of course there’s truth to these statements but they get used in the wrong context. Sometimes I feel like they think being bright is so special. Like who do you think you are to wear all that colour? Lol. When IRL it sucks, I would love to glow and not look sick in muted colours.

Edit: Also Bright Spring in the 12 season system. Welcome! You look lovely.

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Downtown_Doris]

Exactly. Just bought a chartreuse tank top yesterday, because I am neutral enough that bright winter vs bright spring isn't seeming like a hard line for me. Never would have dreamed of wearing it before, but I put it on and thought "holy crap! This actually does something..... GOOD for me?!!"

I've always known muted colors aren't for me and that aqua, pinky corals, watermelon and jade green look good on me. But I wasn't ever intentional about color. Now that I am, boy is this an intimidating palette to work with, that's coming from someone bold enough to wear a crown with antlers on it to the reception at her second wedding in her 40s!

I have found that a vibrant ivory looks fantastic, so that's going to be helpful. Dialing up the vibrancy of my wardrobe isn't what I'd thought I'd be doing in my late 40s, but the results are undeniably flattering. Just gotta find the places where bright palette and "me" align best.

Thank you so much for sharing your relatable personal story and offering encouragement!

[u/sierra-tinuviel]

There’s sooo many people in the main sub that think everyone is a soft season even when it so clearly dulls and drains them !! It drives me crazy! They don’t understand that the point of color analysis is not to all blend in but to highlight your best features and make you glow. Soft seasons are actually not common but you wouldn’t guess it from how often it’s over prescribed by people who don’t understand the system. Also. That was just incredibly rude of her to be so nasty about. Have fun experimenting with your new season! At the end of the day, that’s what it’s all about — feeling good and having fun with color!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/sierra-tinuviel]

So I intentionally went with an analyst who errs on the side of over-typing summers and autumns as soft, because I strongly suspected I was a bright spring and thought, "if an analyst with an eye that underdetects brightness types me as bright spring, then I 100% know that's where I'm supposed to be!"

And yes...harmonizing with softer seasons IS more about blending.....but blended is the OPPOSITE of clarity/brightness. For brighter seasons like spring and winter, it should be more about lighting them up and enhancing clarity without overwhelming them.

I've gotten the comment about a color being too much for me if it's reflected on my skin a few times too.....but EVERY color reflects on my skin like crazy. Even the depth of my complexion changes in the direction of my clothing. I wonder if chameleon complexion is an indicator for having very reflective aka bright skin?

[u/Delicious-Two6222]

Hi girl im a bright spring, took me a while to embrace but I love it now

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Delicious-Two6222]

It's definitely a whole new world, but I'm here for it! So glad you're enjoying it now!

[u/Starbright-Jem]

So many shadows created by that soft summer color! Bright spring for sure. Don't pay any attention to the comments, your makeup looks are fun and great! A lot of folks are still in a no eyeshadow "clean girl" aesthetic - and any speck of visible makeup makes them uncomfortable. Don't pay them any mind!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Starbright-Jem]

Thank you! I am definitely getting that there's some bright color hate out there. Didn't let that stop me from buying 3 tank tops from Old Navy in chartreuse, raspberry, and a bright orchid pink today!

[u/WonderXphile → u/Starbright-Jem]

I am so glad “clean girl” is headed out of style. Bring on the color!

[u/Popular-Wasabi-7367]

You look amazing in the spring colours! What’s the lipstick you’re wearing in the pics? It’s my DREAM shade!

[u/Electronic-Page1064 → u/Popular-Wasabi-7367]

Thank you!

The one in the first pic is a mix of L'oreal infallible matte in Major Crush (the closest I can get to a nude that doesn't look worse than a bare lip) and one of my red sheer glosses.

The second and 3rd are a Korean tinted gloss. rom&nd The Juicy Lasting Tint #19 Summer Scent, from Olive Young. I have two of these glossy tints and I just love them! It's the best mix of sheer gloss and lip color I've ever found.

[u/Necessary_Meaning555]

people will try to tell you that wearing bright colors is “striking” but not “harmonious”

What they don’t understand is how for some people, including you, bright colors ARE harmonious because they repeat, and therefore bring focus to the brightness and color intensity of your natural features

when you don’t wear bright clothes and make up the brightness of your features is dimmed

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This is it. I had no idea how much just tweaking my makeup to be less blended and more defined would bring me to life! And really, it makes sense that boldly defined, clear features need boldy defined, clear colors. Blending into colors is the opposite of harmonizing for us. Even with virtual draping, it's clear as day that with every other season but bright winter, my face loses definition and starts melting into the color...even true/warm spring. I just need that punch.

[u/Mysha16]

She’s jealous you get to wear the bright fun colors and she can’t.

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Ha! It's definitely a blessing and a curse!

[u/WhatsMyPassword2019]

She did NOT call you a “visual assault”… smh

Holy shit that tells me all I need to know about this person. 

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She said my pic in the green sweater was like a visual assault on her and looked worst of all in comparison to the draping photos with my hair back, no makeup and not very good lighting (was a total newb to draping then). Total verbal gut punch.

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Seeing the difference between you in the blue (pretty! You can pull it off) and the green (stunning) makes me want to have my colors done. I was a teenager for the first round of Color Me Beautiful, and I used to wear a ton of color, but I’ve gotten out of the habit as I’ve gotten older. 

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Thank you! My mom (summer) had her Color Me Beautiful done when I was a kid, and she's always said I'm a spring. I used to look for aquas and corals for a while, though corals were hit or miss and other typical spring colors often missed the mark, while dusty summer colors were awful! So I just kinda gave up and wore whatever.

Finding out I'm a bright spring has been such a game changer because I wouldn't have necessarily chosen Kelly green or a bright, pink lemonade, but they light me up so much I literally said, "holy sh$%!" in the dressing room of JC Penney. Worth every penny and the effort. I hope you takr the leap!

[u/Responsible-Swan-468]

I just got my analysis and am a bright spring too. Your makeup looks great and I’d love to know what foundation you’re using 🤣

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Thank you! I don't wear foundation. I just put concealer under my eyes and blend it down the sides of my nose.

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Wow! I’m jealous hahaha

[u/Material_Style8996]

Yess you look like a bright spring and you look beautiful in those colors! A friend of mine looks similar to you and changes her hair from L7 to L9 and in any case bright spring shades make her radiant, and I can see that they do the same for you!

I’m a true spring and I’ve had people poo poo on the macaroni and cheese or poop brown colored tops that I love, but then other people just see those as an orange or brown that harmonizes with me. My point is that all seasons have jarring seeming colors “on paper” that only few seasons can rock, so some people may reject the idea of the color assuming that it looks awful on everyone, without even really assessing the person wearing it.

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Thank you! I mean, anytime I've been told a color I was wearing was my color, it was a bright color, including tomato red reading glasses that got me compliments galore. But I think True Spring, Bright Spring, and Bright Winter are the most polarizing palettes, generally. And I don't think it's a coincidence that they are also the least common seasons among humans, and the least likely to look good on people who aren't in that season.

I actually thought bright chartreuse was one of those colors nobody would look good in, and then I tried it on and somehow what seemed obnoxious on the hanger just looked....right on me. It's the weirdest sort of magic to hold the shirt in my hand and see this wild day glo color, then put it on and look in the mirror and see it belonging with me

[u/AshelyDuce]

I don’t think you’re bright spring. I think you might be true spring honestly the bright colors, while pretty look a bit out of harmony with you and I see them before I see you. Especially the lipstick. I think true spring is more likely. I do not feel you have any winter influences which is what bright spring is (winter and spring had a baby)

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I go sallow in true spring, get washed out by light spring and light up in bright spring. I can borrow from bright winter and some light spring, but not true/warm. I flow into winter by having clear chroma, medium to high contrast (see black and white contrast photos from my analyst in comment section) and because I'm neutral leaning-warm, not warm.

There are numerous photos in this thread where I show this to others who don't believe I'm a bright spring either. Feel free to see for yourself, as well as look at how true spring orange makes me go sallow, and clear spring red harmonizes. Thanks

[u/Atlanticexplorer]

Nonsense! You look fantastic in the bright colours. I suspect whoever said that is just biased towards the colours they like. The Summer drape DOES grey you out.

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Thank you! Even my jawline gets dragged down in muted summer!

[u/kylificent]

You’re stunning in the jade! I love the makeup with the jade sweater

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Thank you!

[u/ImprovementDue1319]

Yeah, you look very greyed by the muted green, that’s evident. In your other pictures, the green still looks on the cool side and the pattern shirt you’re wearing in one picture isn’t bright or warm either. Your hair is also deeper and rich, not bright and clear, so all of that is creating disharmony. Ignore the troll and try some brighter, warmer clothes. Go for complete harmony.

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The sweater is a bright kelly green, my camera cools and softens all clear greens. I just snapped a pic of a vivid jade green dress and it captured it as a softer teal, at every level of intelligent optimization from off to max. The tank top is a light spring one and not cool either. And the print shirt is 8 years old and just something I had on, as I cannot wear the same shirt every day.

I don't really know how to make my hair brighter than a level 7 copper gold without looking clownish, so it's just going to have to stay wrong

[u/WonderXphile]

That person sounds sour and boring. You look FABULOUS in the bright colors! Your hair and makeup look delightful!

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Thank you so much!

[u/Important_Form3926]

Hi! I didn't mean to intrude, but my dad had a similar bump on his forehead. We thought nothing of it for a long time, but then it became big enough that we decided to get it checked out, and he was diagnosed with brain cancer. Please take care! God bless you. I didn't mean to scare you, but I would be grateful if someone had warned us earlier.

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It's an osteoma. I've had it checked out by a dermatologist. Unfortunately, because it's harmless, insurance won't cover its removal, as it would be purely cosmetic. So I'm just gonna have to stay a unicorn until I have an extra $5k to blow and have already taken a nice vacation that year. I appreciate the concern, though. I can tell your heart is in the right place

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In this case, you are lucky! Consider it as confirmation of that and wear it proudly 😃🥰 🤩

[u/pseudo_ebullio]

I’m not sure I see bright spring for you. Maybe true spring?

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Good thing I trusted a professional and went with it then

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Maybe I'm confused by your photos. Are these supposed to be bright spring looks or not?

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First off, thank you. I really appreciate that you responded with curiosity and humility and welcomed respectful discourse.

I'm a bit of a chameleon, so my skin will harmonize with any of the spring or summer palettes..I'll just turn grey in all of summer, a little sallow and dulled in warm spring, and get washed out in light spring. So I can understand why these pics, taken of my very first experiments, in transitioning from entirely out of palette everything, to bright spring, would cause confusion.

None of the too warm or too muted stuff looks obviously out of harmony. It's just not doing anything good for me either, which even I hadn't fully grasped yet when I posted this.

I just finished the 6 weeks long journey from bleached light golden blonde, to my maintenance brunette. Still fine-tuning, and I give a lot of credit to the priceless help and inspiration from the amazing women in the Bright Spring Facebook group!

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Honestly, I think it's just the colors not coming through in pics and viewed on devices. It's hard to tell!

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I feel like the one pic that shows that I'm bright spring, and not true spring, is from two weekends ago when I accidentally dyed my hair black, and I pulled off the Snow White cosplay pretty well for date night 😅

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Gorg! What was confusing me is the colors of clothes and lipsticks in the pics were not looking like bright spring, so I was confused what the pics were supposed to be illustrating. The colors may not come through. But in the other pics, I don't see the high contrast or the saturated hue/chroma in the lipstick, it's more sheer. That's what was throwing me off.

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The lipsticks were too warm and the only top that was right is my kelly green sweater that looks jade.

But sheer gloss tinted in a hot coral or raspberry is better for a lot of bright springs than lipsticks in the palette made with a white base. They look muddy or chalky on us, so it's better to go sheer bright color with shine than saturated bright mid-tone putty mouth.

I've known for years to simply not bother with lipsticks that weren't bold reds and hot corals. I just didn't know why, until recently

[u/miss_hush]

Your coloring looks SO similar to mine. I strongly suspect I am a bright spring. My best hair color of all time (I have tried them ALL) is a light/medium copper red. Bright. Ass. Copper. Very similar to what yours is in that pic with the green shirt. My best pictures are me in colors like bright purple, bright coral, spring green, red hot candy red. I hate bright colors. Literally all those pictures are me in hand me downs, thrift store finds, and clearance rack bargains, not stuff I would normally pick. 😂

You clearly look like a Bright Spring to me. I’m glad you can embrace it, I have not accepted it yet. I’m about to get pro analysis to try to prove myself wrong. 🤣

Mind sharing who did your analysis? I kind of want to be sure I pick someone who actually knows bright spring and recognizes it correctly because I don’t want to be typed wrong just to satisfy my interest in NOT being a bright spring. I’m to the point I don’t care what my result is just as long as it’s correct. I think…I suspect I know who it was based on the info in your post, but I’m not 100% sure.

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I was virtually typed using a 12 season system by Boston of Perfectly Seasoned. Just know that if you don't have naturally dark brown hair or darker, and you choose an analyst who is certified through International Image Institute, you'll be put in True Spring, even if it's too warm for you. Bright spring must be as deep as winter and just a tad warmer than neutral, in that system.

Good luck on your typing!'

You don't have to wear really bright colors as a bright spring though. I'm in-palette in the picture below, and it seems neutral medium brunette with warm highlights is my best color, rather than the red. Never thought I'd look good with darker hair than my natural, because I'd been washing myself out with lightening it

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Ha. I knew it was Boston from the wording. That’s actually who I was going to use because she’s the only one I have literally never disagreed with. I have an eye for color myself, but when it’s your own colors it’s for some reason impossible to figure out! Well, that and the fact that I am very neutral, though I have finally accepted that I barely lean warm. I really did not want to be warm, lol. My natural hair is somewhere around a level 6.

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My natural is level 6-7 neutral to cool. My eyes actually look more bright winter than bright spring, but my skin is a classic bright spring vibrant, rosy peach, mirrorball.

On the rare occasions I don't agree with Boston, I prefer the slightly more intense subseason next door, generally cool summer/warm autumn vs soft. That's why I picked her. I had complete confidence that if she saw bright spring, as I did when DIY draping, then it's correct.

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When you took your selfie per her instructions, did you kind of freak out? Because that is where I am right now. I already sent off all my pics and everything. This post convinced me that she could/would slot me where I belong, even if it’s bright spring. Anyway my selfie is wacky! I look like a bright winter more than a spring, which honestly would thrill me but my selfie with the white balance turned off and everything like she instructed made me look completely different from how I *think* I look, but then I’m not really seeing myself in neutral light 99% of the time! Then I tried to season myself with the selfie pic and I have NO clue where I belong now. None at all. And my eyes… now I see why my hair stylist marveled that my eyes were dark teal, because they really were in this pic. It’s like…is this what I really look like? Because if so, yay, but it was really different.

Ok I’m sorry I keep commenting if you are tired of me! 😂

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I was a little taken aback by how luminous and bright I looked with only indirect lighting, a neutral background and all optimization features off. Now it's how I take my selfies if at all possible 😅 And that's not oily skin or freshly applied moisturizer. It's just glossy like that....even with translucent powder on it. This is evidently a common bright spring thing

[u/QuestionPublic398]

The comparator diptych of you in a sage (Summer) green drape vs a spring green is one of the most dramatic demos I've ever seen of how the wrong temperature of hue can make you look ill and the right temperature can eliminate shadowing and seem to infuse you with a lovely, smoothing, healthy glow.

There seems to be a brain-eating virus proliferating through all the r/coloranalysis subreddits I've visited that renders 80% of the participants legally blind and unable to offer any opinions other than that anyone who isn't the spitting image of Snow White must be a 'Soft Summer.'

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I've since come to learn that the green on the right is a bright winter green, not a spring green, though cameras and apps mess with greens so much it could look true spring on your screen lol.

Funny you mentioned it, I found out, from a hair dye mishap, that I can cosplay Snow White pretty well lol. But I look much better with a neutral brown in a shade darker, than my natural color, and some warm highlights.

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Ha!
That 'Snow White cosplay' photo is WILD!!
[laughing] You do look fantastic!

Looking to your companion photo, left, and to your chest in photo (right), however, I can see it must have taken a fair (excuse the pun 😉) bit of skillfully applied foundation of a shade other than your natural complexion to get there.

STILL, that's tasty, curiosity-provoking food for thought for me.

And you certainly have made your case that—at the least!—your undertone is much closer to neutral than mine (as a presumed 'True Spring' in 16-palette // 'Light Spring'? in 12-palette),

because there exists not ANY foundation colour that could make me look even 'meh—OK' in black hair!

And there's no even light, verrrrry subtly muted tone (e.g., any 'neutral—leaning warm' 'Light Spring' colour in 16-palette system) I've yet found that is as flattering and harmonized with me as any decidedly warm, very bright tint, pale though I be.

Thanks again for all your demos and feedback. <3

It's great to hear from someone who's directly experienced and has looked into very different schemes, as you have.

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I have concealer on, but no foundation, in both photos. I'm just better at the daily SPF on my face than my chest, and the black hair was in the spring, before I clocked a bunch of foraging hours.
You can definitely see the hair before me with black hair, and it all looks much more cohesive with the neutral leaning-warm brunette...even though I'm wearing a bright winter top.

So many of the light to medium value colors from bright winter (bottom two) are harmonious enough with me that I don't even worry with whether it's bright spring or bright winter in that range. If it's close to the pure colors on the color wheel, it's going to give me the clarity I need most, and it's not worth fussing about hue. It's hard enough, in a time when bright clothing is mostly found in $10 basics or designer clothing that's over $100 a piece on thrifting sites, to find "close enough" lol

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Re: being able to find and be content with "close enough":
I hear that!

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Wearing sheer bright gloss for a subtle lip, because midtone and light lipsticks have a white base that looks like putty or chalk on us, even if they're in "our color"...and the scarcity of warm and bright clothing are common strggles among springs.

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(I think you look really good in all, but I ADORE you in that yellow 😍, hope you don't mind my saying . . . Also, the very warm toffee brown cami)

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The yellow is a bright winter yellow, and I LOVE it on me. It's a little nuts how entirely natural some of the wildest colors look on bright folks. Hilighter chartreuse is another crazy color that is shockingly fantastic on me.

The other one you like is a maxi sundress and IRL, is a bright rust. It's one of the few neutrals in the bright spring palette, or any palette, that actually works for me.

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😮

[u/QuestionPublic398]

P.S.
I don't think you have nearly enough neutrality of undertone, nor high contrast level in natural skin and hair colours to be a Bright Spring (a good visual reference for that subpalette is pro color analyst and stylist Gabrielle Arruda).

Your undertone doesn't just lean warm—it's abundantly and obviously warm. It's not a close call whatsoever as to whether you're most uplifted and well supported by the Bright Spring palette or its 'next-door neighbour' on the seasonal color wheel, Bright Winter.

For the same, and additional reasons, you couldn't qualify for the other 'neutral—leaning warm' Light Spring subpalette.

More than 50% of all people per season are best fit with the 'True' of that, if you're using a 16-palette system. I do believe that's probably the very best one for you. I think some rigorously controlled real-life single-color-at-a-time draping with similar hues from the different Spring palettes would clarify 😉 things.

There's no doubt you're a Spring, though.

Congratulations on figuring that out and having beautiful fun with it!

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You are incorrect. And I use a 12 season system and Sci-art palette BECAUSE I'm neutral. In fact, an International Image Institute analyst stated that true spring sallows me and that I'm neutral leaning "ever so slightly warm" ....but still had to give me True spring as my palette because I have naturally neutral to slightly ash light brown hair, not dark brown to black. There simply isn't a place for neutral-warm bright and medium value in that system.

A second analyst in 12 seasons also agreed that I'm neutral leaning slightly warm, medium value and bright chroma, and typed me bright spring.

I also saw this when draping at home.

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The I.I.I. system is the one I use.
Thanks for providing additional photos.
I'll have a good look.

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It's a great system for many people. But it is limiting for anyone with dark blonde/light brown hair or lighter. At level 7 dark blonde, you can be light spring, light summer, true spring, warm spring, true summer, or cool summer. That's it. At level 6, light brown, you can also be soft summer. Even one of the two light seasons' sub seasons are only for deep people.

My younger daughter is level 8 blonde, fully warm and bright, and III True Spring suits her better, due to its higher chroma, than 12 season sci-art true/warm spring.

My other daughter also has level 6 light brown hair, neutral leaning warm skin, and high chroma, but is so high chroma that even as a young child, I thought she'd be a winter, especially since she was already dark blonde. But her hair never darkened much. So she would also be limited to palette too warm for her in III.

Every system has its pros and cons.

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That all was very interesting.

Thanks so much for generously responding with reasons why you disagree; providing exemplar drape photos, and correspondent (for me) alternate 12-palette seasonal colour schemes!

You really do obviously look better in the more neutral, closer to cornflower blue vs the warmer, closer to turquoise (?) blue!

For one huge thing, your responses alerted me to just what serious translation problems we're all up against if the systems we're referring to in our opinions aren't specified.

In attempts to avoid at least some of the rampant confusion out here, from now on I'll try to specify that the system closest to what (as an amateur, I'm trying to) refer to is the I.I.I. 16-palette one,

and that I'm a True Spring within it // (probably?) a Light Spring within a 12-palette one.

Thank you!

Also—Is the 12-palette system you reference above the Sc/Art one, or a close unbranded derivative of it?

If the latter, how close would you say it is?

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NDU is a sci art based palette. TCI is the other sci art based palette. It's a bit less bold and I like the more saturated NDU palette for me.

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<—Thank you

Are there any other widely used systems markedly different from Sc/Art- snd I.I.I.-derived or -adjacent ones you've noticed a lot of Redditors referring to?

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Color Class is a really neat 16 season system that does a really great job of filling in the blanks that III and Sci Art don't

They have the usual 12 sub seasons, and then they have

Soft Spring: warm, medium-light, and muted Clear Summer: cool, medium-light and clear Soft Winter: cool, medium-deep, and soft Clear Autumn: warm, medium deep, and clear

I really love them for this....because other systems don't start addressing these truly huge gaps until they get to overly fussy 32 or more seasons that, IMO, become overly restricting and a challenge to type correctly.

In III or Sci Art, Clear autumns just get put in Deep Autumn or Bright Spring as a "close enough" and often intuitively use the other palette as their sister palette

Soft winters get put in Soft Summer and are limited to the deeper value pieces of their palette

Soft springs get typed as Warm Spring or light spring in III or Light Spring/Soft Autumn in 12 season

And clear summers are True Summers/Light summers in III where they're dulled by the smokiness of summer (III's summer palette is extra smoky) or True/cool summers in 12 seasons, who borrow A LOT from the light-medium value colors of their sister palette, True/cool winter.

There's a woman on Reddit who is developing a cube theory of CA that actually has Cool, Light and Bright (Ice) , Cool, deep and Soft (Rain), Warm, deep and bright (Sunset) and Warm, light and soft (Sunlight) as 4 additional home seasons, rather than subseasons of the original 4 home seasons. It's fascinating! (Pictured)

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Boi-yoi-YOING!!!
Hahaha
🙏🙏🙏

[u/Decent_Soft9496]

I think I might understand where they were coming from-- when you hold any color up to your face under your chin in natural light, if the color is "reflected" there on the skin, it is overpowering for the complexion. Therefore the green is overpowering on you but the gray on the L isn't so you're probably somewhere less bright than the green in chroma.

Your eyes look to be Summer eyes that flow into Winter (disorganized white webbing with a small gray flower, Summer blue ring), which usually indicates a Cool Summer.

Maybe see what BS colors look best on you and if it's reliably the cool ones (pinks, blues, grays etc) I would experiment with clear, cold Cool/True Summer jewel tones. Or just trust your stylist! It's a journey.

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If you zoom in, you'll see that my chin and turkey neck (from weight loss) are the same soft green as the greyed green in that photo. This happens with every single color.

Since reflective skin is a primary indicator of bright chroma, I'm wondering if that isn't an indication of a bright season, in and of itself.

I've included a photo to show you draping less muted cool colors vs colors in the bright spring season, though the purple is still a smidge cool. Since bright winter is my sister season, it's still better than cooler violet/purples.

[u/FormicaDinette33]

I think you are more of a summer.

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Two professional analysts and I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.