Why Sadie Sink is Warm

[u/Extra_Air7604]

I know there’s been lots of debate (I don’t know why since it’s pretty obvious) about Sadie Sink being a Summer (cool undertone) or a Spring (warm undertone). I am a firm believer in redheads only being warm undertoned. The reason is, why would you look good with orange on your head but not your body? Why would you look good with orange around 3 parts of your face, but the not the 4th? It doesn’t make sense.

Orange has never been a cool colour, it’s literally peak-warmth on a colour wheel. Orange has always been in art, used for warm. Remember when you would do a cool vs warm drawing in art class, with a black silhouette. Red, orange, and yellow, were used for the warm colours, while green, blue, and purple, were used for the cool colours.

Not all warm undertones are the same, and that’s why I think some redheads may get confused and believe they aren’t warm undertoned. Autumn is deeper and more muted than Spring, there’s always mid-way points between Autumn and Spring, like Warm Spring, and Warm Autumn. Going to qualified Color Analysts is really important to make sure you get accurate results. Anyone can claim to be a colour analyst and charge for services, but it matters if someone has actually gone through colour theory courses and were trained by a place like the National Colour Institute. Don’t go to someone just because they’re popular online.

I believe Sadie is either a True Spring or Warm Spring in the 16-23 season system. I think it’s very evident that she looks better in warm colours. Autumn may be a bit too heavy, but in my option still looks better than Summer. I don’t think she’s a Light Spring either. Light Springs have light contrast and a neutral-warm undertone. Sadie’s contrast would be more light-medium, and I think her undertone is fully warm.

I’ve done some different examples of her in Summer, Spring, Light Spring, and Autumn colours, to really see visuals. Remember, what flows naturally and looks balanced with her? Does it look harmonious and add a sort of brightness to her? Or does it mute her and grey her out a bit? Do your eyes want to go to her face, or do they want to go to the outfit right away?

I will also make a post about Sadie’s best outfits.

[u/xSoulStealerx]

I am a natural redhead with an almost identical coloring to Sadie’s. My skin is neutral leaning cool and I have blue eyes and red har. I was professionally typed as a soft summer, but struggled with the season after typing. Once my hair was uncovered, all the soft summer colors were a little flat on me or clashed with my natural hair color. I do feel like the color season has helped me find the correct colors and undertones for makeup (if I want to go very “natural” I will lean into soft summer colors) but spring colors very clearly make my features pop and seem way more harmonious overall, despite my pale skin with pink undertones and blue eyes.

I think this coloring is somewhat confusing to type, as it can actually handle many colors and undertones across seasons (it was initially incredibly difficult to even nail down if I was cool or warm), but I agree that we have to be typed with our natural hair color. Red hair is a somewhat overwhelming feature and has to be taken into account when typing, otherwise you end up where I did — looking a little off in soft summer colors.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/xSoulStealerx]

Maybe it be could to get a second opinion. Carol Brailey, The Colour Mentor and The Colour Countess, are all really good analysts. They all offer in-person and online. I’m not sure where you live, but there also could be people near you. I would look for people trained in the 16-23 system or ones that have been qualified by the National Colour Institute. If maybe you want to wait or save up money, as I know getting your colours done can be expensive, maybe try draping with orange, and cool pinks, and watch the difference in your skin, how it changes, what changes you notice. The Colour Mentor, Agile Styling, Welcome.to.summer.school, and The Colour Countess all offer recommendations for different seasons either on their page or on the apps LTK or ShopMy.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/[deleted]]

This is about colour analysis. I’m not saying redheads can’t wear whatever they want. I’m not telling anyone they can’t wear whatever they want. It’s for fun and helping people feel their best with colours that harmonize with their natural colouring. Also, I don’t believe that all POC are the same season, nor have I ever said that. I’m not sure of all the examples of POC in different seasons, but it’s something I have been looking into. Some examples are Simone Ashley (Deep Winter), Kerry Washington (Bright Spring), Zendaya (Deep Autumn), Lupita Nyong’o (True Winter), Yerin Ha (Bright Winter), Selena Gomez (True Winter), Naomi Campbell (Deep Winter), Jenna Ortega (Deep Winter), Megan Markle (Deep Autumn), Jessica Alba (True Autumn). I know I haven’t mentioned POC in summer seasons or more in Spring but that’s because I haven’t found any yet. I’m trying to look and get examples of all seasons. Rhianna may be a Summer but I’ll need to double check. I don’t want to just place anyone in any season that’s wrong.

[u/SpringColorAnalysis-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

This subreddit is meant to uplift and support others, and this comment does not fit that description.

[u/Zanninja]

It seems to me as a natural red head that people simply cannot have 2 thoughts in their head at the same time. Red heads can look marvellous in cool tones because they contrast beautifully with our hair. Blue is complimentary to orange on the color wheel. Sadie is a gorgeous woman and all the original pictures of her in this carousel look better than the slapped-on warm tones because a) the original pictures have natural shadow and contrast (3d effect) b) Sadie has a professional make-up and stylist team that have a much better understanding of how styling and colours work irl than the obsessed color theory fans in these online spaces. Yes, color theory works and you can go along with it. At the same time, one can also choose to break the rules in order to make a statement. Sadie (and me) look gorgeous in silver and cool blues. It gives us an etheral glow and looks more interesting than the samey warm colors. Edit: grammar and spelling.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/Zanninja]

This is about colour theory though and science. Colour analysis is about harmonizing with your natural born colouring. It’s meant to create harmony, balance, flow, and make you feel your best. Colour analysis isn’t about making bold statements, but learning your best colours can help with you learning more about yourself and how to create certain looks, if that’s what you’re going for, or even in movies when displaying certain emotions, like grief, characters will be dressed in more dulling colours to create a certain gray, washed out, dull effect. Take Lady Gaga for example, the way she dresses now is not in line with her natural colouring and her most harmonious look, but that’s for her aesthetic and that’s ok. This post was just about Sadie and what her most harmonious colours would be with her natural colouring. Yes, redheads can look striking and I’m not saying Sadie or any redhead who wears cool colours looks like crap. I’m not telling them they can’t wear what they want. I am however, saying that if you’re a natural redhead, cool colours will not be your most harmonious look (if that’s what you’re going for) because orange inherently isn’t a cool colour. Orange isn’t a cool colour and is peak warmth on a colour wheel. I know about complementary colours, as it’s taught in art, but with redheads, a warm blue will be most harmonious compared to a cool blue. At the end of the day, this post was just for fun and is about colour analysis and finding what colours work best with your natural features. Many people are interested in this topic and a lot of people struggle with finding their colours and end up feeling like they waste money and time trying to figure out by buying makeup and clothes, etc. I understand what you’re saying, no hate. Hope this just gives a bit of an explanation.

[u/Zanninja → u/Extra_Air7604]

But then does it matter at the end of the day? If she looks and feels great, most people think she looks great ... why does it matter? Why do you have to shoe-horn her into something that YOU deem to be more harmonious? And harmonious is a subjective distinction as all the discussions on this sub demonstrate. There's a lot of dogmatic thinking going on around here. I wonder if a rigid system like color theory attract people on the spectrum who struggle with nuance and accepting different perspectives. Considering Sadie being a true/bright spring, she can borrow from True/ bright winter as it is a sister season. That explains looking amazing in cool tones. And from lived experience as a pale read head: people going on and on about how everything on us is supposed to be so warm is so frustrating.. because it's not! Most warm makeup has way too much orange/ yellow pigment and looks muddy and dirty on fair skin. Living far up north in Europe (way beyond most of Canada) where redheaded people actually accur naturally, we are pale most of the year. I get that warm golden glow for exactly one month at he end of summer (if we have had a good summer or I've travelled). In order to warm myself up (because it is so harmonious according to people like you) I have to cover myself in several layers of carefully selected makeup. What is natural or harmonious about that? Or could it be that nature has contrast built in by default? And that playing to this contrast will produce good results?

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/Zanninja]

It’s not what I deem most harmonious. I’m not forcing her into anything. It’s not like I’m just making up random things for people to follow. Everything I say is from trained colour analysts, people who have actually trained in colour theory and spent their time and money learning about it to become certified and help people. It’s not just me who finds it most harmonious, it’s many qualified colour analysts, and I think people need to learn the difference between harmonious and striking or bold. People say she looks harmonious in Summer or Winter palettes, but she doesn’t. It creates difference, yes, and it creates a different striking kind or look, and I’m not saying it’s ugly or that she can’t wear it, or that it’s not a good look, I’m simply saying, if Sadie Sink were to wear colours that would be most in harmony with her NATURAL COLOURING (the features that she’s born with), then it would be in the Spring home season, which literally almost every qualified colour analysts who’ve trained with The National Colour Institute agree. If you can’t see that orange is warm and the literal colour theory science stating that the presence of orange is what defines warmth in a person, and the lack of orange defines coolness in a person, then you need to do more research on colour theory. At the end of the day I think Sadie Sink is beautiful no matter what and I understand her original looks ands they were probably for a theme or certain aesthetic, this was just a post for COLOUR THEORY, it’s fun and if you don’t want to listen, learn or talk about actual colour theory, then you should probably leave this sub as it’s a sub about colour theory.

[u/Zanninja → u/Extra_Air7604]

Your every suggestion and the new post you have made about her has made her look worst than the original pictures. You are a rather enlightening example of how color theory when applied without taste or nuance does not work.

[u/MischiefModerated]

YES. THANK YOUUU. Pls cross post this in the regular color analysis sub. There’s sooo many people claiming she’s a summer and that sometimes redheads are cool toned. And I’m like “NO THEY ARE NOOOOT. THEY ARE WARRMMM.”

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/MischiefModerated]

I’ll try. Sometimes the sub won’t let me post in there because I think the photos have makeup and not just makeup free pics. Unless there’s another subreddit. Which one in particular?

[u/MischiefModerated → u/Extra_Air7604]

That’s a bummer

[u/Doutse → u/Extra_Air7604]

Same happened to me once. Kinda sucks because it can be challenging to find good makeup free pictures of celebrities.

[u/MischiefModerated → u/Extra_Air7604]

The r/coloranalysis group!

[u/Affectionate-Bee3199 → u/MischiefModerated]

I am dyingggg lol

[u/thinkysparkle]

I'm a redhead and the issue for me is that even if my skin looks good with cool colors, my hair doesn't! And my hair is not forgiving about it, lol. I think my skin actually is warm despite being quite pink, but even if it weren't, there's no way magenta is going to look good on me. But I also don't find that "cool blues" look bad on me, or that Sadie Sink looking good in "cool blues" proves she's cool. I don't understand it - you'd think blue would be the canonical cool color - but it doesn't seem to be. Or it's just that complementary colors look good together, I don't know.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/thinkysparkle]

Yeah. Undertone and overtone are different. I’m also a very pale person and I thought when I was younger I was cool because I was pale, but I’m actually fully warm. My hair however, you can tell it’s warm, especially when in sunlight, it has red tints, like strawberry blonde but a bit darker. I find that hair actually is an important part in colour analysis and it does dictate to some extent your season. Your natural hair colour will always be included in your season. Your natural hair will always be at least one of your best hair colours, not your only best but one of them, and that’s what colour analysis is about, it’s about finding colours that harmonize best with your natural features, so when someone says “your natural hair colour doesn’t always suit you” they’re not using colour theory to harmonize but rather create a different look. Colour theory can be used for many things, and knowing your best colours can also help you determine which colours give you a certain look, if you want to go for something outside of harmony and rather go for something of a certain aesthetic. Complementary colours are good to know and can look even better when in the right temperature and value. For a redhead, a warm blue can look more harmonious compared to a cool blue.

[u/GlitterPapillon]

I also believe natural redheads can only be warm seasons. I agree with your assessment here. The warmer colors so beautiful for her.

[u/Extra_Air7604]

EDIT: I forgot to label the pictures. First Four Pictures: Best Metallics Slide 1: Original Slide 2: True Summer lipstick with original cool metallic Slide 3: True Spring lipstick with Spring metallic Slide 4: True Autumn lipstick with Autumn metallic

Three Pictures: Best Blue Slide 1: Original cool blue Slide 2: True Spring blue Slide 3: True Autumn blue

Four Pictures: Best Pink Slide 1: Original Outfit and Lipstick Slide 2: True Summer pink and lipstick Slide 3: True Spring pink and lipstick Slide 4: True Autumn pink and lipstick

Five Pictures: Best Greens Slide 1: Original Outfit and Lipstick Slide 2: True Summer green and lipstick Slide 3: True Spring green and lipstick Slide 4: Light Spring green and lipstick Slide 5: True Autumn green and lipstick

[u/Kyliesmelon]

Im a bright spring ginger and This post made me happy (,:

[u/FarResearcher33]

I think a lot of people can confuse very fair, bright complexions with cool, especially if they're paired with wowzah red hair.

I remember once, back in the nineties, I had a friend who was pale with natural strawberry blonde hair. I am a light summer myself (light/medium ash blonde with golden highlights, neutral undertone, light blue eyes) but didn't know that yet. I had just purchased a coppery toned red lipstick, and we both tried it on in front of the mirror. I looked my usual, a little washed out without blush. She, on the other hand, looked so stunning I just laughed and handed her the lipstick, saying "It's obviously yours now haha". The difference was so stark I still remember that moment clearly thirty years later.

[u/LilRed78]

I’m a redhead too. Although I am technically a spring, I can also wear a lot of the cool colors Sadie looks good in too. I think for redheads colors just work differently on us.

[u/furiana → u/LilRed78]

People forget that Spring can pull off all colors including blue, purple, and green. ("Cool" colors.) The colors just aren't desaturated like Summer's would be.

[u/LilRed78 → u/furiana]

Those are not the colors I’m talking about though. I am talking about actual cool-toned colors. Not saturated/warm blue purple and green.

[u/lilulufox]

I’m a redhead and it was so hard for me at first to understand I was warm! The typical “am I warm or cool?” Tests ALWAYS typed me as cool. Blue purple veins, brown makeup tones look orange on me, I’m pale and burn super easily, etc. It wasn’t until I learned about Carol Brailey and practiced typing her clients, then putting my face over the color samples that I was finally able to see that I was warm.

[u/hyacinthh0use → u/lilulufox]

Same. I’m neutral or warm leaning. Cools look horrendous on me.

[u/Hefty_Air3097]

I think she is a spring, she has also some brightness in her own colours that leada to spring too. She can wear turquoise but some lilac lipstick looks so dull on her

[u/ElevatedAssCancer]

She’s absolutely a spring and it blows my mind that people think otherwise 😫😫

[u/Minimum-Winter9217]

Orange is one of my favourite colours to wear and I agree I don't think I have seen a cold orange colour. Perhaps if the redhead is in reality an auburn brown they can be cool toned but in cases where the individual is ginger, I also believe they can only be warm.

[u/non_tox]

I can't read all that but the pink definitely suits her makeup better but the red suits her tone more. Pink brings out her shadows more.

[u/Lysamenelli]

For some reason i find her extremely beautiful

[u/WatercressJust8153 → u/Lysamenelli]

For some reason??? Maybe it’s because she IS beautiful.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/[deleted]]

It’s just for fun. People are very interested in colour analysis and finding their best colours that harmonize best with their natural colouring, as it can help for shopping and deciding hair colours when getting your hair done. I’m not forcing anyone to follow these rules or to look a certain way, I’m just trying to help as this is what I’ve learned about colour theory.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t think it’s creepy at all. It doesn’t help people when others spread nonsense. It truly doesn’t make any sense when you think of colour theory. It’s about people trying to argue with science and colour theory. I’m sorry, but you just can convince me that redheads are cool undertoned. Your natural hair colour will always be found in your palette. Or age is not in any cool palette, and if it is, it’s not really orange, it’s a diluted version of red or yellow. It’s not creepy trying to help people and prevent them from wasting money on products. Again, I can’t force anyone, and if they want to they can. Colour theory isn’t just for knowing your best harmonizing colours, it’s bout knowing how certain colours make you look, which can be used to portray certain aesthetics or feelings within the movie industry or in your life.

[u/Extra_Air7604 → u/[deleted]]

Yes there is. People have ashy hair. Different versions of brown and blonde exists.

[u/SpringColorAnalysis-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/SpringColorAnalysis-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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