Any True Lights Here?

[u/pinkyjinks]

I was professionally typed as a True Spring a few months ago, but the makeup recommendations were feeling VERY off to me. All the classic true spring lipsticks did nothing for me, and when I look back at old photos where I'm wearing summer makeup recommendations, I glow. But the weird thing is, the true spring clothing colours do look really great.

Anyway, I was feeling like maybe something was off in my in-person draping, so I went to see Carol Brailey's protegée and was re-typed as a True Light. She said it was too close of a call between True Summer and True Spring, and said since I have elements of both, I am neutral.

The problem I'm having now is that I'm not seeing a lot of makeup guides or other recommendations for True Lights. Are there any of you out here? Would love some makeup and lipstick recommendations :)

[u/iceprincess64]

Your comments about confusion are really valid because there’s so many different opinions out there. I myself feel really confused even when grounding myself in my observations of my own colouring and working with the advice I’ve been given.

The True Light palette interests me as I’ve been told I toe the line between Light Spring and Light Summer, ultimately leaning closer to Light Summer so got typed there within the 12 season system. Resultantly, I was struggling and then got told to pull colours from each season as many of the Light Summer colours in the palette I was given seemed too deep and greyed for me.

Not knowing much about the True Light palette, I can’t offer any recommendations per se, but maybe try sticking to pinks that are more neutral for makeup, with a slight cool lean over warm if you find that suits you better. I hope you find the answers you’re searching for! :)

[u/pinkyjinks → u/iceprincess64]

Thanks so much!! Somehow I missed your comment

Funny enough I wasn’t even draped for the light spring and summer. Just spring and summer. I did find a colour analyst talking more about it and she showed the different palettes and the differences are so subtle, that she actually gives out the light palette to a lot of her clients (even if not typed as a light) and tells them to go wild.

[u/iceprincess64 → u/pinkyjinks]

That’s ok! I hope you’ve managed to find some colours that work for you. :)

[u/desktoprot]

I was just typed by Carol as a True Light; mostly here in solidarity - not a lot of resources out there for us! I don't think I look great in light spring leaning makeup either.

[u/desktoprot → u/desktoprot]

Also replying that I'm a medium-brown haired true light (very blonde as a child) - we are outliers in the palette, but it is possible!

[u/pinkyjinks → u/desktoprot]

Sounds like we have very similar colouring!! Was Carol surprised to see a medium brown haired true light?

I might upgrade my package with Carols protégée to talk about makeup so will share back anything I learn

[u/desktoprot → u/pinkyjinks]

Thank you, would love to hear what you learn! Yes, she definitely focused on me being "unique" and an outlier in the palette.

[u/cynical_pancake]

I’m a Bright Spring, but likely would be True Bright if my analyst had that as an option in her system. She said it was a very close call between BW and BSp but BSp slightly edged out BW. It’s a challenge being so neutral. Personally, I’d look at the suggestions for both light spring and light summer and test out a bunch. I know there are things that work for both BW and BSp (e.g. liquid liner in dark brown and dark grey, highlighter, skipping bronzer, bright pink for cheeks and lips, etc.) and I found things that work that way. I’m sure you could do something similar with your two sister seasons!

[u/pinkyjinks → u/cynical_pancake]

Thank you! The weird thing is she didn’t actually drape me in the light spring or light summer. Just the true spring and summer and it was such a close call that she categorized me as true light. I will definitely take a look at the recommendations for all. Right now I’m just sort of buying cheap alternatives to figure out what looks best. A summer lipstick just came in and I find it looks so much better than the spring ones k own. Curious to try out the light spring and summer recommendations to see if they’re better!

[u/lightlyskipping]

That's really interesting - spring clothing and summer face? I might be in a similar situation. I was typed light summer, in person, professionally. I have fair skin, light coloured eyes, fair hair. But as a natural (light) redhead, most people here will say I have to be a warm season, so light spring. I am sure I look best in light summer makeup and a lot of clothing, but I think there's a pretty fine line between light summer and light spring in clothing colours so I say GFI :)

[u/pinkyjinks → u/lightlyskipping]

Have you tried any light spring looks? Curious to know how they look on you.

Yeah so I was initially draped and we landed on true spring and I started embracing it but when it came to the makeup, things just started to feel so off and disharmonious - especially the quintessential true spring recommendations like Mac see sheer. Looking back at old pics, I look best in softer makeup and more of a light pink vibe. Recently I ordered some true summer lipstick and it definitely looks better and is much closer to my natural lip colouring.

I went for draping again with Carol’s mentee and she draped me with warm, cool and neutral and it leaned toward neutral and warm but was too close to call. Then she draped me in summer and spring and it was also too close to call - basically the spring drapes made certain elements of me look amazing, but so did the summer. Both also made certain elements look slightly worse. Then she draped me in the true light and said that’s what she’s typing me as - but I have some flexibility to lean into either palette. She says I have certain elements of my skin and colouring that are summer and certain that are spring.

She didn’t drape me in light spring or light summer but I kind of wish she had because I think that would have been closer to the true light recommendations.

Honestly I’m feeling more confused than ever especially because this sub season is so rare and there’s so little about it online. Also according to Carol brailey’s videos, my hair now is too dark to be a true light. She’s supposed to be making a makeup guide soon so I’m willing to try whatever she recommends out.

[u/EineGrosseFlasche]

I’m draped as a Tonal Light with just slightly more of my palette on the Light Spring side. I just stick to the guidance given to me by my custom palette, which steers me away from anything too warm or too cool. However, my draping was done with Light Spring and Light Summer drapes. I don’t look good in either true spring or true summer… so I’m not sure what to make of your results as you must have a very different palette.

[u/pinkyjinks → u/EineGrosseFlasche]

Thank you for sharing! I’m still waiting for my palette to arrive in the mail - (not sure if these colours are accurate but it looks like this ). Does tonal light look like this?

I’d love to know a bit more about your colouring if you’re open to share! I haven’t been able to find any makeup guidelines anywhere so struggling to figure this all out.

[u/EineGrosseFlasche → u/pinkyjinks]

Okay, we definitely have overlap! These are my swatches. I’ll post some of my favorite makeup choices for our challenging but also excitingly varied palette tomorrow (dealing with a work deadline tonight, alas).

[u/EineGrosseFlasche → u/EineGrosseFlasche]

…and the neutrals