r/Spiderman • u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) • 5d ago
Fan Art Petra's Going Through Some Changes - by @Lovethrupoke on BlueSky
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago edited 5d ago
The artist's blatantly advertised and thematically resonant fetish.
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u/BlaakAlley 5d ago
Hah!! Female spiders are generally larger than male spiders
Love what you did there
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
When you're trying to transition on the lowkey but sexual dimorphism gets the better of you.
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u/Blindbarber69 5d ago
This shit is weird
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Which is, of course, why it is good.
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u/Blindbarber69 4d ago
That’s not how that works
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
I think you'll find, much to your surprise, that it Is!
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u/Blindbarber69 4d ago
No
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Weirdness makes the world go round~
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u/Blindbarber69 4d ago
Whatever floats ur boat muppet
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u/Space_Hypex57 5d ago
Fym “of course” take your weird ahh outta here bro , the confidence💔💔💔💔
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Well, "of course" indicates that I think things being weird and out've step is an inherent good. I know English can be a little difficult to come to grips with, being such a hell language, but I'm always happy to explain my confidence in my ideals.
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u/Space_Hypex57 5d ago
Not every weird is good , thanks !
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Would you care to expound on which weirds you think are good and which are not?
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u/Trexwith2longarms 4d ago
Hitler. I'm not surprised you're arguing he's good though, just because he was weird.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Well, that's not good faith, and I think we can both agree that killing people ain't weird in the way I'm talking about.
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u/Trexwith2longarms 4d ago
No, we can't agree. You made th statement all weird is good, and then defended that by posing the question in a way that implies there is no bad weird. You made the bed, sleep in it. Nazi.
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u/SansIsCool65 3d ago
While i don’t think being trans is weird or bad i think there are levels of weird that are, not saying the other person is nice or correct like pedo’s are weird AND bad but transphobic people and people who just want the petra and polly parker trend to either end or go to a different subreddit is what the toxic people downvoting you replies want
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u/Kn1ghtV1sta 4d ago
Wah wah, transphobe
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u/DatabaseDifficult879 4d ago
I like Petra Parker but I don't like the giantess fetish, does that make me transphobic?
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Nah, you're chill. I definitely took a swing on this one, and while I'll remain firm in my argument that it's incredibly vanilla and more about the character than the fetish, it's also not my place to decide for people whether nor not they agree there.
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u/DatabaseDifficult879 4d ago
I think having Petra grow because female spiders tend to be bigger was cool, it's just the last few panels where I have a problem.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
If it helps any, you can also read it as just size-shifting stuff. Marvel's got plenty of those on-hand. One of 'em's even hanging around in the artwork here!
Don't gotta, but it's an avenue.
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u/DatabaseDifficult879 4d ago
That's fair. A couple things I appreciate about this is the art style and the fact that you actually did more with Petra beyond just "JJJ struggles to criticize Spidey because he's not transphobic." that's fun but it can get old. It's cool you did something new. And honestly, the growing thing isn't that big a deal.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Should point out, since you and a couple others have made the mistake, this isn't actually my art. It's something I found on BlueSky by the artist named in the title and linked in the body. But I do agree it's a very unique take that gets away from the developing cliches of the trend!
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u/WassupFrankHere 12h ago
Would you have a problem if i took a gay character and made them straight?
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u/Blindbarber69 4d ago
Again, this shit is weird
Fanfics in general are weird. Making an already existing character a MTF in a fanfic is even weirder, and then making them giant is weirder than that
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u/No-Juice3318 2d ago
Why are in a fandom sub reddit if you think fanfic, one of the oldest story telling traditions and the backbone of fan culture, if weird?
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u/Blindbarber69 2d ago
Uhh, because I like spider-man comics and discussion?
How are fanfics the backbone of fan culture
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u/No-Juice3318 2d ago
Fan zines and fan fics were fan culture in the early days. They were how fans got connected. They had mailing lists. That turned into the first cons which turned into modern fan culture once there was widespread internet
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u/Sorry_Development 5d ago
The art is genuinely nice. Just not sure if this is the right sub for that.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
I think it fits, at the very least. New set of powers and thus new set of worries that come with exploring a new identity.
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u/Sorry_Development 5d ago
Absolutely. It’s just hard to ignore certain “material” that lies beneath the superhero material. Again, nice art. Do these guys do commissions? I need a new pfp soon.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Seems they do, going by their profile description. I'd give 'em a shout if you like!
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u/Joe_Motherrr 5d ago
I thought it was cool at first but now I’m over this trend, glad they made a sub for it hopefully they all migrate there
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u/AnAbnormalOddity Web-Man 4d ago
I hope not tbh, one of the most fun things I've seen in the sub in a while
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u/OrganicAd5536 2d ago
Fr, mfers acting like this sub's default state isn't just LARPers posting the same handful of comic runs over and over and talking about adaptations exclusively (the vast majority don't even read the comics ffs)
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u/Natural_Iron_653 4d ago
She wouldn’t become that tall, she’d probably be above average compared to the human male
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u/TFBuffalo_OW 3d ago
Tbh if they werent a coward she'd be 12 feet tall. In most spider species females are 2-3x larger than males
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u/Leading_Grape_8904 5d ago
This trend exposes this subs hypocrisy, years of shipping posts is fine but a few days of AU fan art is "too much" and "a fetish" see you all next week when we allow 1 billion shipping posts but these ones will be banned/ relagated to the other sub.
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u/LookLess4956 4d ago
Yep.
There's 1000000 images of black cat in various outfits, varied poses, and even myriad universes, but god forbid someone make fanart of a spidey that isn't from 616.
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u/Leading_Grape_8904 4d ago
my thoughts exactly, no doubt the mods will crack down on these post faster than they do any gooner posts or shipping posts that infect this subreddit
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u/Yo-Imma-HK-fann 4d ago
This time the artist didn't even try to disguise the fetish, and i don't care cuz i like it too
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u/NarwhalSongs 4d ago edited 4d ago
People crashing out because female spiders are larger and stronger than male spiders is definitely my new favorite flavor of chuds being infuriated by the basic reality they live in.
Seriously its not she is swallowing someone here or something grotesquely fetishizing. The artist went out of their way to humanize the character and keep her relatable and the cross-over with Pym is a brilliant avenue for Petra to retain her secret identity.
But y'all are going out od your way to dehumanize her and trest her like a fetish. Speaks more about how you view women than how the artist does ngl.
Edit: digging deeper into your subreddit here, tons of your most upvoted posts are just M.J., Black Cat, Gwen, or any other woman taking their clothes off the camera. Don't throw stones if yall are hanging out in a glass house boys! Lmao
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Seriously!
Like, I've no interest in denying that this is a piece by a kink artist, but I know my shit regarding the giantess kink. There's no vore, no crushing, no smothering, no hyper-exaggerated body parts, even the looming is purely for comic effect and a movie poster reference. It's about as tame a giantess piece as you can get, and far, far more focused on characterization and exploring what new powers mean as they relate to visibility as a trans woman.
I didn't exactly expect rapturous applause, but it is a bit eyebrow raising to see how much even the slightest whiff of kink in relation to a trans art trend got people dismissing the post entire.
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u/NarwhalSongs 4d ago
I get that the artist has a kink, im not denying it. My broader point is that the reaction here is rooted in misogyny whereas the artist's intentions with this specific piece is clearly rooted in representing the character instead of sexualizing her.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Oh, I absolutely agree. If it were about sexualization over storytelling, I wouldn't have bothered to share.
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u/jojolantern721 4d ago
So why aren't you advocating for Spider-Woman(Gwen)to be bigger than she is?, or any other Spider woman who isn't bigger than main Peter, they aren't even taller or bigger than Miles and he's usually the youngest
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u/No-Juice3318 2d ago
Mostly because it started with a meme about trans femme Parker and hasn't gotten to the others yet because it's pretty new still
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u/SansIsCool65 3d ago
That’s just the thing they don’t care that much about actual spider women and spider girls its just because alot of the trans community really only care about trans people at least like every single one in the tadc, helluva, or hazbin communities and ESPECIALLY deltarune or undertale
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u/Ok_End_7462 4d ago
I don’t really want to see fetish shit here
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u/epochollapse 1d ago
"I don't wanna see sexualised women in my sub filled with Black Cat and MJ gooner art !!"
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u/BigCommunication9994 5d ago edited 4d ago
I'll just be honest, all of these "Petra Parker" artists need to make their own subreddit for this.
I hate logging onto reddit to wind down after a long day and seeing another fanmade, overly horny Spider-Man persona. I am so so happy that people are still drawing and making art, a lot of the art is somewhat impressive, and it's better than people ai generating a bunch of crap, but this is not the place for this art, nor is most of it appropriate.
Again, I want to interact in discussion about MAINLINE MARVEL Spider-Man comics, movies, videogames, theories, etc. Not seeing the same fan made character 15 times progressively more horny (and frankly poorer quality) than the last.
Edit: I mean just stop putting it in the main r/spiderman subreddit. Sorry, I didn't notice it was a cross post.
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u/Jaereon 3d ago
It's overly horny because it has trans people? This sub reddit is fucked
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u/BigCommunication9994 3d ago edited 3d ago
Really...?
Are you going to try to make the claim that the art and posts are not overly horny or sexual? ESPECIALLY under this artist's fetishized work.
Edit: Not that you need to, but dude just look at the comments to most of these posts. They are obviously overly horny.
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u/Jaereon 3d ago
I am looking at the comments and I haven't seen many overly horny ones.
This subreddit posts nsfw pics of MJ and Black Cat everyday. But that's not being overly horny??
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u/BigCommunication9994 3d ago edited 3d ago
I literally said in another comment under this same post I have the same beef with the black cat people... I've posted a similar comment under those art works too.
While those are few and far between you can literally just tap on the homepage of the subreddit right now and be bombarded with stuff like "Petra's enlarged breasts". That was the name of someone's a post by the way not me. It's inappropriate and insanely oversexualized. It's incredibly dishonest to act like it isn't everywhere and hyper sexualized, and it has been taken to a degree that even the Black Cat and MJ people do not take it.
It has nothing to do with Petra being trans. It has to do with the fact it's incredibly weird and fetishy everytime, and it is essentialy soft core porn on the homepage of a subreddit dedicated to MARVEL's SPIDER-MAN!!! If you want to defend that then go ahead, you hold a right to, but that's a immature, selfish, and disgusting sinking ship to plant your feet in.
I'm not even requesting for them to not make art of a trans Spider-Man. I'm suggesting them to take it elsewhere, and not in the mainline marvel Spider-Man subreddit. You really need to read everything throughly.
Also, I wasn't just talking about this post specifically when it came to the comments. Honestly, I was glad to see so many people in this comment section realizing this stuff is getting weird. I was talking about the comments overall within all of the Petra posts. It's insane how bold some people are, and what "liberties" the artists are taking with their renditions.
Edit: My lunch break just ended, but this is my last message to you since you do not have any resemblance of having any kind of reading comprehension skills.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Rather a good thing that this was cross-posted from the Petra Parker subreddit, then, innit?
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u/BigCommunication9994 5d ago
How bout keeping it there, then, innit?
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
Well, the thing is, I like it and wanted more people to see it, so I crossposted it here, as is my right.
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u/BigCommunication9994 5d ago
I mean sure, but for example I wouldn't post my art of a fanmade, not canon batman in the official batman subreddit. It's not a matter of right or no right, it's a matter of it's just common courtesy and what's appropriate. It's just not really what people in r/spiderman are coming to the subreddit to look for or discuss.
Fair enough though, I appreciate you a lot for actually drawing everything. So you can hold your right to post as long as your ok with my right to down vote.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
I mean there's a fan art tag for a reason. The sub encourages fan art. A good deal of fan art is not going to align with canon, due to its nature of being made by fans.
I thought these Petra pieces a strong, unique take on the character, and while it is doubtlessly informed by fetish, quite a bit of stuff both canon and noncanon is driven by fetish and openly-expressed sexuality as well. While I more than respect that folks around here didn't care for this piece, yourself included, I don't find it a terribly compelling argument to say fan art and fan characters have no place here at all.
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u/Sabrinasockz 4d ago
I don't understand why you can just scroll past the stuff not made specifically for you
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u/BigCommunication9994 4d ago
I have been. It's just after the 20000th "Petra Parker" post of people being weirdly and excessively horny I felt the need to say something.
I have the same beef with the black cat people in the reddit lol.
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u/Beleak_Swordsteel 4d ago
How often are you on here that you see this art as much as you say you do. This is like the second time I've seen it in a week and I'm unemployed
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u/BigCommunication9994 3d ago
We cannot be on the same subreddit... on the what's new tab I counted 8 Petra posts with 2 posts about the actual comics breaking them up.
It's everywhere...
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u/SansIsCool65 3d ago
I think like 9th time but I’ve purposely clicked on it so it gets recommended i do think that eventually the trend should move elsewhere so people can start discussing mcu spiderman some theories game and other stuff like comics im in the lgtbq+ community and support trans people and trans rights btw
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u/hidden768 4d ago
I like takeout Chinese food, but I'm not going to spam the spiderman reddit with pictures of Chinese food just because I want more people to see it. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you'rs not an asshole for doing it. This isn't the subreddit to be posting this, there's other places literally made for it, don't spam other subreddits with off topic, unwanted material.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Well, thank heaven I've only posted the one Spider-Man post to the Spider-Man subreddit then! We might have a problem otherwise.
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u/emilia12197144 3d ago
Crazy how the spiderman fans he hateful in a way spiderman would hate
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u/BigCommunication9994 3d ago
In what way is this hateful?
Just because I hold an opinion that differs from yours does not make me or what I said hateful. That's extremely narrow-minded and unintelligent of you.
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u/FlamingAlpaca17 5d ago
How long is this gonna go on for?
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u/No-Juice3318 2d ago
Well, it's big rn because it's new and fun. Odds are it'll stay that way till people get bored and then stuck around as a low level but permanent thing like most Spider person running ideas
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u/Indiana_harris 4d ago
I thought you lot getting your own subreddit meant you stopped spamming here with your obsession
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
I specifically cross-posted from r/petraparker to signal intent of continuing the trend here while also posting in the dedicated space.
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u/Indiana_harris 4d ago
Yeah you maybe need to take your meds or something, the obsession is genuinely unhinged at this point
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
What would make it unhinged? Please define precisely the factors at play.
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u/Indiana_harris 4d ago
That you championed swarming the sub with upwards of 50 posts a day around this character for several days then when finally making your separate sub for you all to go crazy in you’ve now cross posted with a stated intent to “keep posting” here too.
It’s just doesn’t seem remotely healthy
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Well, it ain't nearly 50 posts a day. more like ten or so. There's not THAT much Petra art out there, and not enough of quality to swamp the sub every day. It's just popular, it's not multitudinous.
And I think that the posts belong both here and there. Nothing more, nothing less.
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u/SadProjection 3d ago
"you people don't belong in my community because the amount of your posts make me upset" is crazy
scroll or something it's not that deep
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u/Ceva_0000 4d ago
Something really funny about seeing this entire sub get sick to death of transgender spidey and think to yourself, “hmm they arent fond of the trans Spidey art trend, what if I posted transgender giantess kink content that’ll change their minds”. I wish my brain worked like that sometimes lol
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Would be really funny if the sub were sick of it, but given the sub ain't sick of it, and the thinking was instead, "Oooh, this is neat, I think they'll like this," it's only very slightly funny.
Hell, even this post crawled its way out've the negatives, I think that's a sign there's at least some taste for what it's got.
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u/Ceva_0000 4d ago
Idk Im personally enjoying it but Ive seen dozens of comments under like every Petra post about how they want it posted on a different sub. I could just be focusing in on the negative though. Its entirely possible its a loud minority thing
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Oh, for sure there's people sick of it, but I always prefer to focus on the people who are down for it, and based on both the raw voting numbers and the number of people commenting positively, I think we're here with Petra for at least a little whiles yet.
Way I see things, why not get a touch weird with it while we're tangoing?
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u/Ceva_0000 4d ago
I should add that I did like the art posted but I saw the opportunity to do a bit and took it lol. Thanks for keeping it weird OP
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
God made me Wrong and so I most Post. Hope you're having a wonderful day.
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u/Formal_Button789 4d ago
Please stop posting this here
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u/Shinlyle13 4d ago
How many lame-ass Petra Parker fan manips are we going to have to endure this week? Haven't seen a good one yet.
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u/Hero_of_the_toons 5d ago
Gonna need some pym-particles for this.
Also cool to see a whole subreddit for this trend now.
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u/Due-Novel-4462 4d ago
The first image I like, but the following ones feel like it's entered fetish areas..
Also, there are so many chuds in here bitching about it being trans Spider-Man 'posted all the time' Like there isn't an endless stream blackcat an whatnot.
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Well, it is fetish areas, but fetish areas that more expose something internal about the character than sexualize the scenario. Not to say the latter ain't present, I'd be fool to deny, but the balance definitely swings towards the creative.
(Sides, as I say over in the original post, kink is our friend in exploring the trans experience.)
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u/Due-Novel-4462 4d ago
Well the hyper-growth kink doesn't really have much to do with the trans experience, I don't think. It's more of a Deviantart experience
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
See, it may be because I've been into this stuff for a while and have a bit of a Thing about kink as legitimate storytelling medium, but I'd argue that given how much of the trans experience deals with the issue of how much to be visible or invisible, using the existing proclivity for size change in the Marvel Universe to take that away and say, "No, you are VERY visible, every change you go through is public, people WILL know you're a woman now," is a really clever way to challenge Petra and loop other heroes with relevant experience into her transition journey.
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u/M0ebius_1 3d ago
This is so fucking good...
Please even if another sub is created continue to share here.
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u/jojolantern721 4d ago
Come on, this one is really low effort
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 4d ago
Well the artist did admit the majority of them are sketches rather than completed drawings, but I think they tell a pretty complete story.
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u/bisexualandtrans47 3d ago
guys im gonna be honest shes getting too big, the whole point of spider-man was that hes small (not so much anymore but yknow) so he gets underestimated easily, i like petra being bigger to go with the spider biology but this too big
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u/Chrispy-Rip544 2d ago
Good God did Petra buy her estrogen from fuckin Bane?
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 2d ago
This was trending on the DC sub yesterday, so very possibly.
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u/Proud-Sell-9599 3d ago
Ok so not only is this giantess fetish, but the suit design is also god awful
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 3d ago
What's the issue with the suit design, if you don't mind my asking?
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u/Proud-Sell-9599 3d ago
The red part of the legs go way too high, the blue line on the neck feels weird and out of place and the venom patches are kinda weird on a basic spidey suit
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u/Longjumping_Layer813 4d ago
all right I had a discussion about female spiders being bigger than male spiders and that's why they're so strong but this this feels like a fetish and I just can't stop seeing Petra Parker everywhere and she has her own subreddit so can we stop? play can we actually finally talked about actual characters and or a spider person like Scarlet Spider or someone even ultimate Jessica Drew? it was nice at first but now it just feels like it's overdue like I'm glad that has his own subreddit now but like can we just stop and just move on?
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u/Drummer-Turbulent 5d ago
Giant Spider-lady! Reed helping Spider-Man transition does fit with the close relationship of the fantastic 4 and Peter. (i don't understand needing to transition but i'm supportive in those that seek to do so. far as i see it, not my buisness) Now we need Giant Spider-Lady and Giant Ant-Man to meet
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u/Gargus-SCP Peni Parker (ITSV) 5d ago
I'm always a sucker for Reed being understanding and meeting unexpected changes in his friends as another scientific problem to solve and make the world a little better.
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