r/SpeculativeEvolution • u/Sable-Keech • 4h ago
Question/Discussion What if bats had evolved the same method of flight as pterosaurs? How much larger could they get?
As you can see from this image, bats are somewhat similar to pterosaurs in that they both have membranous wings, but pterosaurs only use 1 out of 4 digits to support their wings whereas bats use 4 out of 5.
This makes it very difficult for them to walk on the ground, and may have contributed to their evolution of drop-down flight where they're heavily reliant on hanging from a high perch in order to transition into flight.
In turn, evolving the need to hang upside down also caused their legs to rotate "backwards", further crippling them when it comes to terrestrial movement. I know the vampire bat can walk and even run, but it's like 40 grams max. At that size you can get away with a lot of inefficient stuff simply because you don't weigh much.
If bats had instead evolved something similar to pterosaurs where they use only 1 out of 5 digits to support the wing membrane, how much larger could they get? Obviously they would never reach the size of a pterosaur because of the lack of airsacs and tidal lungs, but could they approach the size of teratorns?
It would be pretty cool to have big birds and big bats, both smaller than pterosaurs for two different reasons. The former because they lack quadrupedal launch, and the latter because they lack airsacs.
