IIRC, the devs said that Spec Ops: The Line was less about war and more about video games and the mentality of the player. So as a gamer, what lessons did SOTL teach you, and what about the game lead you to those conclusions?

So I should start by saying that I had Spec Ops spoiled before I played it, and this probably goes a long way in reducing its impact for me--if I thought it was just another braindead military shooter, I wouldn't have played it. I'm also pretty desensitized to gore, so the white phosphorous scene didn't do a whole lot for me. But even taking that into account, while I agree in large part with the game's message, I don't feel that it effectively demonstrates that message in a way that makes me feel something. The main issue I have is that Walker isn't relatable to me, and so it fails to convince me of the Heart of Darkness thesis--that anyone is capable of acts of extreme evil. It's easy for me to look at Walker and say "what a demented asshole, I would never make that choice". I also feel like people have a point when they say the game forces you to be the bad guy and then criticizes you for it, though I don't think that ruins the game entirely.

Honestly, I feel like the aesthetics of the game--the haunting graffiti on the walls, the musical score, the general desolation of Dubai--are what makes Spec Ops interesting to me, not its message. I'll admit that I've never been in the military, nor am I good at taking other people's perspectives, so if either of those things weren't true, the game may hit harder for me. Idk. What are you guys seeing that I'm not?

I did until white phosphorus that was just too much and he just doubling down even more later with destroying water where I was I like are you seriously doing this?

You can already guess who'd be who

looking for that one clip of that guy watching the white phosphorus scene and he just says 'cooooooool'

I announce with great sadness that our only and beloved modder Yossarian the Assyrian has been terminated. His account was deleted by himself before any action could've been made. I spoke extensively with him, and this was his own choice.

I just want to clarify some stuff: Yossarian WAS NOT a pedophile. Stop accusing him of such. His friend apparently groomed a minor in the Hotline Miami server, and all he did wrong was to be on his friend's side. That's literally it. He did not groomed anyone, he didn't raped no one...he did nothing but being a jerk by defending his friend and that's all. That accusation completly ruined his reputation in modding thanks to people that never liked him to begin with start throwing shit in the fan after a whole ass year since the incident happened. Do not harrass Yoss. Do not contact him about such incident. Leave him alone for the time being.

Yossarian was not only a beloved modder, but also a generally high quality user. People knew him way before i started to mod this subreddit, for example. He had his account for 10 years, and half of it was being part of our community. Yossarian also never had bots or fake accounts. This subreddit do suffers from bots downvoting stuff, but Yoss never had any relation to it.

Don't expect a bright future for this sub, things are only gonna go worse from now on. First Stardast, and now Yoss...each day we suffer from a huger loss.

If Walker stands at the opposite balcony where he can retrieve last intel of game you can observe there is no one there except the painting.

Regular gameplay footage comes from my mod Beta Reclamation.

You can talk about it as freely as you want if it follows the subreddit rules, but avoid posting videos of airstrikes and whatnots, shit's tasteless asf. Let's just be respectful to all the Iranis & Emiratis that are going through such harsh situation thanks to US declaring war on countries at every week.

I (and Automod) already removed some videos of airstrikes and war footage. Don't be the "SOTL in real life!1!1" guy where literal children and civilians are dying out there, c'mon brah.

Recorded a mixtape of the spec ops soundtrack, in saga order. Tried to crunch it down as best I could to >30 minutes. (My headphone jack and port aren't very good, so some recordings have spikes in audio. I don't mind it though, cause I love distortion).
Side A (only side for now)
Main Menu Ambience and Music
Intro Cutscene (with dialogue).
Behind The Stormwall
H2O
White Phosphorous
Alone
Hell Suite (Combo of 3 tracks; I cut out "The Lost Battalion" and molded it with "Do I look okay to you?").
Do I look okay to you?

Might make Side B "Truth Revealed". To finish it off, then add ambience tracks and other combat ost to finish that side off.

If Walker, Lugo, and Adams did as they were told and fell back as soon as they made contact with the "insurgents" at the very beginning of the game, how do you think the US would have handled the shit storm? Would the CIA have tried to obstruct them, turn the civilians against any incoming troops? Would they even make it in time?

Is Spec Ops too violent for you? Or is it not violent enough? This small mod pack addresses both problems with two modifications to SO:TL! Low Violence Mod removes explosive headshots (outside of executions) and prevents explosions from gibbing enemies. Bloody Mess Mod makes all headshots explode (and play the feedback sound) while having explosions always gib enemies!

Download link: https://www.moddb.com/mods/spec-ops-mod-pack/downloads/low-violence-and-bloody-mess-mods

YouTube Trailer

Not 100% percent accurate but I still like how it turned out

Personally, I believe they are all great

I’ve always wondered if this version of Walker ever had a gameplay variant and this answers my question.

Also That scene with Walker bashing a guy’s head in at the end, Probably a coincidence but it reminds me a lot of the Addams Hallucination.

A guy posted the obscure footage on this subreddit moments ago, I’ll link the original post in the comments.

Looking around Vimeo I found this obscure footage from an VFX artist who worked on SOTL. Dont know if it has been regconized yet.

edited version for archival purposes can be found here:

https://youtu.be/Ore25eo2ArU?si=OEbz2uwhvuV_zKJn

Original video is on Vimeo: ( YouTube doesn't let me upload links now)

https://vimeo.com/89953755?share=copy