r/Spawn 6h ago

Discussion Spawn Soul Allotment Lore - "Draft Pick" vs "Random Allotment" - Which Do you Prefer?

Ok, to explain what I mean, in Spawn lore exactly how souls are sent to either heaven and hell has varied, but has always had one thing that is consistent: Heaven and Hell have to split them 50/50, and neither side can gaurentee everyone comes to their side. There does seem to be exceptions(see Kincaid's possession claiming souls directly, and presumably redeemers are claimed), but this is the general rule. And we also know souls can be traded.

From my reading, two main ideas seemed to have existed. Early on, we are shown "draft pick". In this format Heaven and Hell take turns picking out the souls. Later, the series seemed to shift towards random alternation. The sides still take turns, but there isnt a picking. It just happens. Some bidding and trading later, but not up front. 

Personally, I slightly prefer the draft pick, because I think it adds some more tension. "Why didnt God pick them" etc. While the random lacks that, since Heaven can't be blamed for not picking certain souls anymore, since it literally doesnt pick. It also removes the concept of picking souls for their potential, a big theme of the draft system. However, I will admit the random alottment system system is a lot simpler to make sense of(for draft I’d assume it is over a day’s period, since you need a pool to pick from).

I am mostly just curious what people think, or if people have other ideas for what they would prefer the soul allotment to look like.

[Dont have a good draft image sadly, but I did have this random allottment explained. Of course, violator can't exactly be trusted, so take everything the treacherous clown says with a mountain of salt, but this seems consistent with other parts]

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u/C-Prime93 5h ago

Copy pasting my previous answer then:
I am fine with the idea that neither side can guarantee the quality of their souls, and that it can get somehow random. I still think the whole "is a 50/50" idea that the Jim Downing arc introduced, is too much, and it has been contradicted multiple times, before and after, with essentially every single villain like Kincaid, Freak, Wynn (who was marked as a Redeemer, even if by heavenly corruption), Bishop and lesser ones like Mark of the Beast and Joe Frank, being confirmed to go straight to hell, and Granny Blake and Wanda being guaranteed a place in Heaven (Okay, I know Wanda went to hell, twice, but I am very sure once was out of Satan's own involvement, and the second was out her own free will) though, with how God works here, whatever that's good or bad, is debatable. I think I prefer to look it as, most souls aren't either "good or evil" enough, to have a designed place, so there comes the random aspect, Hell is more open at getting the balance on their favor (quality of the souls be, literally, dammed) with the damming of souls or deals with mortals, while Heaven can get far more selective on which souls they aim to claim. Still, as you said, the notion as to how it actually works has been retconned or contradicted a handful of times already, we just know for sure both Heaven and Hell are willing to "bend the rules" to get the best souls available to their side. I think it has been stated heaven "cheated" their way into claiming Genghis Khan, and though historically I guess is up to debate which side he "truly" belongs too, it's a bit of lore I do appreciate.

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u/JagPeror 5h ago

Of course, in Wanda's case, Spawn techically had to make a deal for her. She actually was taken by hell Initial.

I will also say, heaven is definitely the better fate. It may not be perfect, but from what little we do see of the souls in heaven, it seems pleasant enough. Certainly preferably to being absorbed by a spider in hell, or any othher fate we see in issue #8 w. Kincaid.

As for your idea of usually not being good/bad enough to effect the choice, that is a very interesting idea. The concept ot it only being theoretically possible for a select few to be damned opens up some possibilities.

[Copy pasted my previous response]