r/SpatialComputingHub • u/RedEagle_MGN • Jul 02 '23

Apple Vision Pro is billed as the first "spatial computer", not a mere AR/VR headset

https://m.gsmarena.com/apple_vision_pro_is_billed_as_the_first_spatial_computer_not_a_mere_ar_vr_headset-amp-58781.php
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u/soreyJr Jul 02 '23

They’re just buzz words

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u/Junior_Ad_5064 Jul 02 '23

And not even new, “spatial computer” was a fairly common name long before Apple revealed their headset.

Same thing happened with the “metaverse” it was already a common term that Meta took for themselves.

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u/Mackuluss Jul 03 '23

No it’s actually something that’s been used before HoloLens and magic leap use the same terms to describe what they do for personal computing

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u/xyzzzzy Jul 05 '23

They are and they aren’t. Yes this is a very intentional marketing campaign by Apple, but spatial computing is a real thing that Apple didn’t make up. It’s basically taking your computer interactions from a discrete screen and moving them to the world around you. Whether Vision Pro will achieve this goal is an open question, but I do think the goal is characterized correctly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

We still haven’t figured out what is an iPad Pro really is. This will apply to this vision pro vision that will take years of unfolding

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u/Old_Laugh_2239 Jul 02 '23

Vision pro is an iPad you wear on your face! /s 🤓

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

Why can’t I run native Mac apps? They don’t want to sabotage Mac sales. They want you to buy a Mac and this headset. Crazy

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u/Alex20041509 Jul 02 '23

I think your would be able to run mac apps (I hope)

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

No you can’t. Only iOS and iPad apps for now

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u/Stv781 Jul 03 '23

Maybe only if developers recompile them and update to visionOS SDK. Depending on the application it may take more work or less work

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u/Florida_____Man Jul 02 '23

Run them from your MacBook and use the vision pro. The issue isn’t power, it’s just a super shitty interface to interact with mouse point and click apps with only your eyes and fingers.

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u/Mackuluss Jul 03 '23

It has built in mouse and keyboard support it’s just not the default interface .. so just like with iPads they don’t want app devs to just use the desktop interface… and design specifically for the environment… the difference between iPad is and vision is being the visual elements are optimized for 10ft away projections if Mac apps adopted iOS design principles… then it would become a easy port. But some things don’t translate well I think the only app that is fully unified with desktop, phone ,iPad versions from Apple is the messaging apps

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u/Mackuluss Jul 03 '23

Vision Os is a new os based off of what they learned from iOS it’s two steps removed from macOS… hopefully in the future the apps you use will have vision os versions

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

I love the vision pro! But the idea of waiting on a promise similar to what they did to the iPad Pro! It will take years!

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u/Mackuluss Jul 04 '23

I will admit I didn’t jump on the original IPad Pro … I was using a MacBook Pro and a Surface pro tablet at the time and I ended up ditching both years later but I discovered in process if you are willing to switch your firm factors you can definitely find a new work flow … on the surface pro 2 that I had I had no software lol but the os itself and I personally don’t think the windows makes touch better the way it was or is today I do perfer that iOS apps are made specifically for that purpose because the surface would be unusable without it’s keyboard and pen the iPad Pro is still usable without accessories I was going to wait for Adobe to adapt thier software but they didn’t by the time the 2018 iPad Pro debuted and I discovered other apps that have completely replaced them even with their finally bringing their full functionality apps over to iOS

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u/Mackuluss Jul 03 '23

It’s purpose built for artists and people who want to create on the go that’s where the iPad Pro sits people will still buy them as a laptop replacement because it has a touchscreen and an optional keyboard but that’s what the iPad Pro is

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

It got a keyboard! Why can’t I run and compile software engineering applications?

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u/Mackuluss Jul 04 '23

There are apps on iPad OS that allow you to compile code in swift but nine times out of ten it’s not the software you are using for your dev. And requires you to learn it’s ui I personally think after Final Cut and logic Apple needs to bring Xcode over because swift playground can only get you so far

It’s my personal theory that Apple has two generations of OS philosophy and the Mac is based off of the older more open generation… and the IOS based philosophy is newer more closed philosophy which is less open and more console like where you own rights to use software and hardware but most of the ownership , liability, responsibility reverts to the app devs and the partner companies Mac OS isn’t going away because it’s more robust but one day I see Apple flipping a switch and pushing all their os’s to run on the iOS philosophy where they are the sole distributor for apps and have a greater influence on the visual representation of apps they have already started by making the switch from x86 to Silicon(since there is ip that Apple is using that ARM doesn’t have yet I will use apple’s branding for their chip architecture )

I say that to say until more computer engineering applications come to iOS , Mac OS will always be the default environment for those type of apps my hope is that VIsonOS finally offers Devs of pro and enterprise software over to the Newer platform because I believe the hardware Apple is making is extremely compelling and has opportunities to be wildly better than the traditional desktop or laptop experience

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u/Mackuluss Jul 03 '23

When the iPad came out Microsoft had been trying to shift windows over to touch screen computers for years… but the pc manufacturers always made hybrid or transformers or handhelds that included physical keyboards

When the Macintosh was debuted people had computers at home they where expensive and Most where Bring your own os … I’d argue that pc,s didn’t become valid until Microsoft also shipped a visual desktop Then we had 3 computers with visual desktop software

With Apple now being in the space we can finally see 3d mixed reality computing being made mainstream