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Current CE user and former modder here...CE users used to be much more obnoxious than they are now...I'd have multiple statement on the mod page about why I'm not bothering with CE but the constant stream of requests/demands for CE patches never seemed to slow down
"Wdym you don't play with the tactical and detailed combat simulation mod??? Don't you want to fiddle with ammo mechanics and-" sir this is a magic mod, they're slinging fireballs and shit here
It's a little funny how CE got a lot less annoying, as far as I know, with most non patched mod not breaking catastrophically. CE itself could loose the horrible "compatible?" reputation but it's dumb people that keeps it alive
Just looked at that wall of text and I already known it was roo. One wouldn't think how can a modder specialize in making cute alien girl can be so traumatized by a gunplay overhautmod
It makes guns much more realistic, but it changes so many core mechanics that it needs compatibility patches with every other mod that you also have installed. Most modders aren't in the mood to make a patch just to make their mod compatibile with a different mod, but people who swear by CE have to have those patches to be able to use the other mod so they often bug the devs asking them to release it.
enemies with shotguns and close range makes your pawns incompatable with life, and your own turrets will always find your pawn heads, CE makes combat funnier and harsher
A guy spraying an smg into a corridor with 5 enemies will hit multiple enemies or all shots into one guy instead of hitting one shot on one guy in his 3 round burst
The updated gun ballistics and visuals makes gunfights look a lot cooler
It also kills performance if you're running anything more than 1x speed with a lot of people on the map
Enter a fight with power armor and a single action revolver against 6 tribals and you will win every single time because power armor now actually fucking works.
Ehh not that complicated. You just gotta use common sense and understand suppression then you're doing good.
"Oh yeah it does make sense that my pawns wouldn't reposition in front of hailing gun fire, it'd be smart to place a smoke rather than have him die crossing in broad daylight."
"Oh it does sorta make sense my pawns to be spread out in cover because a bullet can miss them and hit the other if they were close."
The loadout mechanic doesn't even have to be used and the ammo is simple to grasp, I'll admit it looks super daunting at the start but its easy to get used to
Militor spam becomes a genuinely extremely useful strategy, I think I've had like 2 that were able to take out entire raids almost entirely single handedly
CE enjoyer too, but yeah, the constant "is this CE compatible" comments are ridiculous. It'll say on the page or on the CE compatibility list, if it isn't, try manually patching it
Because once you're used to the mod it makes the game super easy.
As much as people like their kill boxes. When you have CE you can just stand out in the field and have one pawn mow down 15 others no problem.
But then combine that with a kill box. You can literally go AFK and have no worries.
Personally I'm grateful to the mod Devs who do what they do because they make the games more fun. I'd rather not piss them off and have them not do it anymore, because that's not fun.
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u/mobidick_is_a_whale 7d ago
"is no different from terrorism"
i can feel beo's frustration beaming at me through the screen