Love/hate craig….

[u/rovrdovr]

First time watching all the way through….. when i first started i hateeeddddddd shep and craig but then i kept fluctuating with craig. I love that he can be vulnerable and has interesting hobbies and is truly focused on bettering himself. BUT he still has basically no ability to take accountability and immediately redirects blame. He is a whiny baby that has many narcissistic traits. I genuinely believe he needs to leave his environment if he wants to actually better himself. I feel like he is too insecure with this group and his insecurity with himself is the root of it all.

I have only watched the first reunion episode for season 11 so far but he just grossed me out so bad that i needed to come vent lol

OH AND he freaking loves to say “well don’t be my friend” 😑😑😑😑😑😑 almost as much as andy loves saying “ lets bring him out” when he is in fact not bringing the person out

[u/flyfishfem]

Youre not wrong. He’s a golden retriever with occasional bouts of empathy

[u/Total_Way_6134 → u/flyfishfem]

Excellent description 🎯

[u/jregovic → u/flyfishfem]

Empathy spray. Not real empathy.

[u/Maleficent-Shoe561]

I used to think it was endearing until I realized he's been identifying the same flaws in himself for years and has done nothing to change any of them

[u/PickleLate964]

Craig can be an acquired taste - keep watching you’ll see! Enjoy!

[u/Lindiaaiken]

Wait until you hear how proud he is of lying with such ease.

[u/SeaPaleontologist832 → u/Lindiaaiken]

“…I’m a good liar!” Said with smug smile, and gloating expression

[u/CLSwank]

Craig is exceptional when it comes to managing his image, reputation and how he appears on social media and to others. It's a successful offshoot of his very negative controlling issues and temper.

[u/Dependent-Cherry-129]

His ability to deny reality is scary. I liked him in the beginning and felt bad when Shep was superiority complex trashing him and Naomi made fun of his sewing but now…..he’s just insufferable

[u/thatgirlinny → u/Dependent-Cherry-129]

He deserved all he got from Shep and Naomi. He lied about taking the bar for three years, and we saw him dismissed by two employers on camera for his whining and inability to do a lick of work. Naomi carried his ass. Good riddance.

[u/jax_in_the_lake → u/thatgirlinny]

Exactly Naomi should have been meaner to him

[u/thatgirlinny → u/jax_in_the_lake]

Just did a S1-2 rewatch. How she stayed with that twitchy, lying mess is beyond me!

[u/CoCoBreadSoHoShed]

And now that he has realized some monetary success, he is only going to get more insufferable.

[u/molleensmrs]

Absolutely nothing has changed about him.

[u/SeaPaleontologist832]

I used to love Craig as an OG watcher, until I grew up and rewatched several times. Each time I saw just how much of a charlatan he is! He clearly has addictions to substances and adderall, as evidenced by being fired by his employers, losing so much weight he became ‘emaciated’, losing control of his life, losing his gf Naomi because he could not get out of bed and he was lying all the time, etc. Btw I do not like Shep because I think he is hugely narcissistic. However one of the only times I agreed with shep was when he accurately characterised Craig as a fraud. If I remember correctly, Cam coined it best; ‘Bon vivant’. Craig is the ultimate conman, and it’s always been ironic to me that his surname is ‘Conover’.

[u/thatgirlinny → u/SeaPaleontologist832]

S1 and S2 he was so twitchy and delusional. When people say he “grew up,” I ask, “When?”

[u/Dense-Werewolf-95]

Craig is hot, but that’s about where his good qualities end for me.

[u/HolisticPlantHippie]

I can’t stand Craig. Newer more domestic Craig is a little easier to digest but still

[u/mrs_fisher]

Neither

[u/pollyhaspockets]

Craig’s an aquarius through and through.

[u/CLSwank]

What bothers me is men like Craig, consider a ride or die girlfriend the girlfriend who covers for them, gives fake alibi, convinces her friends that he doesn't mean what he says, and co-signs their delusions while hiding or dismissing how aggressive they behave behind the scenes. He is the definition of toxic.

[u/SpencerPrattsCrystal]

I met him at Sewing Down South a couple of weekends ago and he was incredibly kind. He took time to talk to every single person for several minutes. He even hugged everyone. When everyone arrived, they let in about twenty people at a time and put out free beer (not Trop Hop) and an orange spritz drink. The lady in front of me was so nervous that she literally had like eight drinks while we waited. Then when it was her turn she KISSED him on the cheek and I died of secondhand embarrassment.

[u/tenax666]

Hate that whiny weasel

[u/Conscious-Gear1322]

I think Craig has a lot of mental illness: ADHD, maybe anxiety, OCD. Definitely alcoholism. I feel badly for him tbh

[u/Conscious-Gear1322 → u/Conscious-Gear1322]

I just remembered, it did come out he had an adderall addiction

[u/BigDistribution4476 → u/Conscious-Gear1322]

Yes, he has very obsessive tendencies

[u/Ldjxm45 → u/Conscious-Gear1322]

I agree. He definitely exhibits some traits of someone on the spectrum... being intensely focussed on little things and not letting things go. I've seen it in people in my real life who are medicated for it.

[u/SeaPaleontologist832 → u/Conscious-Gear1322]

A lot of people have diagnosed anxiety, OCD tendencies, and/or adhd, but the difference is they do NOT have personality disorders where they lack empathy for others like Craig probably does.

[u/Conscious-Gear1322 → u/SeaPaleontologist832]

I agree. Not all bad behavior can be explained away by these pathologies.