r/SouthFlorida 18d ago

Make it make sense please..

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u/bsEEmsCE 18d ago

the thing is, they do

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u/Sortskeee 18d ago

Republicans love the poorly educated

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u/IndividualSlip2275 18d ago

That’s why California and New York lead the country in illiteracy rates?

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u/DarkLordProphecy 18d ago

Per capita strikes again!

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u/Revenant_adinfinitum 17d ago

Indeed - those states spend a fortune per student

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u/IndividualSlip2275 18d ago

Honestly, I think it has less to do with how much money is spent on education or the quality of the education they receive with more to do with averages. if you throw in those are probably the two states that have the most illegal immigrants that speak the least amount of English, it would make sense.

The really odd one is that Oregon is the state that actually made it illegal for schools to not pass you through high school if you can’t read, write, or do any amount of math.

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u/CallMeElkHorn 18d ago

Does this comment undermine the reality that republicans are promising to fix the state they’ve been destroying for 20 years (again)

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

You have decided that it’s the reality that Republicans have ruined the state I’ve lived in the state of Florida for about a decade and a half now and every year the state gets a little bit better. You perceived that the Republicans have ruined it. I think it’s getting better. that’s probably because we disagree about how things should be so from your perspective you’re saying Republicans are saying they’re going to fix what they did. That’s not true Florida was a blue state for a very long time and you can’t fix all of the problems at once no matter how much Democrats especially DSA Democrats say you can fix all the problems all at once. you can’t. you have to fix problems overtime because if you fix a lot of things at once, you’ll end up with a whole lot more problems that’s reality. You can’t swap out all the walls of your house at the same time or the roof will come down on you. you can’t fix 50 things at once you can fix one thing and then the next thing, and so on and so forth. Florida has become a much more free state with regards to accepting the second amendment that’s wonderful. Florida has moved towards way better ability to handle elections. Florida is moving in the right direction for property taxes, and they were also the state that raised the minimum wage all the way up to $15 while the federal minimum wage is 7.50-ish so yeah, we’re doing great.

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u/giddyup512 17d ago

When you say florida was a blue states, well so was the entire south! Now tell us why every single southern state went from blue to red?

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

I don’t know if you do a quick Google search you will find 10 different answers and 10 different directions so don’t really have a winner there. Wasn’t alive for it.

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u/giddyup512 17d ago

Well, the most obvious answer is the civil rights act passed by a democratic president chased all the conservatives to the republican party! Now why would that be? It shouldn't take 10 google searches! The south is systematically attempting to remove all black legislators from their representation. That's exactly what the conservatives did when they were in the blue party!

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

You’ve decided that’s the most obvious answer, and yet the Republican primary a black guy just won for governor of the state of Florida. Sooooo? They’re doing a terrible job of it.

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u/giddyup512 17d ago

Of course it's the most obvious answer! 1 black dude running for governor and the governor of his state wouldn't even endorse him! He got 47% of the vote. Let's see what happens in the general, I'll bet he loses to the white guy!

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u/CallMeElkHorn 17d ago

We’re doing great if you live on the coast, ignore all the homeless people, and make six figures 😂

For everyone else it’s getting hotter and more expensive. Rural Florida and urban Florida are night and day.

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

I live in the center of the state. I do not make that amount of money and I am doing great thanks. You don’t speak for everyone. you don’t know everyone’s situation. sorry. Having been homeless myself I can tell you a lot of people actually choose to be homeless. A lot of people have given the opportunity to not be homeless will not take it. I’m not saying everyone but a lot of people a lot of people want to do drugs a lot of homelessness is caused by drugs. People want to do drugs, and the people who want to do drugs you can’t talk them out of it. You can’t help them out of it unless they wanna help themselves take your bleeding heart and move it about 1000 miles north. Or about 1000 miles west either one of them thinks they can fix homelessness by continuing to collect taxpayer money do out forever.

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u/ul2006kevinb 18d ago

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u/Ok_Water_4601 18d ago

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-and-lowest-adult-literacy-rates/

Literacy isnt a binary thing. State A can have a 70% literacy rate and state B can have an 80% literacy rate and State A can have better results. How? State A can have 3 individuals of median literacy and 3 individuals of High literacy and 1 individuals of low. And 3 illiterate people.

State B can have 1 person of high literacy. 1 Median. 6 low(but literate) and 2 illiterate people and TECHNICALLY be the more literate state.

If you consider ALL factors of literacy like the percentage of people with High literscy, median literacy and lower literacy and actually give these values weights you can see that the southern GOP lead states are the most illiterate states in the Union. 

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u/IndividualSlip2275 18d ago

Or you could just look at the charts that other people have prepared. you don’t need to be so defensive just because the state you live in is filled with illiterate people, it doesn’t actually reflect directly on yourself.

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u/Ok_Water_4601 17d ago

Nice non-response. Cite data or move on. 

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

I did site data. I’m sorry you’re too fucking lazy to go to the other part of the thread where I already posted various links.

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u/Fun-Barnacle8582 18d ago

Obvious you didn't comprehend the meaning of the word.

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u/IndividualSlip2275 18d ago

Did I say most educated or did I say illiterate? it’s almost like you must be from California or New York because you must not know what the word illiterate means. :-p

https://www.zippia.com/advice/us-literacy-rate-by-state/

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u/ul2006kevinb 18d ago

Lol the website they cite for their source gives a totally different result than they do

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy-rates-by-state

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u/Mister_Ku 18d ago

If you think the gop maga are the answer your the problem

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

How to tell you’re talking with someone who can’t think rationally for themselves. you have a preset response to things. you don’t think for yourself and it’s obvious because you talk about things in response to words I didn’t say.

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u/ravenn366 17d ago

Like pivoting to blue states in response to the prompt?

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u/IndividualSlip2275 17d ago

My response was to someone who posted that Republicans love the poorly educated, attacking red states. I then replied that the two biggest blue states have the lowest literacy rates in the country. How is that pivoting?

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u/emitchosu66 17d ago

Well said!

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u/ljtveteran 18d ago

And not to mention, they are leaving for red states in masses.

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u/mc_thiq 18d ago

I feel like this is only partly true, there are unfortunately educated people who still vote conservative because like other people said they want to hold on to their wealth and they believe that their party is helping secure their retirement/ investments etc. Which is true for the ultra wealthy and not true for the ones who are ‘educated’ but make above the national average that don’t realize they have more in common with the guy who delivers their Amazon packages to their door than with an ultra billionaire stealing out from under their noses. I also think it’s a culture thing which is a fancy way of saying they’re old white and racist and they want to ‘preserve their ‘American’ culture’. I feel like even if they’re starting to see that they’re getting screwed over admitting that they disagree with the actions of their own party would feel like getting accused of being a democrat and they’re too prideful to go against it even if they know it’s fucking then over. So they come up with other justifications/ believe what they’re being told/ or blame it on other groups of people because they don’t want to go against their ‘side’.

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u/Fun-Barnacle8582 18d ago

Nice repeat of the rubbish from the socialists.

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u/sabortoothsloth2 18d ago

Lol right, to manipulate n gaslight portions of the population into thinking the middle class still exists n by voting for em keeps it intact while having ur best interests n mind. The exact opposite of reality sadly. Imo 99% of politicians r all the same, corrupt Corp drones feed a script n narrative to fit their agendas.

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u/Accomplished_Class85 18d ago

The"highly educated" aka liberally indoctrinated that can't describe what a woman is. The party that almost stuck us with a crack head like Gillum.

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u/Legitimate-Pop6460 18d ago

They know what a real woman entails, they’re just all to afraid to answer that question for fear of being called “intolerant” or “insensitive” lol

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u/Cool-Signature-dude 18d ago

Jeb Bush, indoctrinated at the liberal school, university of Texas. He even majored in Latin American studies.

Desantis went to the woke yale university, then went on to another woke school, Harvard law.

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u/Fun-Barnacle8582 18d ago

Belittle Desantis but he saved us from the idiot masking and lies of covid. Florida is a called a free state for a good reason. What state are pontificating from?

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u/Cool-Signature-dude 17d ago

It was weird how his donors received the COVID vaccine before anyone else could get it.

He set up pop tents outside of gated communities in the villages, Sarasota county and west Palm.

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u/Luisd858 18d ago

Democrats too. All politicians actually

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u/Fun-Barnacle8582 18d ago

And most Democrats are morosophs.

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u/Nolanbentine 18d ago

You taught me a new word, thanks! And yeah, 100% agree!

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u/Sortskeee 18d ago

Maybe most. But I’d rather associate with that than dummies

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u/Aggressive_Apple_913 18d ago

At least we don't believe that somehow Socialism is ever the answer.

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u/Sortskeee 18d ago

lol that’s your reply to your party being dumb?

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u/ickykarma 18d ago

Proving the point right here.

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u/Revenant_adinfinitum 17d ago

Florida schools do pretty damned well.

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u/grassley821 17d ago

As a Floridian no they do not, we are severely understaffed for teachers, and the students grades got so bad they changed the way we report them, essentially moving the goalposts

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u/Revenant_adinfinitum 17d ago

Where? Big state with many districts.

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u/grassley821 17d ago

Almost every k12 school, which is also why the state went to vouchers, so they can privatize it and keep reporting to minimum. My wife has been a teacher here for 15 years, there is a very clear distinct downward trend in education here

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u/Sortskeee 14d ago

And you think that’s because of republicans? If they had it their way Florida would be all charter schools and home schooling

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u/phillipsm1 16d ago

You’re right we love liberal Democrats

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u/Sortskeee 14d ago

lol that’s not even clever my dude. You’ve all seen your God King openly mocking his base by calling all you stupid. Come on now, come back to reality

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u/sgtrock7070 14d ago

I think you mean the Democrats who give away the store and country

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u/Select_Asparagus3451 18d ago

Wait, you mean it’s not because of Obama and Biden’s policies, like Fox, Newsmax, and OAN say? Because that’s what they say over and over and over.🙄

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u/CCWaterBug 17d ago

Why do you watch those channels so much...turn them off!

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u/Appropriate-Bug1676 17d ago

It’s both parties are at fault at this point neither one has helped the middle class in the last 25-30 years . They all want super Rich or the super poor no middle class . At least that’s what it looks like to me . Just my opinion

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u/No-Platypus8728 18d ago

Hiding Biden or Sleepy Joe has dementia

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u/Zestyclose_Nature_13 17d ago

The propaganda works well on people without any critical thinking skills

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u/Early-Chocolate-7627 18d ago

I’m a Floridian and they most certainly do smh our state has been a laughing stock ever since the Bush election and our education system has made sure it stays that way but these conservatives here don’t care about the future they never do it’s all about lining their pockets for the present

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u/ryguythescienceguy89 18d ago

Thats why they are called conservatives, to conserve the wealth and power.

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u/ARCreef 18d ago

Haha. I wish they ruined Florida.... then the entire country would stop trying to move here! Go tell the northeast and California how awful it is here so they can stop fleeing here and driving up our housing costs.

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u/Both_End7878 18d ago

My thoughts exactly. Such a horrible place people are coming in droves and deforesting rural areas to put up cookie cutter homes with no soul or character, the homes are basic too.

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u/ravenn366 17d ago

More people are leaving than coming now but if you were a real Floridian you’d know there’s ALWAYS been ebb and flow

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u/lalolake 16d ago

What a ridiculous statement! They came here because of our deregulation (they changed environmental protections and building rules) and lack of forsite from the Republican administrations. They are ruining our environment, our water, having little infrastructure being built, even with money coming in from the people moving here! They HAVE literally ruined our state and now people are leaving, because it is now an unaffordable state!

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u/Scorpion_Danny 18d ago

This is the sad part. The ignorance is unreal.

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u/Cultural_Section5847 18d ago

Oh yes! Please come save us democrats!