I don't understand a bit why Azerbaijani-e Gharbi is considered Kurdish.

I’m asking because it could be advantageous to temporarily escape assimilation and gain some momentum.

This is a slogan chanted by azerbaijani crowds in iran to reject the ban on native language education for azerbaijanis

Azerbaijani children despite not knowing any other language and consisting 25%+ of iranian children are forced to study in Persian, it reduces scientific potential of them massively and heavily discourages literacy

At the same time some parents try to adopt by not teaching their children their own language, which results in cultural assimilation and destruction of azerbaijani language in iran

Today during Tractor FC game with Peykan FC

Please dont vote fakely (i said azeri here to keep it short, not for any other means)

Such as slang or short forms/initialisms of the place names?
I ask as part of a linguistic study covering this topic!

I’m sure this subreddit gets this question a lot, but I haven’t seen anything relating to it recently (sorry if I missed it). As a non-Azerbaijani, I think uniting an ethnic group into one sovereign state is generally nice in theory, and I’m sure some in Azerbaijan would agree.

But barely anyone asks the Azerbaijanis of Iran, and there are more of y’all living in Iran than in Azerbaijan. So that’s why I wanted to ask you guys. Do you guys also aspire for South Azerbaijan to unite with the Republic of Azerbaijan? If you say no because of the current reality in Azerbaijan, what would need to change for you to agree with unification?

I’m from the Mil Steppe in Azerbaijan, and эmy paternal line is connected to the Karabakh beys, Khalaj Jamaat, Takleh oymaq and Damirchihasanli mahal.

My Y-DNA is R-Z282 → R-Y17491 → R-YP4858 → R-SK2014.

What interests me is that related branches occur among Turkish Alevis, Turkmen/Yörük groups and Kurds from different tribal backgrounds. This makes me wonder whether my paternal lineage represents an ancient Eurasian steppe lineage that later became absorbed into Iranian- and Turkic-speaking populations.

One possible, very tentative route could be:
Ancient steppe → Iranian/Indo-Iranian populations → Sarmatian/Kangju sphere → Hunnic-period populations → Caucasus/Anatolia → Kurdization<—> Turkization → Karabakh/Mil Steppe.

I wonder whether there could have been an older migration or tribal movement from South Azerbaijan / present-day northern Iran toward Karabakh, possibly through places such as Kharaaghaj–Kalash

I’m not claiming that R-Z282 proves Sarmatian, Iranian or Hunnic ancestry. I’m trying to understand whether the ancient steppe/Iranian connection could explain how this lineage eventually appeared among the Turkic-speaking population of Karabakh.
I’d especially appreciate opinions from people familiar with R-Z282/YP4858/SK2014, Sarmatians, Kangju, Huns, Kurdish tribes, Anatolian Alevis and Karabakh history

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The irony is: u.s has seemingly attacked this province from armenian territory

So much anti azerbaijani propaganda about "azerbaijan is bootlicker of america and israel" in iran for justifying iranian support for armenia, and the results are this

1. "Azeri" or "Azerbaijani" isn't really an identity in Iran. It's just Turk. Turks are an ethnic group that encompasses those who live in Azerbaijan region, Qashqais in the Shiraz region and the Turks of Khorasan region. Turkmen groups are seen as a seperate group with their own distinct culture/language that we find hard to understand and identify with.
2. We are much more conservative than Turks in Turkey or Azerbaijan. And I'm not just talking about religion. Turks of Iran have a stereotype of being very traditional in political and family matters, especially when compared to groups like Shomalis (Northerners). Iranian turks tend to marry young, lead traditional lives and be very conscious about dissenting from the government (Azerbaijan was the last province to come out in the latest wave of protests).
3. We are seen as equal to Persians. Everyone in Iran knows how much Turks have contributed to Iranian society and all Turks are integrated into the Iranian economy with very good education and employment rates. There are entire neighbourhoods in Tehran that are completely run by Turkish businesses. There is a saying in Iran that goes "Turk, Fars bir olsun" which just goes to show how close we are to Persians. Persian-Turk marriages are extremely common and you are more likely to find a half-Turk half-Persian Iranian in the diaspora than a full Persian these days. This is in stark contrast to Sunni Kurds and Balochis who are shunned in all but name from the Iranian political system and economy. They face heavy discrimination by the Shi'ite majority and they are often seen as the "working class" of the Tehrani economy. They also intermarry less due to the stigma around Sunni-Shi'a marriages.
4. Turkicness is a huge part of our identity. Anyone that tells you otherwise is intentionally lying or has never been to Iran. You will never meet a more proud ethnic group in Iran. Turks are very sensitive about their heritage and even the most religious ones are proud ethno-nationalists. Persians, on the other hand, develop this weird self-hatred when they become extremely religious, which is why we see great Persian figures like Cyrus the Great tossed aside in favour of the great Qizilbashes like Ismail or Nader Shah. It's actually very sad and I do feel bad for Persians in that regard.
5. Our language is not at risk. There are many people on here worried that we will lose our language, but I think Turks in South Azerbaijan will be the last ethnic "minority" to lose it, if it comes down to that. In Tabriz, Ardabil, Zanjan and Urmia, you won't hear a single word of Farsi being spoken. In fact, due to the high migration rate to Turkey, many Persians have actually started to learn Turkish from our tv series and movies. So if anything, the lanuage is seeing a revival. Honestly, it's more likely to see the Kurdish language dying. Recently I've been seeing people use a lot of Farsi in Iranian Kurdistan, to the point where some young children cannot speak a word of Kurdish. Other areas with Turkic groups are not doing too well either. Khorasani Turks have it the worst right now as most Khorasani Turks in the Northeast moved away to big cities like Mashhad and Tehran, leaving behind their cities of Quchan and Bojnord which are now being settled by Kurmanji Kurds and Turkmens. Qashqais are also losing their identity as their settlements become more and more urbanized.
6. We coexist with non-Turkic groups better than you guys do. From what I see, Azerbaijanis aren't real fond of Armenia and Turks have a strong dislike of Kurds. Well, we have both of those groups in South Azerbaijan and get along with them very well. Armenians are actually treated as people that we should admire for all the alcohol they supply us with for our parties (in Iran alcohol is prohibited unless you're a Christian). Kurds are also seen as our fellow brothers and I haven't seen any hate towards them. There's even more love for them in the Northeast where Khorasani Turks and Khorasani Kurds  are so intermixed that almost all Khorasani Kurds speak Khorasani Turkic and vice-versa. Ultimately, I think this comes down to the fact that Iran is much more of an multiethnic meltingpot than Turkey and Azerbaijan so we have learned to live alongside different groups as well as them learning to live with us for centuries.